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Old March 4th, 2015, 05:59 PM   #681
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Landing of PK-LBQ at Bandara Babullah, Ternate, Indonesia.
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And here PK-CLF, a fake 737NG..... (735).
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Old March 12th, 2015, 01:06 PM   #682
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Leeham Co. has revealed that Boeing is working on a long range version of the 737-8 MAX. The plane, which is still only a concept is called 737-8ERX and will be competing with the Airbus A321LR.

http://leehamnews.com/2015/03/12/dra...nse-to-a321lr/

On this picture you can see what Boeing plans to do with the 737-8 to give it the extra range. Many specific features of the 737-9 will be incorporated in this 737-8 sized plane.




Leehamnews analysis reveals thet even though the 737-8ERX will be much smaller then, and will have a EIS 2 years after the A321LR, it will have a very good economics per seat.


It's going to be very interesting to be used on thin medium haul routes. It will be interesting for an airline like Norwegian, who are already looking into flying transatlantic with the standard 737-8 MAX. Basically for any 737 operator that uses the maximum range of 737-800. That's a big enough market for Boeing to actually launch this concept.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:27 PM   #683
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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #684
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When They going to start production of b737max ?
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Old March 13th, 2015, 12:52 AM   #685
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First parts are in production since last quarter of 2014. The fuselage is expected to be shipped to Boeing’s Renton around the end of the second quarter in 2015. The first flight is expected before mid-2016. And first delivery to Southwest is expected in 2017.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 09:27 AM   #686
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It is one of the few comercial planes that still preserve the original fuselage design from his first decade of flight back to 60s.

With 737max it going to preserve its original design for at least 2 decades more i believe.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 10:02 AM   #687
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Old March 13th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #688
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It is one of the few comercial planes that still preserve the original fuselage design from his first decade of flight back to 60s.

With 737max it going to preserve its original design for at least 2 decades more i believe.
Actually, the B737 fuselage design comes from the 50s, because it's almost the same as the B707.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 03:38 PM   #689
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Old March 13th, 2015, 11:11 PM   #690
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Actually, the B737 fuselage design comes from the 50s, because it's almost the same as the B707.
True! They share the nose, same as 777 and 767.

But 707 it is not in service any more.
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No, 767 and 777 have different noses and fuselages. But B707, B727 and B737 have exactly the same nose and the same fuselage section.
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No, 767 and 777 have different noses and fuselages. But B707, B727 and B737 have exactly the same nose and the same fuselage section.
767 and 777 shares the same nose, called "section 41"

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Old March 15th, 2015, 08:41 PM   #694
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Confusion all around. If you read back you can see how it can be interpreted in several ways. To be absolutely clear the 707/727/737 share a nose, but it's different to the nose that is shared between the 767/777.


ps. there still a couple of 707s in operation, but not as many as the KC-135 Stratotanker which was developed in parallel with the 707 from the shared prototype. The KC-135 also has the same fuselage and nose as the 737.
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Old March 18th, 2015, 10:47 AM   #695
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I'm hoping the pressure in the 757 replacement market finally pushes Boeing to come out with a completely new narrowbody design. While they've pushed the 737 design hard, and with a good degree of success, the fact that they can't use it to really replace the 757 shows some (if not all) of it's shortcomings.

At some point, they're going to have to bite this bullet.
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I'm hoping the pressure in the 757 replacement market finally pushes Boeing to come out with a completely new narrowbody design. While they've pushed the 737 design hard, and with a good degree of success, the fact that they can't use it to really replace the 757 shows some (if not all) of it's shortcomings.

At some point, they're going to have to bite this bullet.
I dont think boeing builds a redesigned 757.... you dont completely rebuild / redesign a plane just to build 200 to 500 planes niche market.

Its kind of like what the A380 is going through. Airbus wont build the NEO just for 200 380 NEOs. They would have to have more of a commitment from airlines (other then Emirates) just to make it cost effective.
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I don't think they'd build a new narrowbody just for the 757 market. It's the fact that the existing 737 doesn't have the capability to be extended to cover this market (among other things) shows that the 737 is hitting the wall in terms of how far the design can be pushed. That being the case, maybe it's time to design a new narrowbody that would replace both the 737 and 757, having the ability to cover the entire range built into the design.

There are other weaknesses in the 737 design, which is why the A320 line outsells it. In fact Airbus was able to come up with a better replacement for the 757 based on the A321 than Boeing can do with the 737 shows that the A320 is the better basic design.

Boeing has gotten over 50 years out of the basic 737 architecture. It's time for them to come up with something new.

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I dont think boeing builds a redesigned 757.... you dont completely rebuild / redesign a plane just to build 200 to 500 planes niche market.

Its kind of like what the A380 is going through. Airbus wont build the NEO just for 200 380 NEOs. They would have to have more of a commitment from airlines (other then Emirates) just to make it cost effective.
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By the way, I read that CFM International is running into serious problems with the LEAP-1B engine for the 737 MAX--the specific fuel consumption (SFC) was 4-6% higher than expected. They may have to extensively redesign the compressor and combustor stages to fix this problem.
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