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View Poll Results: Do you want to live in a mixed-use skyscraper or does it have to be totally residential?
Totally residential 10 13.51%
Mixed use 27 36.49%
I don't care 37 50.00%
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Old January 4th, 2013, 01:26 AM   #21
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I wouldn't mind as long as access is well planned, privacy is well maintained and security is provided 24/7..
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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:05 PM   #22
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Old January 5th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #23
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I guess there would be separate lifts for the different users.
There are actuaally .... although, why would you be taking the lift to throw your garbage? All towers have chutes
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Old January 5th, 2013, 12:51 PM   #24
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Anyway, it depends also on the local regulations. Here for example (Dubai) you can't locate a bussiness in a residential building ... unless all amenties (i.e. entrances, elevators) are separate
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 06:56 AM   #25
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A person could practically prefer a single-use-only building (like office-only or residential-only) rather than a mixed-use building. I wonder what the pros and cons of mixed-use buildings/skyscrapers are, you know, what's good about them, and what's bad about them.
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 07:04 AM   #26
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A person could practically prefer a single-use-only building (like office-only or residential-only) rather than a mixed-use building. I wonder what the pros and cons of mixed-use buildings/skyscrapers are, you know, what's good about them, and what's bad about them.
What's good about mixed-used buildings or complexes is having virtually all of your needs met in one building or complex of build, i.e. being able to live, work, and play all in the same building or complex of buildings that would be a city within itself without residents having to commute. The down side of it for residents is having you share the building you live in with strangers, thus separate entrances and amenities.
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 04:43 PM   #27
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What's good about mixed-used buildings or complexes is having virtually all of your needs met in one building or copmplex of build, i.e. being able to live, work, and play all in the same building or complex of buildings that would be a city within itself without residents having to commute.
To live and work in the same building only happens if your employer is based in the same building as you chose to live. But I can just not imagine wanting to bump into my colleagues on my days off. It's actually quite nice to have something of a walking or biking distance between where you live and work.

Mixed use is not about "mixing" housing with offices with hotels as these tend to mix badly. It's about either one of these usages and mix them with urban amenities that outsiders can use as well, like a gym club in a residential building or a bar in a hotel one.
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To live and work in the same building only happens if your employer is based in the same building as you chose to live.
I think this goes without saying.

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But I can just not imagine wanting to bump into my colleagues on my days off.
This isn't exactly a pleasant prospect for me either, but at present, my coworkers are all over the country.

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It's actually quite nice to have something of a walking or biking distance between where you live and work.
Well, I work at home, and to me, that's even nicer. I can work naked if I want to.

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Mixed use is not about "mixing" housing with offices with hotels as these tend to mix badly. It's about either one of these usages and mix them with urban amenities that outsiders can use as well, like a gym club in a residential building or a bar in a hotel one.
I don't like the idea of living in a building that is also a hotel myself, but I always thought the ideal of a mixed-use structure was to create a self-contained city-within-a-city where virtually all of an individuals needs are met within a building or complex of buildings, therefore cutting down on commuter traffic and urban sprawl encroaching on ecosystems, animal habitats, and wetlands that store up fresh water with the earth's ever increasing human population. I see it as an idealistic and futuristic concept that is virtually impossible to achieve, like cities floating in the clouds, but I like buildings or complexes that come as close to this possible. I'd like to hear which buildings people have in mind that come as close as possibe.

I think Brickell CityCentre under construction here in Miami is a good example of what I'm talking about. Here we have three condos and a hotel over 150 meters tall sitting on top of a mall. There are also two office buildings just under 100 meters tall. The supertall will be a mixed-use structure incorporating offices, a hotel, and condominiums. The mixed-used supertall, One Brickell CityCentre, has now become my most desired place to live in Miami once its completed.

I think the John Hancock Center in Chicago is a good example of this and was one of the first:
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The building is home to offices and restaurants, as well as about 700 condominiums, and contains the third highest residence (above adjacent ground level) in the world, after the Trump Tower (also in Chicago), and the Burj Khalifa (in Dubai).[9]
It also has retail at the base.

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Old February 3rd, 2014, 07:59 AM   #29
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Also, nowadays, it looks like every new hotel project is just the hotel being put in the same building as either office space and/or residential units. So you can't really have any proposals for new standalone hotel buildings, especially large ones (with 400 units or more).
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 12:17 PM   #30
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Also, nowadays, it looks like every new hotel project is just the hotel being put in the same building as either office space and/or residential units. So you can't really have any proposals for new standalone hotel buildings, especially large ones (with 400 units or more).
In today's economy, it seems mixed-use is the way to go for a lot of developers especially if we want to continue to see very tall skyscrapers. It seems it's becoming increasingly more difficult to have very tall towers be either all residential, or all offices, or all hotel. So many people on this website talk about density, density, density. Density is meaningless unless people have most of what they need in close proximity. Good mixed-use projects provide this. This is what is truly good density.
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Old February 11th, 2014, 04:51 AM   #31
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It depends on the rules of the condominium mixed use. I demand silence and environment without odors. Anyway, it would be interesting to have shops, hotel and a subway close to me.
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Old May 25th, 2014, 02:54 AM   #32
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When we're within a mixed-use building, do we end up disturbing other tenants within said building, accidentally or not? For example:

Office tenants disturbing residential tenants
Hotel guests disturbing residential tenants
Vice versa (residential tenants disturbing office tenants, hotel guests or both)
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Old May 25th, 2014, 09:00 AM   #33
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It depends on the building and what amentities the condo owners are willing to share with hotel guests like the pool. If you have a separate entrance for the hotel guests/office tenants and for residents. I don't see much of a problem. They will only come into contact with each other down at the pool.
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I prefer mixed use so when in need I can go downstairs to the supermarket, post office, dentist or whatever it may be...

just residential is boring
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Old December 27th, 2015, 02:19 PM   #35
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I agree. Amenities like these are very useful. Living and working in the same building is less attractive perhaps, but bumping into collegues during a day off should be avoided by using separate entrances and elevators for inhabitants and offices.
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i've done it in the 80s, although I was still young. it was great.
located in the down town area.. at the bottom of the building was a drug store and several restaurants. my room was near the top with a great view.

the only problem was coming home late, since it was down town there were sketchy people at that hour. you don't want them following you in.
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Mixed use as in ground floor for commercial use, convenient store, a dry cleaner and such, mid levels for garage and residential amenities, pool deck, gym, etc and higher floors for residents.

No mix of hotel or office.
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By "disturbing other tenants", I meant some hotel's guest getting on the elevator and ending up on the wrong floor, mainly an office or residential floor, hence the potential for trespassing.

Because of this, I don't know if I would feel comfortable living in a mixed-use building, or staying in a hotel that is part of such a building.
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I wouldn't mind a mixed-use, as long as I don't run into ConocoPhillips employees all day long.
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