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Old July 11th, 2013, 04:46 PM   #581
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No, they have since launched a new livery .
They (AA) launched the new livery on the 777-300ERs that are being delivered and they still operate the 777-200s in the old livery and are starting to be painted in the new livery. All new planes that AA is taking delivery of from Airbus and Boeing will be in the new livery. Side note does anyone know information on Singapore airlines new 777s ? Paine field blow is showing a 777 in bare skin coming off the runway.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #582
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777-300 air china...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-C...18e7f2792855d1

777-300 air india

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-I...cdbcdb9a3c4d63

777-300 aeroflot

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Old July 11th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #583
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777-300 cathay and air new zealand....

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-N...79458a4ef3be65

777-300 egyptair....

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Egypt...443491b9348a70

777-300 eva air (taiwanese company)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/EVA-A...4f7f18db176cd5
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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:40 PM   #584
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I mean, when they introduce Boeing 777-300 in late 1990s, don't they give the option for GE90?
I thought you meant the version for the 300ER. And yes, they offered the GE90 but all 777-300s have been delivered with Pratt & Whitney or RR engines.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:42 PM   #585
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Side note does anyone know information on Singapore airlines new 777s ? Paine field blow is showing a 777 in bare skin coming off the runway.
They still got 8 777-300ERs on order, the 9V-SWU is the next one to be delivered.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #586
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9V-SWU is the one in the picture. Thanks!
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Old July 12th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #587
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Old July 14th, 2013, 12:33 PM   #588
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Boeing has already the replacement for Asiana's crashed 777 ready, the HL8284 rolled out of the paint hangar yesterday.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9282204692/


Of course it's just coincidence that Boeing has this 777-200ER almost ready for delivery right now, but Asiana can sure use it.


This is btw, the final 777-200ER that rolled out of the factory, unless Asiana decide to order one more as a replacement for the HL7742. But I doubt that Boeing will have a available delivery slot early enough to make it worthwhile. So this will be the 422nd and last 200ER that will be delivered. The 4th this year after ANA already took delivery of their last 3 earlier this year.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #589
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Interesting to know they still have interest in -200ER...
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They still had it on order, why not take delivery of it. Other airlines have converted some of their last -200ER orders to the -300LR, but Asiana could not do this since they had non on order.

They ordered this plane in March 2008, and that was the last order for the -200ER that wasn't a 787 delay compensation. The very last order for the -200 by ANA that was placed in Dec 2009 would not have been placed if the 787 wouldn't have been delayed as much as it did.

So the delivery itself is not really a surprise but the 2 top-up orders in 2008 surely where, especially since they already had the A330-300 also in their fleet. I guess they needed the 777-200ER for some extra range, but didn't need as many planes to make an order for the -200LR or the -300ER interesting. But then again, they could have just cancelled it since they decided to go all Airbus with their future long-haul fleet with the orders for the A350 and the A380. I guess with this delivery they want to keep Boeing happy, they have a sizable freighter fleet that need to be replaced at some point in time. And Boeing does have the best product range with the 777F and the 747-8F to replace all those 744Fs. This last 777-200ER might not be the last 777 delivered to this airline after all.
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Who knows they might be launch customer for the 777X program. I could see the 747-8F in their fleet. Korean Air has them in their cargo fleet and Seoul-ICN is no stranger to the 747-8F.
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Boeing has already the replacement for Asiana's crashed 777 ready, the HL8284 rolled out of the paint hangar yesterday.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9282204692/

Of course it's just coincidence that Boeing has this 777-200ER almost ready for delivery right now, but Asiana can sure use it.

This is btw, the final 777-200ER that rolled out of the factory, unless Asiana decide to order one more as a replacement for the HL7742. But I doubt that Boeing will have a available delivery slot early enough to make it worthwhile. So this will be the 422nd and last 200ER that will be delivered. The 4th this year after ANA already took delivery of their last 3 earlier this year.
Aww, that's pretty sad... The last B772ER to be delivered very soon, and it's with the airline that had a bad accident last week in my patch. So, from here, there would be no more orders to be taken for the B772ER and instead, airlines can continue on with the B77W? I mean, that is a good alternative price-wise for a larger aircraft... But the B77W can fly further than the B777-200ER to begin with.
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Who knows they might be launch customer for the 777X program. I could see the 747-8F in their fleet. Korean Air has them in their cargo fleet and Seoul-ICN is no stranger to the 747-8F.
I'm getting interested to know more about the 777X program myself... I wanna ask:

• what kinds of improvements might we get to see with the upcoming program than the current generation 777s?
• how longer (or shorter) will the fuselages be for the upcoming generation of aircraft?
• what kinds of seating configurations might we end up having for the various aircraft types... will those offer 4-class seating? Staggered seating for J and C classes? Or even a higher-density Y layout?

There are so much more, but I think I wanna save them for later...
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Aww, that's pretty sad... The last B772ER to be delivered very soon, and it's with the airline that had a bad accident last week in my patch. So, from here, there would be no more orders to be taken for the B772ER and instead, airlines can continue on with the B77W? I mean, that is a good alternative price-wise for a larger aircraft... But the B77W can fly further than the B777-200ER to begin with.
There has been no order for the 200ER since 2009 and I already explained the last one was just a 787 delay compensation offer.

There have been some 777-200LR orders, a couple of hundred 300ER orders since then. And now airlines can also order the 787-10 which in size is also very similar to a 9 abreast 777-200ER, just with less range but that's not an issue with most airlines.

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Who knows they might be launch customer for the 777X program.
That's not going to happen. If they going to buy the 777X it will only be later on if they need a plane sized between the A3510 and the A380, but they will definitely not be the launch customer. And not just because that honor will go to Emirates and/or Qatar Airways.
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I'm getting interested to know more about the 777X program myself... I wanna ask:

• what kinds of improvements might we get to see with the upcoming program than the current generation 777s?
• how longer (or shorter) will the fuselages be for the upcoming generation of aircraft?
• what kinds of seating configurations might we end up having for the various aircraft types... will those offer 4-class seating? Staggered seating for J and C classes? Or even a higher-density Y layout?

There are so much more, but I think I wanna save them for later...
The 777-8X will be 69.5m long, that's about 4 meters shorter then the 300ER, but 6 meters longer then the 777-200 all variants. The 777-9X will be 76.5 m long, that's almost 3 meters longer then the 300ER. With a standard seating the 9X will have about 20 more seats then the 300ER.

The seating configurations are as always up to the airlines, although there will probably be an upper limit to total number of passengers based on the minimal evacuation times. Staggered seating has been proposed several times, and airlines have looked at quite seriously but it has never been fitted to an plane and will most likely also not be fitted on the 777X. But again, that's all up to the customers and has nothing to do with the design of the plane. What will change is that Boeing is looking at widening the inside of the cabin to make a bit more room for 10 abreast that has become the standard for new 777-300ER customers. It will also get the bigger 787 style windows.

Technically the 777X will have bigger wings, probably with folding wing tips. The wings will be made from Carbon-fiber-reinforced polymer, making them lighter then the current 777 wings. It will of course get the newest engines, that will be biggest positive influence on the fuel burn reductions.
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Aww, that's pretty sad... The last B772ER to be delivered very soon, and it's with the airline that had a bad accident last week in my patch. So, from here, there would be no more orders to be taken for the B772ER and instead, airlines can continue on with the B77W? I mean, that is a good alternative price-wise for a larger aircraft... But the B77W can fly further than the B777-200ER to begin with.

Yup and look what else is in the pic- strange coincidence huh? Hmmm
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Just some basic question actually: which airlines operete GE90 powered Boeing 777-200 or -200ER?
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Retired from the SQ fleet in June 2013 and currently stored waiting to be scrapped. Only 15 years of age.
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Why do they scrap the aircraft? Why don't they sell it to other airlines?
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The 777-200 is not really so desirable anymore, most of the missions they are used on can be performed by the A330-300 which is more economical to operate.
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