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Old July 10th, 2014, 02:10 PM   #1501
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Air New Zealand considers Boeing 777X vs Airbus A350

Air New Zealand will run the ruler over both the Boeing 777X and Airbus A350 as replacements for its current long-range Boeing 777 fleet, the airline revealed today.

Also in the mix is a second batch of 787-9s with more premium seating for the North American market.

"In the next decade we’ll have to look at the replacement of our Boeing 777-200ERs as well as the Boeing 777-300ER" Air New Zealand chief financial officer Rob McDonald told journalists in Seattle today, ahead of the delivery flight of the Kiwi carrier's first Boeing 787-9.

Read: Air New Zealand set to bring Boeing 787-9 home to Auckland

McDonald said "this will be a big contest" between the Boeing 777X and the Airbus A350, although adding "that's many years away."

Closer on the calendar is a second order for the Boeing 787-9, with Air New Zealand holding options to buy eight more of the Dreamliners on top of the current 10.

"Some of those options come up in the next little while, so we'll turn our minds to that as to where we think the network will go" McDonald said.

Getting sharper at the pointy end

While the first ten Boeing 787-9s will replace Air New Zealand's older fuel-thirsty Boeing 767s, they also allow for new destinations throughout the Asia-Pacific region.

But in order to take on US or Canadian routes the airline will consider a revamped configuration with more business class and premium economy seats.

"Technically the 787-9 can do trans-Pacific" with a fully load of passengers, McDonald said, "but probably not on the way back."

"The issue is that we put quite a few seats onto the 787-9 because this configuration is very much pitched to a tourism market like the Asian market – we think this is a very good configuration for cities like Shanghai and Tokyo – so we will turn our minds to whether another configuration is required (for North America)."

That layout would ramp up the premium seating at the pointy end of the plane.

"The issue is has it got enough business class, has it got enough premium economy" McDonald explains, "and as you take that seta count down you'll lift the range up."

McDonald said that a second wave of 787-9s could support a further push into the Asia-Pacific market or take over North American routes from the Boeing 777-200.

"Both are possible. As the 777-200 fleet gets older and we look at its replacement, this becomes an obvious candidate but to do that we’d probably need to give it a bit more range and the way to do that is shrink (the capacity)."

However, McDonald all but ruled out the Boeing 787-10, which may be larger than the -9 but lacks its sibling's extended range, as "the 787-10 won't do trans-Pacific."

Also read: Emirates locks down order for 150 Boeing 777X jets

Australian Business Traveller is attending the Boeing 787-9 launch in Seattle as a guest of Air New Zealand and Boeing.

Source: http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-new-zeal...vs-airbus-a350
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Old July 10th, 2014, 05:42 PM   #1503
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Old July 11th, 2014, 12:31 PM   #1505
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Old July 11th, 2014, 02:05 PM   #1506
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Old July 11th, 2014, 07:23 PM   #1507
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This First Class is not even up to par with many airlines' Business Class.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 08:23 PM   #1508
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This First Class is not even up to par with many airlines' Business Class.
I could argue, though, that Saudi Airlines is actually reintroducing First Class gradually since it has focused more on Business Class, if not mono-class (all Economy) on board its long-haul aircraft. It will take time to get its F class on par with other airlines since it has owned many B747s that have only 1 or 2 classes (no F), and even though it has owned B777-200ERs before, probably those have even older F seats compared to that one on board the B777-300ER.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 04:34 AM   #1509
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Old July 12th, 2014, 10:39 AM   #1510
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Aspire aviation speak about orders the next week in the air show of the B777X in BA,leasing Companies, SQ,EVA,Philipine airlines.
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Old July 15th, 2014, 04:30 PM   #1512
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In Brief: Orders And Updates From Farnborough

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AIR LEASE CORPORATION ordered six more 777-300ERs and 20 more 737 MAX-8s, increasing its order total with BOEING to 245 aircraft: 75 737-800s (22 delivered), 104 MAXs, 21 777-300ERs (two delivered), 15 787-9s and 30 787-10s.

CIT AEROSPACE ordered 10 more 787-9s, and now has 20 787s on order: 16 -9s and four -8s.

INTREPID AVIATION placed its first direct order with BOEING for six 777-300ERs in deal that includes four options.

CIT AEROSPACE agreed to order 15 A330-900neos for delivery starting in 2018 and five A321ceos for delivery starting in 2015.

AVOLON agreed to order 15 A330neos.

SMBC AVIATION CAPITAL ordered 110 A320neos and five A320ceos, and has now ordered 206 A320 Family aircraft. AIRBUS says it is largest ever single firm order by leasing company for a single-aisle aircraft, and it has now booked >3,000 A320neo orders.

BOC AVIATION ordered seven A320neo Family aircraft and 36 A320ceo aircraft (eight with V2500s). It now has 116 A320 Family aircraft on order.

LOONG AIR, China ordered 11 CFM56-powered A320s to join its fleet of five.

EMBRAER has LOI from AZUL to order 30 E195-E2s and take purchase rights on 20 more; it also identified FUJI DREAM (three E175s/three options) and AZAL (two E190s) for previously undisclosed orders.

AIR LEASE CORPORATION ordered seven more ATR 72-600s, and has now ordered 28.

ALASKA AIR GROUP ordered a 52nd Q400 for HORIZON AIR and signed 5-year heavy maintenance contract with BOMBARDIER to support fleet out of Tucson, AZ.

ROLLS-ROYCE made first run of 97,000 lb thrust Trent XWB-97 for A350-1000; flight testing is slated to start in 2016.

BOMBARDIER AEROSPACE launched a Q400NG Combi that can simultaneously carry 50 passengers and 8,200 lb cargo.

GE AVIATION plans to build $50m, 300,000 sq ft additive manufacturing facility in Auburn, AL to begin producing precision, super-alloy machined parts for jet engines in 2015.

LUFTHANSA TECHNIK secured SAS contract to perform 150 737/A320 C-Checks through 2018, primarily at SHANNON AEROSPACE and LUFTHANSA TECHNIK SOFIA.

AFI KLM E&M has Virgin Atlantic contract to provide 787-9 component support.

DOWTY PROPELLERS has SpiceJet contract to provide propeller maintenance/support for 15 Q400s.

FIRTH RIXSON has $1b UTC contract to supply PurePower engine components for PRATT & WHITNEY and 787/A320 landing gear components for UTC AEROSPACE SYSTEMS.

AIRCELLE was selected to supply the nacelles for Trent 7000-powered A330neo.

ROCKWELL COLLINS was selected by BAE Systems to supply the Flight Control Module (FCM) for the Boeing 777X Integrated Flight Control Electronics (IFCE) fly-by-wire (FBW) system.

BOEING unveiled 777X cabin features that will include a 6,000 ft cabin altitude, larger windows, and increased width to accommodate 18-inch-wide seats.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 03:21 AM   #1513
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Just a quick question, what do you think about the cabin lays out of the new Kenya Airways ( of course in Business Class and also in Economy)?

full trip report of the magnificient B777-300ER is available here:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/254802/


Business class:










and now the Economy:





Of course the business class experience was better but, with the Sky Trax release, Why some airlines can show off and not Kenya Airways?


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Old July 17th, 2014, 06:24 PM   #1514
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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border
(Reuters) - A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

It said the Boeing plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. Reuters could not immediately confirm the Interfax report.

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Old July 17th, 2014, 07:07 PM   #1515
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It's a very very very sad year for Malaysian Airlines......

First the lost of MH370 and today they lost a plane because of a military rocket.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 07:38 PM   #1516
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here are some images from Indian News channel NDTV. 295 people dead 2014 year is bad for Malaysia Airline first MH 370 went missing and still didn't found and now MH 17 shot down over Ukraine it was another B777-200
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It's a very very very sad year for Malaysian Airlines......

First the lost of MH370 and today they lost a plane because of a military rocket.

It is absolutely confirmed that the plane was bring down by a missile?

Very bad luck to both the 777 and Malasyan Airlines, two planes lost, one in circunstances so misterious that nobody really knows what happened months after the plane get lost, with no trace of it yet....

Now this one that may be shot down by a missile, very sad. By the way, I don't believe much in that, but the numerology coincidence is so big that it is worth to be mentioned: it was the Malasya Airlines flight 17, it was destroyed on july 17 2014, according to wikipedia, that particular plane, was first flown on july 17 1997, exactly 17 years ago!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...ines_Flight_17
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It is absolutely confirmed that the plane was bring down by a missile?

Very bad luck to both the 777 and Malasyan Airlines, two planes lost, one in circunstances so misterious that nobody really knows what happened months after the plane get lost, with no trace of it yet....

Now this one that may be shot down by a missile, very sad. By the way, I don't believe much in that, but the numerology coincidence is so big that it is worth to be mentioned: it was the Malasya Airlines flight 17, it was destroyed on july 17 2014, according to wikipedia, that particular plane, was first flown on july 17 1997, exactly 17 years ago!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...ines_Flight_17
Indeed, it is a terrible blow for Malaysia Airlines. Maybe the airline should get another aircraft type other than the B777 in case this continues because it can tarnish the airline's reputation so bad.
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Indeed, it is a terrible blow for Malaysia Airlines. Maybe the airline should get another aircraft type other than the B777 in case this continues because it can tarnish the airline's reputation so bad.
But if it is indeed confirmed that it was shot down, it wouldnt be the fault neither of the airline nor of the plane.
In the case of the flight 370, seems that neither is the plane or airline fault also, although in that case it is still unknown what really happened.

According to this tweet on the NYTimes"Many of the bodies were largely intact, indicating that the plane had made at least a somewhat controlled landing." @stavernise on #MH17
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