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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #21
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Are they building such towers for prestige mainly? Is it fashionable for all the smaller cities to have a tower like this, because it doesn't Appear that there is any need to go so tall.

It seems tome that all the smaller cities are playing a game and competing for attention, but I could be totally wrong,

Chinese people must love these type of developments and see them as prestigious.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #22
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implying Hefei is a smaller City.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #23
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implying Hefei is a smaller City.
What is your problem. Yes, smaller than chinas primary cities, and your point is?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 01:04 AM   #24
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Smaller than chinas primary cities, so? It's still an important city, capital of a province of 60 million, and is positioned in a strategic location just next to the Yangtze River Delta region power house.

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As rising wages and costs sap growth in the coastal centers that led China’s 30-year export boom, Hefei’s 15.4 percent expansion last year puts it in the vanguard of a new tier of inland powerhouses.

While Premier Wen Jiabao has set a national growth target of 7.5 percent this year, Hefei is aiming for 15 percent

Hefei’s got all the attributes investors need: land, energy and labor resources, rich education, ports nearby, talented workers and a huge consumer market on its doorstep.

Unilever (UNA), headquartered in London and Rotterdam, has shifted seven factories to Hefei from Shanghai and plans to make the city its largest global manufacturing center.

At least 25 more of the world’s 500 biggest companies, including Zurich-based ABB Ltd. (ABB) and Japan’s Hitachi Ltd., have factories in the city. That’s helped give Hefei a growth rate almost 70 percent higher than the 9.2 percent average for the country and almost double the 8.2 percent in Shanghai, China’s financial capital.

Continental and Unilever also cite the quality of Hefei’s colleges, such as the University of Science and Technology of China, ranked the third best in the nation by Britain’s Times newspaper in 2011-2012.

Companies moving to Hefei from Shanghai can lower costs while still retaining access to the coast via the nearby Yangtze River, new highways, and a rail link that cuts the journey time to China’s business capital to as little as 2 hours and 23 minutes.

Hefei’s 5.7 million population is bigger than Singapore’s while the surrounding province is home to almost 60 million, more than Spain. About half of China’s economic output and more than 40 percent of its consumer market are within 500 kilometers of Hefei, according to consulting company KPMG.

The city’s appeal helped foreign investment rise 16 percent last year to $1.8 billion while overall investment, mostly from eastern coastal areas, surged 30 percent to 170.3 billion yuan ($26.9 billion), according to the Hefei Investment Promotion Bureau. Exports leapt 34 percent to $7.82 billion, exceeding nationwide growth of 20.3 percent.

“China’s map is in the shape of a rooster and Hefei is in the front, the breast area, the place with the most good meat,” said bureau director Sun Lianghong. Hefei’s economy, about the size of Ecuador’s at $57 billion last year, is expected to double by 2015, he said.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 01:11 AM   #25
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Keep in mind, its still bigger than most cities around the world (especially American cities) that are building supertalls.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 03:39 AM   #26
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Good design.

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Old January 11th, 2013, 03:36 PM   #27
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This is Anhui's only large city. A province with a population similar to Italy, France or UK. Of course this city deserves this project!
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More than 300 supertall projects on going in China.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:26 PM   #28
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I never said they didn't deserve it, lol. Anyway, population is hardly the primary factor. If so, cities all over the world much bigger than this one and with much bigger GDPs would have much taller towers and be full of mega talls, but many don't have a supertall at all.

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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:33 PM   #29
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Hefei is bigger than Houston. It's high time these cities get skylines that reflect their size and importance.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #30
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Hefei is bigger than Houston. It's high time these cities get skylines that reflect their size and importance.
Shouldn't build for such emotional reasons though, it is poor urbanism and poor economics. Must only build if the demand warrants it and economics say that it is a sound investment.

As an aside, since you brought it up...

I really hope they don't follow Houston's atrocious urban planning though, lol. That would be a mistake. Empty lots everywhere. Building tall towers in the suburbs wasn't what houston should have been focusing on back then sorry to say.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 09:23 PM   #31
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This supertall will be build by Evergrande and its their money.

In China, population is a huge factor and that is why they build up, not out.

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Well Hefei has all that...so why the fuss?

This supertall, if goes ahead, won't be finished this year or the next but it will be finished probably in 2018 or beyond.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #32
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Now they are even building 500m+ supertalls in Hefei???

I've actually been there 2 years ago and it was certainly the poorest and least developed provincial capital I ever visited in China. Is there honestly a demand for those kind of buildings there?
You answered your question already ... Chinese love to cover up poverty and corruption in their big cities, and what's better than new shiny supertalls? On the surface everything's is pretty and clean, as a tourist you barely see the real China. Speaking from my own experience I'm surprised you weren't escorted by some government officials, they usually don't want tourists to experience the "whole thing".
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Old January 11th, 2013, 11:49 PM   #33
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"Chinese" makes speeches about fighting corruption and lifting poverty in many of their speeches. These issues are well known and a common knowledge within the Chinese society already. Now what are you going to said about a city that is one of the poorest in terms of per capital income (a mere $22,957) in the United States, building skyscrapers? There were a lot of praises there. And for your information, 46.2 Million American are in poverty, so why the need for all these skyscrapers in the states too when the whole country is growing at barely 1-2% with trillions of debt and billion dollar wars? hiding too? I'm not going to mention the situations in the south.

Let's just be clear here. Evergrande is building it, NOT the Communist party and it will be probably completed (if it goes ahead) in distanced future of 4-6 years when demands further spiked. I also believe there are reasons for skyscrapers in Miami and other places too where I'm sure are also growing at double digits.

If the Chinese are building these, just to go bankrupt later, then some of you should be happy and would want to see more of them built..don't you? I'm sensing a lot of jealousy from my fellow Americans. tsk.

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Old January 12th, 2013, 12:00 AM   #34
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"Chinese" makes speeches about fighting corruption and lifting poverty in many of their speeches. These issues are well known and a common knowledge within the Chinese society already. Now what are you going to said about a city that is one of the poorest in terms of per capital income (a mere $22,957) in the United States, building skyscrapers? There were a lot of praises there. And for your information, 46.2 Million American are in poverty, so why the need for all these skyscrapers in the states too when the whole country is growing at barely 1-2% with trillions of debt and billion dollar wars? hiding too? I'm not going to mention the situations in the south.

Let's just be clear here. Evergrande is building it, NOT the Communist party and it will be probably completed (if it goes ahead) in distanced future of 4-6 years when demands further spiked. I also believe there are reasons for skyscrapers in Miami and other places too where I'm sure are also growing at double digits.

If the Chinese are building these, just to go bankrupt later, then some of you should be happy and would want to see more of them built..don't you? I'm sensing a lot of jealousy from my fellow Americans. tsk.
hate to interupt your babbling but who here is wishing any harm on any other country lol i dont see why you think americans want china to fail lol wow china has taller buildings then us...lets all go cry in a corner and wish it goes bankrupt..its not like that
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Old January 12th, 2013, 12:03 AM   #35
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Taller building doesn't mean anything and you shouldn't cry.

We are here to see development of countries from the perspective of skyscrapers and etc,. I'm mean isn't this what this forum is about?

Let's just end these kinds of talks here.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 12:05 AM   #36
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Taller building doesn't mean anything and you shouldn't cry.
that was my point..its called sarcasm
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Old January 12th, 2013, 12:07 AM   #37
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Old January 12th, 2013, 03:50 AM   #38
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Speaking from my own experience I'm surprised you weren't escorted by some government officials, they usually don't want tourists to experience the "whole thing".
I really doubt you've ever been to China (or your visit is already some decades ago). You know that China isn't North Korea, don't you?
Tell me...Why should a private developer like Evergrande have any interest in covering up poverty? Their only interest is profit.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 07:53 AM   #39
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I really doubt you've ever been to China (or your visit is already some decades ago). You know that China isn't North Korea, don't you?
Tell me...Why should a private developer like Evergrande have any interest in covering up poverty? Their only interest is profit.
A bit off topic to this thread but I visited China for a month in 2010 and went to many non-tourist areas of cities and not once was I stopped by any official or escorted to any place. I usually took the subway (example: Shanghai) and got off at the last stop, walked around the neighborhood, found a restaurant to eat at. Everyone was cool. Anyway back on topic I'd like to know which part of Hefei this tower is located. I haven't visited Hefei yet.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #40
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They don't build this heigh because the whole city of Hefei is densely build.
It could just as easy be 3 150m towers.
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