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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #381
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Emirates has said more about their upcoming 777X order.


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Emirates Asks Boeing for 777 Successor Specs Before Making Order

Emirates, the biggest operator of the Boeing Co. (BA) 777, is pressing for more information about a successor aircraft before considering an order for the replacement of the U.S. manufacturer’s bestselling airliner.

“We’re working closely to get to specifications we’re happy with,” Emirates President Tim Clark said in an interview in Paris today. “That means layouts, the seats, the galleys, getting the weights right, getting the fuel burn.”

Clark has said he may need as many as 275 777s for replacement and expansion, a requirement so large his airline is likely to become the so-called launch customer of the successor plane. While Emirates is more advanced in talks with Boeing than other carriers, it doesn’t expect to be ready to table an order at the Paris Air Show in June, Clark said.
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There won't be an order in the next few months, but the talks are already beyond the price etc. I think that one of the main reasons why Emirates is talking mainly with Boeing for this order is because the program is still in the development stage. With a possible order for up to 275 777X's they will have a big say in the final specifications of the new version, more so then with the A350-1000 that already has several customers that all have their own wishes for the specifications of the aircraft.

So it very much looks like the 777X will be an Emirates version of the plane and other airlines will have to follow. That will of course push some customers towards Airbus, but with a possible 275 orders Boeing will not be to worried about that. It will also be positive for other airlines since more orders reduces the prices for maintenance and spare parts etc.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:34 PM   #382
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So with the 777X being an Emirates version of the aircraft, what would be its seating capacity specs? Will it have 2-class and 3-class versions, or will it only have a 3-class version to it?
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #383
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The seating specs will be determined by every single airline of course, that will still be flexible.

And if Emirates actually orders 275 of the 777X there will most likely be several versions with different seating specifications, just like there are 6 different versions of the 777-300ER in Emirates fleet. It's also not in the article if Emirates is more interested in the 300ER sized -8X, the bigger -9X, or that they want both versions for different kind of missions.


The impact of the huge Emirates order will far more be seen in the weight, trust, full burn, range specifications. And those will become known over the next couple of months when the project will officially be launched and then when the 1st orders come along. And even then there are still about 6 years to go before the 1st delivery (without delays), there will be changes to the specification in this period.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 10:25 PM   #384
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275 planes! omg. how in the world will emirates be able to pay for it all? Pretty soon they will have nothing but 777s and 380s in their fleet.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #386
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275 planes! omg. how in the world will emirates be able to pay for it all? Pretty soon they will have nothing but 777s and 380s in their fleet.
Of course, they will retire their older planes, gain a little profit, use their oil wealth (since Emirates is controlled by the UAE government with private management), and get brand new 777s. I then wonder if it will retire their A330 and A340 fleet in tandem when the new 777Xs arrive since that would be plentiful of aircraft (275 wide bodies!!!) to fly out of Dubai.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #387
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It would be kind of crazy to think of an a350-900 or 777-200LR being the smallest plane in their fleet going forward
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Old April 18th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #388
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Mind you, though: those two have very good flight ranges (8,000+ miles) that allow once-impossible flights nonstop possible. I wonder though if KLM would get the B77L given that it operates a lot of B777-200ERs and B77Ws...
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Old April 18th, 2013, 08:52 AM   #389
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There's a simple reason why there are no European airlines flying the 77L. It's because there are no destinations that it can reach that can't be reached by 777-200ER or 300R. Australia is to far away for the 77L and the whole of Asia and South America can be reached by by an -ER.

And even if there will be an even longer range 777 or A350 that can reach Australia non stop from Europe it won't be interesting for airlines like KLM, it will only give them 1 or 2 new destinations in a new not that big saturated market that is that is already dominated by just a couple of airlines.


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Their current smallest plane, the A332 is not that much smaller then an A350-900. So it's not that crazy, it's not the only airline that has such a fleet, see Singapore Airlines.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:39 PM   #390
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Yes I am aware of all widebody fleets like Cathay Pacific or Singapore. But an a350-900 is a good bit bigger than an a330-200, its almost exactly the size of a 772 or just a touch bigger than an a333, certainly bigger than 767s, a332s or 787s that form the small end of most widebody fleets.

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Old April 19th, 2013, 02:12 AM   #391
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Momo Id say the rise of the Gulf carriers has made such non-stop flights inconvenient in terms of costs for European airlines.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 08:45 AM   #392
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Indeed, they have stirred up the Europe - Australia market in a big way the last couple of years, making it even harder for any European airline to start direct flights when they become possible. The Gulf carriers will be able to offer better prices and many people don't mind a short stop over on such a long flight.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 11:45 AM   #393
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Virtual Tour For The Garuda Indonesia 777-300ER Cabin

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Old April 20th, 2013, 07:44 PM   #394
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Aeroflot




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Old April 21st, 2013, 04:51 AM   #395
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Hi guys!!!
Ethiopian Airlines currently operates 7 B777 Planes.5 of them B777-200LR and 2 B777 cargos.

ET-ANQ nicknamed 'The Mount Kilimanjaro' taking off from PEK.



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Ethio...3edaa352bdc6c3

ET-ANN nicknamed 'The Blue Nile' ready to take off from YYZ



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Ethio...3edaa352bdc6c3

ET-APS Cargo nicknamed after the underconstruction super dam 'The Renaissance Dam' taking off from HKG



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Old April 21st, 2013, 06:49 AM   #396
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Many more B777 aircraft I've seen lately:

Air Canada B777-200LR (reg. C-FIVK)

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Air China B777-200 (reg. B-2065)

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Air India B777-300ER (reg. VT-ALK)

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British Airways B777-300ER (reg. G-STBC)

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Cathay Pacific B777-300 (reg. B-HNM)

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Cathay Pacific B777-300ER, "Hong Kong: Asia's World City" (reg. B-KPF)

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FedEx B777-200F (reg. N862FD)

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Japan Airlines B777-200ER, "oneworld Signature" (reg. JA708J)

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Korean Air B777-300ER (reg. HL8210)

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United Airlines B777-200ER, "Star Alliance Signature" (reg. N77022)

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Old April 24th, 2013, 05:10 AM   #398
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Ethiopian Airlines Agree To Lease 777-300ER

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Los Angeles based Air Lease Corporation (ALC) says its entered into an agreement with Ethiopian Airlines for lease of 2 777-300ER aircraft.

The aircraft are scheduled for delivery in May and June 2015, on 12-year leases.
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KLM #777-300 prepares for engines to be hung in final position at Everett. 48 days for total manufacturing on moving line which began around 2005. 8.2 per month

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