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Old March 3rd, 2017, 11:43 PM   #1081
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Three carriers becoming or have become ex-A340 operators Cathay Pacific, China Airlines and Finnair.

While Syrian Air will become the newest A340 operator with a single 300 series.
Kuwait Airways will also end A340 ops in August.

Shaheen Air are phasing out their A330-300 fleet, only one left of the three they had, second one to go was flown from Karachi to Kansas via Amsterdam yesterday, but more A330-200s are planned to be added to replace them.
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Old March 5th, 2017, 01:11 PM   #1082
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We know since last year that Airbus is seriously thinking about increasing the A330NEO's MTOW from the current 242t to 245t or even more. Does anybody have an idea how a A330-900 with a 245t MTOW would compare range wise to a 238t A330-200. From my calculations such a A330-900 HGW would be at roughly 6850, so just 50nm less than the official specification for the 238t A330-200,, but probably such a A330-900 would only be able to do that with a lower payload than the A330-200.

The reason I am wondering is because it would be interesting to know if a A330-900 with such an increased MTOW could fly BUE-MAD with a decent payload, which is doable for the 238t A330-200. We discussed a few pages back about Aerolνneas (who do EZE-MAD on a daily basis with their 238t A330-200) being a candidate for the A330NEO, but at only six orders overall the A330-800 doesn't look like a good investment for other airlines or lessors right now.

In any case it΄s incredible how even the current A330CEOs have evolved since the very early A330-300 and -200 from the nineties.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 12:22 AM   #1083
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PIA once again are leasing a single A333 this time from Turkish Airlines, the one from Sri Lankan was returned to the carrier last week, in 2015 they had leased two from Air Asia X for Hajj flights and domestic operations.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 05:07 AM   #1084
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PIA once again are leasing a single A333 this time from Turkish Airlines, the one from Sri Lankan was returned to the carrier last week, in 2015 they had leased two from Air Asia X for Hajj flights and domestic operations.
If PIA is serious in improving its revenue stream, perhaps adding a few A330s to complement its current B777 aircraft may be necessary, especially if it wants to strengthen its core routes and open new ones in the region. It may have been a few years since it retired the A310, but I believe a mid-sized aircraft in between the A320 and B777 may be necessary to develop a stronger network. It's great that PIA will get B788s soon to augment the B777s for long haul flights, but I believe the A330 would be perfect for the airline in the long run.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:15 AM   #1085
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In any case it΄s incredible how even the current A330CEOs have evolved since the very early A330-300 and -200 from the nineties.
The A330 models originally had these ranges:

A330-300: 5,400 nm
A330-200: 6,400 nm

Now, the higher MTOW versions now offer:

A330-300: 6,250 nm
A330-200: 7,250 nm

I believe the range for the A330neo versions are:

A330-900neo: 6,550 nm
A330-800neo: 7,550 nm
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Old March 7th, 2017, 08:13 PM   #1086
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If PIA is serious in improving its revenue stream, perhaps adding a few A330s to complement its current B777 aircraft may be necessary, especially if it wants to strengthen its core routes and open new ones in the region. It may have been a few years since it retired the A310, but I believe a mid-sized aircraft in between the A320 and B777 may be necessary to develop a stronger network. It's great that PIA will get B788s soon to augment the B777s for long haul flights, but I believe the A330 would be perfect for the airline in the long run.
PIA ended A310 just a couple of months back, they were supposed to go for 787s swapped with their 77W order but nothing came of it, two more A330s from TK might join the fleet so it could be they will be filling the gap temporarily.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 08:23 PM   #1087
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PIA ended A310 just a couple of months back, they were supposed to go for 787s swapped with their 77W order but nothing came of it, two more A330s from TK might join the fleet so it could be they will be filling the gap temporarily.
If PIA gets good revenue out of the A330, then it may be best to get it soon. Perhaps it can have all 3 classes on board to make the riding population satisfied (J, Y+, and Y), and I believe it is an appropriate replacement to the A310.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 07:08 PM   #1088
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IAG launch a new Long Haul LCC named Level with 2 A330s initially. Also based in Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39301239
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Old March 23rd, 2017, 12:47 PM   #1089
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Whats the update on A330Neo and A330 Baluga XL ?
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Old March 24th, 2017, 02:04 AM   #1090
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which month will be the first flight of a330neo?
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Old March 26th, 2017, 11:52 PM   #1091
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IAG launch a new Long Haul LCC named Level with 2 A330s initially. Also based in Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39301239
Not sure if this is a good thing.

Personally, id have liked to have seen BA use 50 A330s for medium haul 4-7 hour routes and create more capacity at LHR and LGW as well to free up some A320s for more European Exclusive and British flights from Manchester, Edinburgh and Glasgow and have even 4 or 5 A319s or A320s from each airport. Thus meaning that 'British' Airways would be a true British Airways and not centralised around the LHR/LGW hub area, and also allow them to have better connections to other airports.

Even give Iberia 20 A330 for the same thing to free up A320s from Madrid and Barcelona and get 5 or 6 for Are Lingus and another 3 or 4 for Veuling as well. They would also replace the ageing 767s as well. That would only leave the BA 747 replacements as the elephant in their fleet room.

I also think it would allow them to jack some of the prices to LHR/LGW as well on some routes on scarcity of seat availability. Also allow them more people going through T5 and LGW as well. Also the decentralised routes would also be able to interact with the hubs via the One World network, which could also bring One World partners into those hubs as well.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 12:06 AM   #1092
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Thus meaning that 'British' Airways would be a true British Airways and not centralised around the LHR/LGW hub area, and also allow them to have better connections to other airports.
True. MAN is the 20th largest airport in Europe and BA is almost invisible there.
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True. MAN is the 20th largest airport in Europe and BA is almost invisible there.
It poses the question about BA for me, as if i was to look at the flag carrier for other nations like Al Italia, who has a hub and a secondary hub in a second city. All BA has is is LHR and LGW and is effectively London Airways.

Ive always said that when it comes to the expansion of LHR, that BA be forced for 99 years from the day of opening of the 3rd runway be forced to have 5 based aircraft at the 2 or 3 busiest airports ran by other companies other than Heathrow Airports Group or Gatwick Airport Limited. So have routes for BA that are based from Manchester or Edinburgh (Leave Manchester Airports Group to decide what airport they want those routed based from), Birmingham and Glasgow.

BA needs many new routes from decentralised airports in the UK, they need 5 A320s at BHI/GLA to fly 10 new European routes (3 to 3.5 hour flight time) that are not served from those airports, and MAN needs maybe 8 or 10 A320 for flying around 16-20 new routes (3 to 3.5 hours flight time) as well. Id also think about allowing MAN to have 4 or 5 flights from EDI as well, also allowing BA to increase their landing slots in a new T5 for basing a A330 or a B787 there as well for a new long haul route or two from New York and LAX if they can be established.

The more that air carriers decentralise from the congested hubs, the more that aircraft like the A330 will be ordered as the big A380s are good to/from hubs, but in the next era of decentralisation of hubs, the A330 and mid sized aircraft will be the next big explosion in aviation i think. Point to point travel avoiding the hubs will be where air carriers will see their profits increase, however they will need to get out of their entrenched bolt holes in order for this to work, especially in Europe where the large hub is still king.
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Old April 1st, 2017, 06:29 PM   #1094
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If PIA gets good revenue out of the A330, then it may be best to get it soon. Perhaps it can have all 3 classes on board to make the riding population satisfied (J, Y+, and Y), and I believe it is an appropriate replacement to the A310.
PIA have cancelled A333 lease from Turkish Airlines.

Shaheen Air have ended A333 operations, last aircraft was ferried some days back to US.
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Chinese LCC Lucky Air are taking on three A333s their first wide bodies.
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someone answer my question in post #1089 please Thank You in Advance !
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I know the first flight of a330neo is 2017, but I don't know the month
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Airbus is awaiting the delayed delivery of the RR engines for the A330neo.
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Etihad are to end A346 ops this year.

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