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Old May 7th, 2013, 08:48 AM   #441
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The 777X that will be longer, have better engines and a bigger but lighter wing will have, as Boeing claims 20% better economics then the 777-300ER.

The 777-8X will be stretch from the 777-200LR, with 10-abreast seating it will have a similar capacity as a 9-abreast 777-300ER but with an even bigger range. The 777-9X will be longer then the 777-300ER, in a typical 3-class layout it will have 50 more seats then the -300ER and the A350-1000, breaking into 747-8I territories.
Hmmm... Looks like aerodynamics continues to advance even further, gaining more traction to an already-lucrative aviation market indeed. If the 777X-8 will have more seating, become a stretched version of the current 77L (or 772 for that matter), and can fly longer than the 77L, then I wonder if that would have the range similar to the A340-500 (only this time, it will be dual engines, not quad). Similarly, with the 777X-9, with 50 more seats than the 77W and can fly even longer, I then ask: what would be the new limits for Boeing's already-successful venture? It's like, going the extra miles to develop even better aircraft with longer ranges to match Airbus... And I wonder if two engines can really fly further now than a quad-engine like the 747-8I.

Indeed, technology is becoming better with aircraft and engine technology. Perhaps soon, a 777 full of passengers could travel between London and Sydney nonstop, an innovation that will indeed bring new meanings to air travel... Or is it?
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Old May 7th, 2013, 10:59 AM   #442
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It's not only aerodynamics, but more efficient engines & less weight which will give the aircraft extra range.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 11:12 AM   #443
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It's not only aerodynamics, but more efficient engines & less weight which will give the aircraft extra range.
I forgot about the lighter weight... But, what kind/s of engines might be used to power the 777X? Will it be from GE or from PW?
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Old May 7th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #444
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I forgot about the lighter weight... But, what kind/s of engines might be used to power the 777X? Will it be from GE or from PW?
The only option will be GE. They will have a lower thrust rating than the current GE90-115B but they won't need as much because of the lighter weight & better wing.
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Old May 8th, 2013, 05:29 PM   #445
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"Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker has said he is interested in purchasing Boeing’s upgraded version of the popular 777 aircraft when it is officially launched, but said he was unhappy with the engine performance of its current fleet of 777 aircraft."

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/qatar...es-500489.html

I thought GE90's were very good engines and airlines were happy with their performance. Any clue as to what this is all about?
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Old May 8th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #446
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Me too but he(AAB) often complains about little things.
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Old May 8th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #447
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Austrian Airlines to add fifth 777 to its fleet; considers services to Brazil

Lufthansa subsidiary Austrian Airlines Group will add a fifth Boeing 777-200ER to its fleet from summer 2014. The aircraft, which has a €33 million ($43.2 million) market value, will be an eight-year lease from an unidentified international leasing company.

Austrian CEO Jaan Albrecht told ATW recently the airline will use additional aircraft to increase capacity on existing routes and transfer the smaller 767-300ERs on new routes, most likely to North America or Asia. “Compared to the 767, the 777 brings 20% to 25% of additional capacity on a route,” he said.

The carrier has traffic rights to Brazil from former Lauda Air, which was eliminated as part of Austrian’s restructuring process. “If the traffic rights still exist, then we have definitely an interest operating to South America, especially during the winter season,” Albrecht said.

Austrian Airlines currently operates four 777-200ERs and six 767-300ERs in its long-haul fleet.


Maybe in time for the World Cup and for the Olympics?
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The aircraft, which has a €33 million ($43.2 million) market value, will be an eight-year lease from an unidentified international leasing company.
$43.2m ???? for a 777-200ER ??? Is that figure right?
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$43.2m ???? for a 777-200ER ??? Is that figure right?
Secondhand value, I would think. It's from a leasing company.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 12:30 AM   #450
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"Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker has said he is interested in purchasing Boeing’s upgraded version of the popular 777 aircraft when it is officially launched, but said he was unhappy with the engine performance of its current fleet of 777 aircraft."

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/qatar...es-500489.html

I thought GE90's were very good engines and airlines were happy with their performance. Any clue as to what this is all about?
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Yes the fuselage will remain the same width, though inside they are going to make the cabin wider to better accommodate 10 abreast seating.
10 abreast now that's scary considering EK have 10 abreast on the current B777!
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He whinges about everything.
Exactly... He reminds me of a little boy which had his lollipop stolen from him
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Austrian Airlines to add fifth 777 to its fleet; considers services to Brazil

Lufthansa subsidiary Austrian Airlines Group will add a fifth Boeing 777-200ER to its fleet from summer 2014. The aircraft, which has a €33 million ($43.2 million) market value, will be an eight-year lease from an unidentified international leasing company.

Austrian CEO Jaan Albrecht told ATW recently the airline will use additional aircraft to increase capacity on existing routes and transfer the smaller 767-300ERs on new routes, most likely to North America or Asia. “Compared to the 767, the 777 brings 20% to 25% of additional capacity on a route,” he said.

The carrier has traffic rights to Brazil from former Lauda Air, which was eliminated as part of Austrian’s restructuring process. “If the traffic rights still exist, then we have definitely an interest operating to South America, especially during the winter season,” Albrecht said.

Austrian Airlines currently operates four 777-200ERs and six 767-300ERs in its long-haul fleet.


Maybe in time for the World Cup and for the Olympics?
If that's the case, will that new B772ER be modified to be in line with the current seating configuration of OS' current B777s, or will it have a modified seating plan, in which it will keep the configuration from the previous owner or lessee? Plus, I wonder when Austrian will update its cabins once again to reflect the changing times, especially for its angled lie-flat seats for Business Class...?

And I sense that it is more than likely the new flights will be mounted for the World Cup and the Olympics, as well as renewed interest for tourism in South America. If that's the case, the route might end up being VIE-GRU, if not VIE-GIG-GRU.
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10 abreast now that's scary considering EK have 10 abreast on the current B777!
Apparently the interior is going to be a few inches wider through the use of new insulation materials & different cabin wall design etc.
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Boeing booked 3 new orders for 777s last week.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm


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Old May 13th, 2013, 01:24 AM   #458
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Garuda's 1st 77W painted!!!

At long last. They finally have a 777 after years of rumors and delays!!!

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Garuda initiallu ordered a batch of Boeing 777-200ER back in 1996. The deal was made during Indonesian Air Show in the same year.
But series of economic and financial crisis led Garuda to postpone the order. They only resurrect the order recently.
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I wonder why do airlines always paint something beside the cockpit windows, especially those about to join an alliance. In several months, they're going to have the SkyTeam alliance logo where the Indonesian flag is now anyways.
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