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Old June 23rd, 2016, 11:00 PM   #2601
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I figure the 15 77W's are temporary until they get replaced by 15 777-9's in the future.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 02:38 AM   #2602
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Perhaps. Given that Iran Is opening up once more to the world, I now wonder when it will resume service to the United States, especially it has not done any Transatlantic service for the past 3 decades. And maybe it should expand further in Asia to cater to even more destinations.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #2603
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The British are busy with Brexit, no time to clean their aircraft wings.
Okay guys, I was joking but after yesterday, this has just turned into a dark humor I guess...
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Old June 24th, 2016, 03:08 PM   #2604
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they can buy slots from United maybe to acelerate the delivery..
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Old June 24th, 2016, 05:59 PM   #2605
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Hopefully for Boeing the order won't be constantly delayed by the opponents of these orders (Republicans) so the 777-300ER order can be delivered when the 777-300ER is still in production.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 07:01 PM   #2606
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I cannot see how Iran Air will integrate 200+ Boeing and Airbus new frames anyway, and therefore fly every class of wide and narrow available from both aircraft manufacturers It does not make sense to me.

So I have decided that this Boeing 'order' is tactical BS by Iran designed mainly to smooth US component and subsystem delivery (like the avionics installed in Airbus aircraft) and that either very few or else no new Boeings will ever be delivered to Iran Air. Maybe a few 777s only.

You may call me cynical.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 10:22 PM   #2607
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You got to be a bit cynical, but I think you are a bit too specific right there.

Yes, these orders are placed with something more in mind then just getting those planes. But they won't place a big Boeing order just to get parts for Airbus planes. It's more that both the Airbus and Boeing orders have been placed to put some more pressure on the US and the EU countries to quickly ease all the restrictions. Not just on airplanes but especially for a much broader economic scale. The financing of these orders for example is an issue where the whole economy can benefit if Iran regains access to the international financial market.

So yes, it remains to be seen if all of these orders will actually be taken up. But no, that's not specific for any of the manufacturers where they have placed orders. It's not like they will not be interested to acquire these 2 747-8s that are almost ready to pick up straight away to replace their ancient 747SP.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 02:40 AM   #2608
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It looks like "white tail" Boeing 777-200LRF LN1370 HL8075 was delivered to Korean Air Cargo:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...150Z/KPAE/RKSI


https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/746469523125997569

No idea why they didn't paint her in their regular livery.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 07:48 AM   #2609
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It looks like "white tail" Boeing 777-200LRF LN1370 HL8075 was delivered to Korean Air Cargo:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...150Z/KPAE/RKSI


https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/746469523125997569

No idea why they didn't paint her in their regular livery.

That's because it's not owned by Korean Air. It is owned by FSJ Aircraft leasing and leased to Korean Air on a 5 year dry lease.
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You got to be a bit cynical, but I think you are a bit too specific right there.

Yes, these orders are placed with something more in mind then just getting those planes. But they won't place a big Boeing order just to get parts for Airbus planes. It's more that both the Airbus and Boeing orders have been placed to put some more pressure on the US and the EU countries to quickly ease all the restrictions. Not just on airplanes but especially for a much broader economic scale. The financing of these orders for example is an issue where the whole economy can benefit if Iran regains access to the international financial market.

So yes, it remains to be seen if all of these orders will actually be taken up. But no, that's not specific for any of the manufacturers where they have placed orders. It's not like they will not be interested to acquire these 2 747-8s that are almost ready to pick up straight away to replace their ancient 747SP.
Boeing officials are walking a tight-rope when it comes to the Iran Air order. There are a lot of folks in Washington that would love to see the nuclear deal the UN reached with Iran scuttled....hell, some of them want an outright invasion. With the next US president yet to be elected, no one knows what policy he/she would pursue regarding Iran. That said, Iran would be better off leasing Boeing jets rather than purchasing them outright just in case some maverick politician torpedoes the deal midstream. Getting stuck with relatively new aircraft sans spare parts is an airline CEO's nightmare.

As far as financing is concerned, Iran has one of the biggest known global oil reserves in the world and that's collateral enough to secure financial backing in the market. Problem is, should the signed nuclear deal get pulled off the table and sanctions reinstated, Iran wouldn't be in a position to repay its creditors. In my opinion, the Boeing deal will probably not be firmed up for another year or two, at the earliest.
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Old June 26th, 2016, 06:24 AM   #2611
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Hi-Res copy of HL8075 Korean Air Cargo (FSJ) LN1370 - Delivery departure

HL8075 Korean Air (FSJ) Boeing 777-FEZ - C/N 62631 / LN 1370 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
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The Museum of Flight will be hosting Boeing's 100th Birthday party on July 15th. They will be bringing in a model of every airliner, plus military displays. The aircraft will be staged on the taxi ways and open to the public.

Aircraft tentatively attending are:
Omega Tanker - 707
MoF Air Force 1 - 707
Delta - 717
American & United (N7001U) - 727
Alaska Airlines (100 Year Special) - 737
Boeing - 737-8 Max
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United - 757
Fedex - 767
Emirates - 777
All Nippon Airways - 787

Plus all sorts of historical military aircraft, both static and flying.
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Boeing Co. is proposing to stretch its largest 777 model to create a twin-engine behemoth aimed at delivering a knock-out blow to Airbus Group SE’s struggling A380 superjumbo jet, said people familiar with its plans.
The U.S. planemaker has approached several carriers about the plane it calls the 777-10X, including Emirates Airline, the world’s largest operator of both Boeing’s 777 and Airbus’s double-decker aircraft, said the people, who asked not to be identified because talks are private.
The proposed model would carry about 450 travelers, sharpening its rivalry with the A380, two of the people said. To do so, Boeing would stretch the frame of its 777-9 to squeeze in about four extra rows of seats. The -9, whose debut is slated for decade’s end, will be the first twin-engine model to encroach on jumbo territory by hauling more than 400 passengers.
“We are always evaluating technologies, airplane configurations and market needs,” said Doug Alder, a Boeing spokesman. “While no decisions have been made, we will continue to study 777X derivatives and seek customer input to develop products that provide the most value for customers.”
An Emirates representative couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 12:11 PM   #2614
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Boeing Co. is proposing to stretch its largest 777 model to create a twin-engine behemoth aimed at delivering a knock-out blow to Airbus Group SE’s struggling A380 superjumbo jet, said people familiar with its plans.
The U.S. planemaker has approached several carriers about the plane it calls the 777-10X, including Emirates Airline, the world’s largest operator of both Boeing’s 777 and Airbus’s double-decker aircraft, said the people, who asked not to be identified because talks are private.
The proposed model would carry about 450 travelers, sharpening its rivalry with the A380, two of the people said. To do so, Boeing would stretch the frame of its 777-9 to squeeze in about four extra rows of seats. The -9, whose debut is slated for decade’s end, will be the first twin-engine model to encroach on jumbo territory by hauling more than 400 passengers.
“We are always evaluating technologies, airplane configurations and market needs,” said Doug Alder, a Boeing spokesman. “While no decisions have been made, we will continue to study 777X derivatives and seek customer input to develop products that provide the most value for customers.”
An Emirates representative couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.
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now this, I can't wait to see! I really hope this project is implemented
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Old June 30th, 2016, 06:21 PM   #2615
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A 777-10X would be a HUGE aircraft.
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If they are going to make this 777-10X that will also be a "knock-out" to their very own 747-8I
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The 777-10X proposal is for an 80 meter long aircraft, which would be the longest airliner. Six 21-inch frames would be added relative to the 777-9X. The pair of Type III doors on the 777-9X would be changed to a pair of Type A doors so the maximum permitted seating would change from 475 to 550.
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777 Deliveries today.

A6-EPN Emirates Boeing 777-31H(ER) - C/N 42333 / LN 1408 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

B-16727 EVA Airways Boeing 777-35E(ER) - C/N 43291 / LN 1412 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

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Boeing selects iPad-like touch screens for 777X flightdeck

01 JULY, 2016 BY: STEPHEN TRIMBLE SEATTLE

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Boeing has decided to integrate a multi-touch interface on the flight deck of the re-engined widebody due to enter service in 2020, replacing a touch-pad based cursor control device (CCDs) mounted on the aisle-stand of the original 777, says Bob Feldmann, vice-president and general manager of the 777X programme.

The decision was made so recently that Boeing is not yet able to announce the supplier, as the contract had not been signed as of mid-June, Feldmann says.

The new technology will be integrated as Boeing transitions from a standard layout of six displays in the 777 cockpit to the 787’s five-display format in the 777X.

“We think we’re the first [commercial] airplane to really make something that is like all our customers are used to doing in their daily lives,” Feldmann says.

In the past, Boeing has proposed a touch-screen display as an upgrade for the US Navy’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, but not for commercial airliners despite their growing appeal.

Multi-touch interfaces have been popularised in consumer electronics for several years, allowing users to use their fingers to make commands, as well as pinch-to-zoom or use other gesture-based features. Airline pilots have access to tablet-based electronic flight bags with touch screens, but the navigation and flight information displays in even the newest and most modern aircraft types are still controlled using CCDs or bevel switches.

In discussions with the 777X customers, Boeing received a clear preference for making the transition to multi-touch screens, Feldmann says.
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Boeing Co. is proposing to stretch its largest 777 model to create a twin-engine behemoth aimed at delivering a knock-out blow to Airbus Group SE’s struggling A380 superjumbo jet, said people familiar with its plans.
The U.S. planemaker has approached several carriers about the plane it calls the 777-10X, including Emirates Airline, the world’s largest operator of both Boeing’s 777 and Airbus’s double-decker aircraft, said the people, who asked not to be identified because talks are private.
The proposed model would carry about 450 travelers, sharpening its rivalry with the A380, two of the people said. To do so, Boeing would stretch the frame of its 777-9 to squeeze in about four extra rows of seats. The -9, whose debut is slated for decade’s end, will be the first twin-engine model to encroach on jumbo territory by hauling more than 400 passengers.
“We are always evaluating technologies, airplane configurations and market needs,” said Doug Alder, a Boeing spokesman. “While no decisions have been made, we will continue to study 777X derivatives and seek customer input to develop products that provide the most value for customers.”
An Emirates representative couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...irbus-a380-jet
This new proposed Boeing 777-10X could be large enough that gates built originally to cater to the Airbus A380 could be used for this plane as well. So they won't go to waste after all once the A380 meets its final demise.
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