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Old December 17th, 2013, 10:50 PM   #981
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They will open Guangzhou - New York mid next year with the 777-300ER. This pretty much answers most off your questions at once. They will be used for the expansion of their long haul network. The seat configuration has not yet been publicized but with this route you can expect a more premium configuration with 1 class and a good sized premium economy.

The 777-200s are being phased out, but that has more to do with all the A330s coming in the next couple of years (they still have 13 of those on order).


ps. They are now scheduled to arrive mid 2014, there won't be any going into final productions the next couple of months.

It will also be interesting if they will get the standard China Southern livery or if they will get something special just like their 787s.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 10:55 PM   #982
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Just a question: with China Southern about to get the B777-300ER, will it retire its current B777-200ERs in the fleet, or will it be used to bolster more flights out of its hubs in Guangzhou, Beijing, and other Chinese airports? Also, will that aircraft be used mostly for long-haul flights, or will it be used mostly for domestic and regional flights that require large capacity aircraft? I mean, if the B77W will be operated in tandem with the A380 and the B772, that would be quite a lot of long-haul aircraft for the fledgling Chinese carrier... I hope it will operate Guangzhou-San Francisco soon to compete with CX's twice-daily Hong Kong-San Francisco service using the B772 or the new B77W. And by the way, does anyone know of its seat configuration too?
Here is an article in flight global about the CZ order.

China Southern to acquire 10 777-300ERs

China Southern has agreed to acquire 10 Boeing 777-300ERs, the first time this specific type has been selected by the carrier.

The Guangzhou-based carrier said it would purchase the aircraft, the list price for which is $298 million apiece, and take delivery in stages from 2013-16.

China Southern said, however, that the actual price was "significantly lower" than the catalogue price because of concessions from the airframer.

It said it could not disclose the actual agreed price of the aircraft, partly because it has failed to obtain consent from Boeing to reveal the information.

"Disclosure of the actual consideration will result in the loss of the significant price concessions and hence a significant negative impact on the group's cost for the acquisition," the carrier said.

All 777-300ERs are powered by General Electric GE90 engines. China Southern said it would fund the acquisition of the 777-300ERs partly through cash and partly through financing arrangements with banks.

The twinjets will increase the capacity of the group by nearly 8% compared with its position at the end of 2011.

China Southern is already a 777 operator but its fleet currently comprises 777-200 variants including the 777 freighter.

The order is replacing four 777-200ERs that they have in their fleet.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #983
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Since when? Dubai Air Show, last week, yesterday?
since yesterday and last week because I know about dubai airshow b777x got about 200 orders from 4 airlines Lufthansa, Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar in dubai airshow
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Old December 18th, 2013, 07:56 AM   #984
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Introducing the new Boeing 777X

Boeing stole the show at this year's Dubai Air Show when it introduced its brand new Boeing 777X. Here's a look at what the new aircraft has to offer. Watch the video here

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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:09 PM   #985
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Boeing aims for 777X site decision in January

Boeing plans to narrow potential sites for 777X final and wing assembly by the end of the week and reach a final decision in early January, the company says in a letter to employees.

Boeing says it is moving forward with evaluating bids from 22 states for 54 sites.

The local leadership of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) rejected Boeing's latest offer to base the 777X and wing assembly in the Puget Sound area.

Though local IAM leaders have claimed Boeing withdrew its proposal, Boeing Commercial Airplanes chief executive Ray Conner says the offer was rejected and the company stands behind the work agreement.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #986
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One of the more interesting liveries for the 777 will be for the new upcoming long-haul LCC NokScoot, a joint-venture of Singapore's Scoot and Thailands Nok Air that will be based in Bangkok. Before the new company will get several 787s from the Scoot order it will operate several 777-200s that will come from Scoot/Singapore Airlines. The planes will be painted in the colorful bird liveries which Nok Air is known for.

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Nok Air joins with Singapore's Scoot

A new game in Thailand's hotly contested low-cost-carrier (LCC) market is beginning in the long-haul low-fare segment, with Thailand's Nok Air teaming up with Singapore's Scoot to create a joint-venture...

It will initially operate two or three Boeing 777-200 wide-body aircraft sourced from Scoot's fleet, although the aeroplanes will be repainted with Nok Air's distinctive colourful bird-like motif but carry...
Please credit and share this article with others using this link:http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/...ingapore-scoot. View our policies at http://goo.gl/9HgTd and http://goo.gl/ou6Ip. © Post Publishing PCL. All rights reserved.
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The Aeroflot VQ-BQB on it's 1st flight.

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The Aeroflot VQ-BQB on it's 1st flight.


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Old December 20th, 2013, 02:40 PM   #989
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Cathay orders 21 777-9Xs

Cathay Pacific has placed an order for 21 Boeing 777-9X aircraft, with deliveries to take place between 2021 and 2024.

The aircraft are worth HK$58 billion ($7.5 billion) at list prices, says the Oneworld carrier in a statement.

“Cathay Pacific is committed to modernising its fleet to provide a superior experience to passengers while at the same time delivering cost benefits to the airline and reducing our impact on the environment,” says Cathay chief executive John Slosar.

“The 777-300ER has done a super job for us – indeed, Cathay Pacific is now the second largest operator of this type – and we are delighted to be an early customer for this next generation of the aircraft.”

He says the aircraft will be used mainly on routes to North America and Europe, particularly routes with high volumes of both passengers and cargo.

Flightglobal’s Ascend Online Fleets database shows that Cathay Pacific operates 38 Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, and has another 12 on order. The carrier also has orders for 26 Airbus A350-1000s, and 22 A350-900s.

Cathay adds that the 777-9X order brings its total order book to 89 aircraft with a list price of HK$215 billion.
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Properly sourced Boeing Press release:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2013-12-...for-21-777-9Xs

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Boeing and Cathay Pacific Airways Announce Order for 21 777-9Xs

HONG KONG, Dec. 20, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE:BA) and Cathay Pacific today announced the airline's decision to become Asia's first 777X customer with an order for 21 777-9X airplanes, as part of Cathay's future long-haul fleet strategy. The order is valued at more than $7 billion at current list prices.

"The 777-9X promises us improved payload range capability and reduced operating costs, in addition to a significant reduction in environmental emissions," said John Slosar, chief executive of Cathay Pacific Airways. "We think it will be an ideal fit for long-haul destinations in North America and Europe, in particular those routes where we carry high volumes of passengers and cargo each day. Cathay Pacific is committed to modernizing its fleet to provide a superior experience to passengers."

The 777X program was launched at the Dubai Airshow last month where it garnered a record 259 orders and commitments worth $95 billion at list prices. The 777X currently stands as the largest product launch in commercial jetliner history by value and is targeted for first delivery in 2020.

"Cathay Pacific and Boeing share a long-term partnership that spans four decades," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and CEO Ray Conner. "We are honored to continue our tradition of launching new airplane models with Cathay Pacific in Asia, starting with the Rolls Royce powered 747-400 and the original 777-200s, 777-300s, 777-300ERs and naturally, now with the 777X family."

Slosar added that, "the 777-300ER has done a superb job for us and Cathay Pacific is now the second largest operator of this type. We are now delighted to be an early customer for this next generation of the 777 aircraft."

Advanced technology including a new composite wing, all-new engines and superior aerodynamics will result in the incredible fuel efficiency promised by the 777X family. The 777-9X, with 400 seats, will be the largest and most efficient twin-engine commercial jet in the world with the lowest operating cost per seat of any commercial airplane and no competitor in its market segment.

Hong Kong's flag carrier operates 55 777s, including 38 777-300ERs and an all-Boeing freighter fleet that includes 13 747-8 Freighters.

Cathay press release:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...e-in-2021.html


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Cathay Pacific's 777-9X order of 21 planes essentially ends any idea of the airline buying the A380-800.
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the 777X is really a game changer ....airbus cant be happy!
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With EK placing an order for 50 A380's at the Dubai Air show I highly doubt Airbus is worried.
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With EK placing an order for 50 A380's at the Dubai Air show I highly doubt Airbus is worried.
Airbus would be worried for the 350 series not 380
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With 48 orders for the A350 from Cathay, including 26 for the A350-1000 the closest competitor for the 777-9X I doubt that Airbus is really worrying about the A350 with this new Boeing order.

On the other hand, Cathay has been deliberating an A380 (or 747-8I) order for years. But recently all the signals that came out of the airline turned against an order for a 4 engined VLA. This order seals this deal, Cathay won't be ordering the A380 in the near future.

This order shows that Cathay is very happy about their 777-300ERs, and that the option go bigger with 2 engines is very interesting to them. I also doubt that this will be their last order for the 777-9X. The A350s will replace the A330, A340, 772s and the 773 (non ER) in the fleet. Right now Cathay has 50 777-300ERs in their fleet or on order, they are likely to be replaced by the 777-9X. That gives us an idea on how this first order could grow over in the future.
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Airbus would be worried for the 350 series not 380
The original quote was in regards to CX ruling out the A380 as pointed out below.

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I think Airbus is more bothered (not so much worried) that the initial success of the 777X means that they don't have the market monopoly in the next generation largest twin category. If you look at the A330 vs. the current 777 you see that the A330 is the market leader in it's size range and the 777-300ER the leader in the bigger size range. I think that Airbus expected this this to turn around with the 787 taking over the role of the A330 and the A350 the role of the 777 reversing the order of the market balance. But with the success of the 777-9X this market balance in which Airbus finally thought it was able reach a 50/50 market share in the long-haul market has been disrupted. Boeing will keep the edge in the market with the biggest backlog in this segment.

Which is seen in the current year firm net orders, up to now Airbus and Boeing booked a pretty similar number of wide-body orders. But that's without the still outstanding Emirates and Qatar orders for the 777-9X which could add 200 orders to Boeing.
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Personally, I believe the 777-9X in Cathay Pacific service will be primarily used on high-capacity long-distance routes such as HKG to YYZ, YVR, SFO, LAX, SYD, and LHR. In short, expect the 777-9X to make an early appearance at LAX (and soon afterwards SFO) once it enters service.
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Can someone explain to me why a 777 can carry much more cargo than planes of comparable length? I have tried to google diagrams of the hold but haven't really been able to find any.
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Personally, I believe the 777-9X in Cathay Pacific service will be primarily used on high-capacity long-distance routes such as HKG to YYZ, YVR, SFO, LAX, SYD, and LHR. In short, expect the 777-9X to make an early appearance at LAX (and soon afterwards SFO) once it enters service.
I agree with the routes mentioned with exception of SYD. The A333's are perfect fit for SYD, MEL, BNE, CNS, ADL, PER routes enabling CX to provide frequency over capacity.
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