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Old December 28th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #81
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Great, very nice updates; keep them coming
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #82
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it's great to see the Eastern Bloc through photos. There are lots of beautiful heritage buildings
but those photos of skulls and bombed-out buildings really got me down.
Thanks though for sharing them.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 03:15 PM   #83
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Great, very nice updates; keep them coming
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it's great to see the Eastern Bloc through photos. There are lots of beautiful heritage buildings
but those photos of skulls and bombed-out buildings really got me down.
Thanks though for sharing them.
yes, Eastern Europe with its troubled past, mixed etnical regions can offer some beautiful architectural gems. from its initial humiliating purposes, the skulls actually became a proud reminder of the Serbian Uprising and the Serbian partisans who fought the Turks and were executed.
so, in a morbid way it's a positive reminder i guess.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #84
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Old December 29th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #85
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Did you like Skopje?
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Old December 30th, 2012, 12:24 AM   #86
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it's great to see the Eastern Bloc through photos. There are lots of beautiful heritage buildings
but those photos of skulls and bombed-out buildings really got me down.
Thanks though for sharing them.
Yugoslavia was not the ''eastern bloc''.
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Yugoslavia was not the ''eastern bloc''.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 02:42 PM   #88
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Yugoslavia was not the ''eastern bloc''.
what I know is that upto the 80's/90's, the continent was divided into western Europe (which include up north the Scandinavian countries, Germany, Austria down to Greece and west of these countries and the Eastern Europe is the east side of the countries I mentioned which ar the communist/socialist countries.

BTW, nice thread though, I regularly check this.

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Old December 30th, 2012, 07:03 PM   #89
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While still being a communist state, it's safe to say that Yugoslavia was not part of the Eastern Bloc, only being under direct Soviet influence until 1948, when relations between Tito and Stalin broke down. Also never being a member of the Warsaw Pact, more so the Yugoslav Army was prepared for both a western (NATO) and eastern (Warsaw Pact) invasion. Relations between the two countries "normalized" after Stalin's death, but were never the same as in the first post war years.
Generally the term "Eastern Bloc" referred to the Soviet satellite states and members of the Pact.

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Old December 30th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #90
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Did you like Skopje?

yep, Skopje came as a positive surprise to me. I loved the fact that it's not yet touristy, the bazaar is really nice and people were really friendly. Entrance to the fortress was closed, i don't know if it's because of restoration work or is it always closed, but maybe next time
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Old December 30th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #91
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my hostel and the surrounding streets, which at first didn't look that welcoming when i arrived at night in pitch black

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Old December 31st, 2012, 02:42 AM   #92
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what I know is that upto the 80's/90's, the continent was divided into western Europe (which include up north the Scandinavian countries, Germany, Austria down to Greece and west of these countries and the Eastern Europe is the east side of the countries I mentioned which ar the communist/socialist countries.
communist country =/= eastern bloc.

Yugoslavia is one of the founders of non-aligment movement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement
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Old December 31st, 2012, 09:38 AM   #93
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bilingual Macedonian and Albanian sign on the post office

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Old December 31st, 2012, 08:38 PM   #94
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Old January 1st, 2013, 02:30 PM   #95
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Cool pics of Belgrade, Nis and Skopje! Lovely! It's interesting to see Skopje now, I was there last in 2006.

I'm especially looking forward to the pics of Georgia and Armenia. I have been wanting to visit those countries for many years now.
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Old January 1st, 2013, 10:53 PM   #96
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Nice and interesting tour, I must admit I am pretty impressed by Skopje, Belgrade has a great potential but it's a long way, I can't wait to see the rest of your enjoying trip!
For some folks over here I need to remind them that the Balkan region was dominated for centuries by the Otoman Empire with deep influences in everyday life and culture of the many people living there, from my point of view, these influences are bad but I hope, with the joining the EU, in the future we will see new faces of the Balkan region.
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Cool pics of Belgrade, Nis and Skopje! Lovely! It's interesting to see Skopje now, I was there last in 2006.

I'm especially looking forward to the pics of Georgia and Armenia. I have been wanting to visit those countries for many years now.
thank you! skopje is changing due to the huge skopje 2014 project, new statues, buildings popping up, so a couple of things probably differ from 2006. still a long way to go till the georgian and armenian pics....hope it's worth the wait

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Nice and interesting tour, I must admit I am pretty impressed by Skopje, Belgrade has a great potential but it's a long way, I can't wait to see the rest of your enjoying trip!
For some folks over here I need to remind them that the Balkan region was dominated for centuries by the Otoman Empire with deep influences in everyday life and culture of the many people living there, from my point of view, these influences are bad but I hope, with the joining the EU, in the future we will see new faces of the Balkan region.

yep skopje is very interresting and i'm only at the beginning of the "city tour" so keep on watching!thanks
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So a couple of words about this big project called Skopje 2014. It's a huge construction project, consisting of construction of museums and government buildings, erection of monuments depicting historical figures from Macedonia. Around 20 buildings and over 40 monuments are planned to be constructed. It's financed mainly by the country's ruling party, it's purpose is to give Skopje a more classical look by the year 2014. The project kicked off in 2010, but some construction began as early as 2007 (National Theatre). The 1963 earthquake, with a 6.1 magnitude, destroyed a big part of the city and the reconstruction following the disaster saw mostly socialist buildings being erected, the city losing it's former neoclassical appeal. Part of this project, buildings that were destroyed or damaged then are being built or reconstructed, like the
the national theatre, the old city hall, and Kale Fortress.
Criticism of the project is focused on it's gigantic cost, some say kitsch new buildings, antiquisation policy of the government by depicting historical figures via big oversized statues(Alexander the Great or his father Philip II of Macedon), which only fuel the already long standing conflict with Greece over the "Macedonia" name dispute. According to some it will restore a missing sense of national pride, others say it's nationalism with bad taste. The construction sites depicted below are part of the project, including the new Art Bridge with its 29 sculptures leading to the new Financial Police Building. While the government claims the project will cost about 80 million euros, the opposition maintains that the actual price will be more like 500 million euros. So...whichever side your on, whoever you believe it doesn't matter just enjoy the pics

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The columns of the new Museum of Archaeology, in the middle the recently completed and established Museum of the Macedonian Struggle, with the new National Theatre in the background. The theatre was destroyed in '63

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Old January 2nd, 2013, 02:52 AM   #99
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I must say...

You are a good photographer with a good camera... you have the eye for great shots and sceneries...

just to add...

The current estimated (calculated)* amount of the project Skopje 2014 is EUR 310 018 000.

*due to known sources, everything that might be hidden or missed is not included in the calculations.
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Aldo, what camera do you use and which lens/lenses? Sorry if this was already asked before.
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