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Old December 11th, 2012, 11:59 AM   #21
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Kingsway is another example, one of the grandest streets in london it's so fake and rubbish isn't it.

Ando's Church, I would rather put my head in a cardboard box.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:01 PM   #22
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Apropos of the "Disneyland" thing: I can't see how Richmond Riverside is any more Disneyland than this. How do you know this temple doesn't have a steel/concrete core? The Richmond buildings are as sensitive and accurate in detail as the project could afford, and it takes an enthusiast/expert to notice how young they really are.
The Hindu temple was built using stone blocks carved in India and shipped over to be assembled to be used as an authentic Hindu temple by Hindu worshippers. Here are a few people dedicated to building something authentic for a community something akin to Gaudi. Its setting is not authentic and they sit uncomfortably in the surrounds eg the Neasden example is sat in an semi industrial and semi residential wasteland in Wembley. However that is not the fault of the builders and can be improved over time. By appearing in this country it creates something quite fresh and new, dare I say exotic; possibly how the Brighton Pavilions appeared all that time ago.

Richmond Riverside by contrast borders on pastiche, from a distance and at a glance it works but close up its quality, proportions and details fail it. The river-setting and its landscaping make it a pleasant place to spend time. I would say the original phase of Poundbury had better build quality. However The UK is full of real and better examples of Georgian architecture. I would therefore conclude "what is the point"? I'm not that fussed about it but its not in the same ethos as this Hindu temple.

If you want Disneyification you just need to visit the themed towns and shopping malls covering the planet. Ok for a laugh but many also have ugly nationalistic undertones, I've been to a few in China where the architecture is trying to clarify an invented historical lineage to reassure a population.

We have enough protected true examples of architecture from many ages in this city I would always push for something of our time especially with the types of economic pressures at play with all those standards and environmental pressures. Richard Rogers has single handly helped create a unique style of architecture I'm sure plenty of others can take the baton on if we let them.
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Kingsway is another example, one of the grandest streets in london it's so fake and rubbish isn't it.
Yes you cant move for all those people desperate to spend their valuable time there
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #24
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If you hate all religion, how are you qualified to judge the success/failure of a modern Church?
For 138 posts and three months membership you really are becoming an annoyance at the party.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #25
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For 138 posts and three months membership you really are becoming an annoyance at the party.
Stop with the cliquey shit...you were a noob once, were all your opinions wrong at 138 posts.?, after how many posts did they become valid.?
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:28 PM   #26
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Yes you cant move for all those people desperate to spend their valuable time there
It's one of the busiest and highest rent streets in London?

Speaking of Kingsway, I would LOVE to see the tram tunnel used for its original purpose again.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:30 PM   #27
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Busiest with people passing through it - not stopping to enjoy it.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #28
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Each end (Strand and Southampton Row) are amongst the most photographed streets in London.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:34 PM   #29
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Right... but they're streets nearby, not the Kingsway itself??
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:34 PM   #30
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Yes you cant move for all those people desperate to spend their valuable time there
Regent street is another example.

Also you can't appreciate the street as the trees have not been cut for many years.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #31
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You can only fully appreciate Regent St on car free days when your not pushed up against the shop fronts.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #32
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Busiest with people passing through it - not stopping to enjoy it.
I do.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:37 PM   #33
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Ha of course you do.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #34
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What exactly are you trying to argue?
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #35
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Arguing nothing.
Merely pointing out that Potto was right - the Kingsway is not an area people are flocking too - it's a through road.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #36
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@ Potto,

I agree with basically everything you've said, and I appreciate your delineating your thoughts with maturity and composure; but one thing: I don't understand what "architecture of our time" constitutes. We live in the Post-Postmodern Era, according to philosophical/literary/academic discourse. The writers/thinkers whom I've read and who've resonated most with me have suggested we stop trying to be so smart-arse and post-everything, and instead return to sincere literature/media/&c., i.e., we stop worrying about being accused of naïveté. Why can't the same ideas be discussed vis-à-vis architecture? I'm not saying that neoclassical=sincere whereas pomo=insincere, or anything reductive like that -- I just don't agree that "traditional" architectural styles should be cut out of the discourse entirely.

I'm not expressing myself very clearly, for which I apologize.

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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:47 PM   #37
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Ando's Church of light is a great example of a modern religious building.

It looks like some sort of court house from a futuristic authoritarian police state.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #38
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For 138 posts and three months membership you really are becoming an annoyance at the party.
I don't see how my perfectly reasonable and logical question should have provoked so much hatred from you. I'm sorry that disagreeing with you rescinds my right to membership of this community.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #39
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This isn't a discussion on how shallow you are (hating religion) it's about a wonderful building on a regular London street.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 01:54 PM   #40
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Hating religion is shallow? Go away troll.
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