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Old January 3rd, 2014, 08:33 AM   #1041
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 09:07 AM   #1042
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I wouldn't call it one of the prettiest photos but here's a 77W which has seen better days. ��
Is anyone able to shed some light on the status of this bird considering its only 7 years old? I believe a B777 was involved in a cockpit fire but that was an Egypt Air B772.
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Boeing 777-340/ER AP-BHW
Karachi - Jinnah International (Quaid-e-Azam) (KHI / OPKC) Pakistan, December 21, 2013
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 09:38 AM   #1043
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On that website it says none of PIA 777's have been scrapped or written off...
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 09:56 AM   #1044
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I believe the aircraft is mothballed, or probably undergone heavy maintenance.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 09:59 AM   #1045
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I wouldn't call it one of the prettiest photos but here's a 77W which has seen better days. ��
Is anyone able to shed some light on the status of this bird considering its only 7 years old? I believe a B777 was involved in a cockpit fire but that was an Egypt Air B772.
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Karachi - Jinnah International (Quaid-e-Azam) (KHI / OPKC) Pakistan, December 21, 2013
[IMG]http://i39.************/s25fzt.jpg[/IMG]
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Pakis...6f1da000c6775d
It's either a routine check (I also saw one 777 in the Karachi hangar) or it's being used for parts because someone in PIA embezzled the parts money and they just parted out a plane to use for parts.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 12:52 PM   #1046
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http://www.planespotters.net/Airline...ional-Airlines
On that website it says none of PIA 777's have been scrapped or written off...
I've checked & like you said definitely not written off.

[IMG]http://i39.************/2ileiat.jpg[/IMG]
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I believe the aircraft is mothballed, or probably undergone heavy maintenance.
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It's either a routine check (I also saw one 777 in the Karachi hangar) or it's being used for parts because someone in PIA embezzled the parts money and they just parted out a plane to use for parts.
Really sad to have a young frame used for spare parts
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 02:42 PM   #1047
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I'm going to sleep well tonight knowing this bird is returning to the skies!

She underwent a maintenance check and engine swap. Yesterday, the following statement was posted on PIA's Facebook page:

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PIA AP-BHW B777-3ER got both engines and getting ready to fly again. All removed components are being installed.

Possibly, this bird will take less than two weeks to go above the clouds!

Source: PIA Engineering and Maintenance

Including a recent picture of AP-BHW:

[IMG]http://i44.************/2vsklcg.jpg[/IMG]

Source http://www.facebook.com/Pakistan.Int...irlines.Photos
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 08:44 PM   #1048
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It sure could use a new coat of paint.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 07:02 AM   #1049
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It sure could use a new coat of paint.
PK has a new logo now so we will see fresh paint job/new cabins and wifi on the 777 fleet.

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Old January 4th, 2014, 07:04 AM   #1050
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It's either a routine check (I also saw one 777 in the Karachi hangar) or it's being used for parts because someone in PIA embezzled the parts money and they just parted out a plane to use for parts.
It was awaiting engine delivery so they decided to take parts from the plane.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 08:51 AM   #1051
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Boeing's search for a new location to build the 777X is over, the production will stay where it is in Everett. The Machinist union that rejected Boeing's new contract last year did another vote yesterday and the proposal was accepted although with a very narrow margin.

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SEATTLE – Machinists Union members have voted to accept the Boeing Co.’s proposed eight-year contract with a 51 percent yes vote.

“Our members have spoken and this is the course we’ll take,” said Tom Wroblewski, the president of Machinists Union District Lodge 751, which represents more than 30,000 hourly workers at Boeing plants in Puget Sound.

The decision means Boeing will stop seeking alternate sites for its 777X aircraft program, the latest version of its best-selling widebody jet, and start preparations to start final assembly and wing fabrication in Puget Sound.
The union’s goal in coming years will be to fight to ensure Boeing lives up to its commitment to its workforce and keeps jobs in Washington state, Wroblewski said.

The vote to accept the contract came even though Wroblewski and the District 751 leadership team had unanimously recommended that union members reject Boeing’s offer, which included steep concessions on retirement and health care benefits and limits on future wage growth.

“All along we knew that our members wanted to build the 777X, and that it was in Boeing’s best interest to have them do it,” he said. “We recommended that our members reject the offer because we felt that the cost was too high, in terms of our lost pensions and the thousands of dollars in additional health care costs we’ll have to pay each year.

“Now, it’s up to all of us now to pull together to make this airplane program successful. I’m confident we will do that, because as we’ve said all along, this is the most-skilled aerospace workforce in the world.”
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This is very good news for Boeing and for the customers of the 777X. They can keep the 777 production where it is now, although there will be a new assembly line and a wing fabrication plant. But the knowledge and the skills of the workman that have made the 777 a success story can now also be used for the development of the 777X. This limits the risk of delays, which would be much bigger when it would not just be a "new" type but also a completely new production site. With the composite wings also being fabricated on site by Boeing, limiting the outsourcing of key components.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 09:25 AM   #1052
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Old January 4th, 2014, 02:03 PM   #1053
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Old January 4th, 2014, 07:23 PM   #1054
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Boeing's search for a new location to build the 777X is over, the production will stay where it is in Everett. The Machinist union that rejected Boeing's new contract last year did another vote yesterday and the proposal was accepted although with a very narrow margin.

This is very good news for Boeing and for the customers of the 777X. They can keep the 777 production where it is now, although there will be a new assembly line and a wing fabrication plant.

But the knowledge and the skills of the workman that have made the 777 a success story can now also be used for the development of the 777X. This limits the risk of delays, which would be much bigger when it would not just be a "new" type but also a completely new production site. With the composite wings also being fabricated on site by Boeing, limiting the outsourcing of key components.
Yes, this is very good news for Boeing and their workforce. Though I did not expect this outcome since the previous deal was kicked-out so harshly by the vote of the union members.

of course sweetening the deal with a 10 year guarantee that also the B737 will be produced in WA has helped just enough to clinch this deal. Which is the best possible outcome for Boeing and the workforce of Boeing.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 10:23 PM   #1055
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Yes, this is very good news for Boeing and their workforce. Though I did not expect this outcome since the previous deal was kicked-out so harshly by the vote of the union members.

of course sweetening the deal with a 10 year guarantee that also the B737 will be produced in WA has helped just enough to clinch this deal. Which is the best possible outcome for Boeing and the workforce of Boeing.
I think the Boeing employees learned that the Boeing Company is willing to move jobs out of state. AKA the 787 program in Charlestown.

So it was wise for them to approve the 777x in Everett. Other wise they wouldve lost another plane.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 10:30 PM   #1056
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I think the Boeing employees learned that the Boeing Company is willing to move jobs out of state. AKA the 787 program in Charlestown.

So it was wise for them to approve the 777x in Everett. Other wise they wouldve lost another plane.
There were a few analysts that said Boeing's experience with moving 787 production to Charelston was rough enough that they might have kept production in Everett even in the event of another no vote. So who knows, the threat to move production elsewhere could've been an elaborate bluff.

In the end, the machinists seem to feel they had to much to lose to call their bluff and Boeing got the win-win. They get what the want from the local labor (and government) and they get the easier of the production solutions.

Hopefully it turns out to be worth it for the Puget Sound region.
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Given that, presumably, they are bankrolled by some fairly rich individuals, it's a shame they can't come up with a more appealing colour scheme!
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Boeing 777 last orders of 2013
http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Cathay:
21x 777-9X
3x 777-300ER

Unidentified:
1x 777-300ER


Total net orders in 2013: 113 (66x 777X).


I find it quite modest with the 777X launch in mind. Boeing only booked 47 new orders for the older models, much lower then the previous couple of years. This year will be a different story, as the Emirates and Qatar orders will (hopefully) be firmed. That should bring the order total already far beyond 2013.
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