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Old January 8th, 2016, 07:53 AM   #941
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Boeing Booked 33 new 737 orders in the last week of 2015.

They also had to cancel 8 orders.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries

breakdown:
BBJ - 1x 737 MAX
Unidentified Customer(s) - 12x 737-800 (30-12-2015)
Unidentified Customer(s) - 19x 737 MAX (31-12-2015)
Unidentified Customer(s) - 1x 737-900ER (31-12-2015)


Breakdown of the orders from the previous order update:

This was known:
Unidentified: 143x 737s (Probably China Southern + some more)

Unidentified Customer(s) - 30x 737-800 (China Southern) (17-12-2015)
Unidentified Customer(s) - 50x 737 MAX (China Southern) (17-12-2015)
Unidentified Customer(s) - 33x 737-800 (?) (22-12-2015)
Unidentified Customer(s) - 20x 737 MAX (?) (22-12-2015)
Unidentified Customer(s) - 10x 737 MAX (?) (23-12-2015)

737 Order total 2015
Gross: 666
Net: 588

Total MAX orders 2015: 409

Total MAX orders: 3,072

Backlog of the 737NG: 1,320


Deliveries in 2015: 495
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Old January 12th, 2016, 08:29 AM   #942
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Some 737s I've seen lately from San Francisco:

Alaska Airlines B737-800 (Scimitar WL) (reg. N548AS)


IMG_7704 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

American Airlines B737-800 (WL) (reg. N821NN)


IMG_8013 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

Southwest Airlines B737-300 (WL), old livery (reg. N368SW)


IMG_7845 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

Southwest Airlines B737-700 (WL), new livery (reg. N732SW)


IMG_7975 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

United Airlines B737-800 (Scimitar WL) (reg. N27205)


IMG_7986 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

United Airlines B737-900ER (Scimitar WL) (reg. N38424)


IMG_7693 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

And here are two B737 aircraft in one image:

- Alaska Airlines B737-900 (reg. N303AS)
- United Airlines B737-800 (Scimitar WL) (reg. N73256)


IMG_8042 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr
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Old January 14th, 2016, 12:12 AM   #943
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Aercap announced their 1st 737 MAX deal. The taker is the Czech leisure airline Travel Service who already 3 737-8s directly on order with Boeing. Travel Service currently operate over 30 737s.

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AerCap Executes First Placement of Ten 737 MAX 8s to Travel Service

13 January 2016

Aircraft Will Support the Carrier's Fleet Renewal and Expansion

Amsterdam, The Netherlands; January 13, 2016 - AerCap Holdings N.V. ("AerCap", NYSE: AER) today announced that the company has executed the first placement of ten Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft from its order book. Leased to Travel Service, AerCap's long-time customer and the Czech Republic's biggest airline company, the aircraft are part of AerCap's order of 100 737 MAXs placed in June 2015 with deliveries starting in 2019. AerCap is Boeing's second largest lessor customer in the 737 MAX program.

"We leased our first 737 to Travel Service in 2000," remarked AerCap President & Chief Commercial Officer Philip Scruggs. "Over the past 16 years, the airline has grown into a regional leader in the Czech Republic and Central European aviation. These 737 MAXs will renew and expand Travel Service's fleet and ensure its leadership over the next decade."

"As our long-time and reliable partner, AerCap helps us expand Travel Service's fleet and contributes to further growth of the company. This agreement stands as a testimony to the extended and successful business cooperation between our companies, which we value greatly," said Roman Vik, General Director of Travel Service. "As Travel Service is expanding and growing, we are convinced that the new Boeing 737 MAX aircraft are great for our airline. The 737 MAXs will bring the most advanced technologies and engines that provide lower fuel and operating costs, as well as a high level of passenger comfort. We are delighted that we will have a competitive advantage on the market because of the new, modern Travel Service's fleet."
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Old January 15th, 2016, 12:21 AM   #944
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News reports claim that United Airlines is close to placing an order for 30 737-700s.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ua...0US27I20160114


United is looking for new 100-seat aircraft. Boeing must be giving them a very good deal on these end of the line 737 NGs. Which are actually quite large for what they are looking for. Their current 737-700 have 118 seats, more then needed. If they place this new order it would be a blow to the competition that actually offer 100 seat aircraft. Especially for Bombardier with the C-Series, these are the kind of orders they need to save the C-Series program from it's current financial disaster. United recently also bought 25 used A319s from China Southern, it seems like they are sticking with the current models instead of going next gen in the smallest segment of their fleet.

But we'll have to wait and see what happens with this order, it's not yet signed on the dotted line.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:49 AM   #945
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Norwegian Long Haul are set to have a go at the US Airlines on those same Transtlantic routes and with their early deliveries of Max 8s which can do UK - East coast with Norwegian 20kg style baggage allowances rather than the 45 kilo plus that United and Delta allow per passenger.

So far they have announced ORK-JFK only ( and with an -800 initially) but I expect plenty more US route announcements ex Western Europe in the next year, certainly for summer 2017.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...antic-network/

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Course if a Max 8 can do it I reckon an A320neo can too, not just the A321neo.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 08:07 AM   #946
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The A320neo even has a bit more range then the 737.


As long a travelers in the winter to the US calculate some delays into their itinerary with the strong Atlantic winds it should be fine. The 757s currently on translantic routes have to regularly make fuel diversions already with more range. As they are mainly targeting leisure travelers this shouldn't be a problem.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 10:06 AM   #947
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The A320neo even has a bit more range then the 737.


As long a travelers in the winter to the US calculate some delays into their itinerary with the strong Atlantic winds it should be fine
Most 757 routes are seasonal (summer) ones and they switch to US-Carribbean routes in winter. I'd say the neo/max generation of Narrows will make EG Oslo-JFK or Edinburgh -JFK all year round daily routes and twice daily in summer.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:20 PM   #948
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Looking at flightaware there are 14 757s right now on route from Europe to the US. United operates them year round on transatlantic flights and they regularly make fuel stops when the winds are too strong.

Even though the routes the 737s will operate will be slightly shorter we have take into account that it also has less range then the 757. But that's probably something that Norwegian knows and will incorporate into their schedules.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:54 PM   #949
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You can refuel in Shannon or Gander if you hit jetstream headwinds westbound. Eastbound is not a problem. Most times you can go around the jetstream but not always, it is very well forecasted nowadays.

For all year round routes like USA-Dublin or Manchester it is often 757 winter and 767 summer.

The max and neo will make these more economic with smaller loads of 180pax instead of the 200 plus a 757 gives you. But mainly east coast Usa to NW Europe.

Ryanair are also looking at EU-US hubbing Dublin from 2019 when they get their Max 200s. Norwegian have 2 years to develop the niche first but will probably avoid a Dublin hub.....but maybe not.

http://www.independent.ie/business/r...-30041321.html

Again they can do direct flights in summer and may only actually hub westbound in winter when the jetstream affects range. Their planes could fly triangle sectors like Hamburg-Dub-JFK-Hamburg in the winter and non stop Hamburg--JFK in summer by way of example.

Ryanair has spare underemployed pilots in Dublin EVERY winter as we all know.
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In preparation for these regular 5 hour + 737 Max Flights Boeing filed this patent last year for a "Sleep Support System"

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4. A sleep support system comprising: a head cushion deployable from a backpack and having a face relief aperture to receive a passenger's face leaving the eyes, nose mount and chin unrestricted when the face is supported by the head cushion; a chest cushion attached to the backpack; a hinged support structure for angular adjustment between said head cushion and said chest cushion, said chest cushion receiving the passenger's chest in a forward leaning position; and, a pair of straps, each said strap having one end attached to an upper end of the backpack and a second end detachably connected to connecting buckles at a lower end of the backpack for placement on a person's shoulders to carry the sleep support system in a folded condition as a backpack; said straps being detachable from said connecting buckles at the lower end of the backpack and adapted to extend over a passenger's shoulders and attach to a transportation vehicle seat by mating fasteners.
Micko will charge you extra for strapping you into the feckin thing and doubleplus extra unless you book it a week before takeoff. He'll even charge the bloke behind you extra if he clips you into it as a favour....if he can make sense of it that is.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:04 AM   #952
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If the 737MAX can do Transatlantic flights at full loads, then it would be an amazing sight to behold. Perhaps that would mean even more flights can be deployed in the process because of the short turnaround times that aircraft can do, and that would mean increased efficiency and better profitability. However, with an already competitive and lucrative market between the East Coast of North America and Europe, would that also mean European carriers may want to explore buying smaller aircraft too to use them on thinner routes than the smallest aircraft they can deploy (e.g. A330, B757)?
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If the 737MAX can do Transatlantic flights at full loads, then it would be an amazing sight to behold.
WHOA, at LCA baggage loads not full baggage allowance. No full service airline with golf clubs n sheeut will try this on.

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However, with an already competitive and lucrative market between the East Coast of North America and Europe, would that also mean European carriers may want to explore buying smaller aircraft too to use them on thinner routes than the smallest aircraft they can deploy (e.g. A330, B757)?
Only LCAs can really do this reliably with Nextgen narrow aircraft. Norwegian and Ryanair are LCAs. Full service airlines will have to use A330/A350/B787 and the traditional aircraft with good baggage capacity.

Most intra EU airlines restrict baggage to around 20KG where tranatlantics traditionally allowed around 50KG. Once you map the LCA model onto the Atlantic you save 30KG x 200pax or 6 tons.

Furthermore you can only really do this on the NORTH Atlantic where there are easy divert opportunities like Gander or Shannon. Mid Atlantic you might not make it.....say Atlanta - Paris or further south where the routes are a lot longer.

You could maybe make Lisbon-JFK westbound in winter with a 787 Max 8 but ONLY if the passengers had hand baggage only.

Ryanair 'explored' Tranatlantics years ago and their CEO promised "business class and blowjobs" Literally. Never happened as the 787-800 would not reliably make it The Video is here . Yes the speaker is none other than Micko himself.

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United has revealed that they are indeed ordering new 737-700 NGs.

But instead of the previously reported 30 it will even be 40.

They will be delivered from 2017 onwards.


United press release (2015 results):
http://newsroom.united.com/2016-01-2...ar-2015-Profit
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Today, UAL announced it would take delivery of 40 new Boeing 737-700 aircraft, which will enter the fleet beginning in mid-2017. These aircraft will replace a portion of the capacity currently operated by the company's regional partners, as the company expects to reduce by more than half the number of 50-seat aircraft in its fleet by 2019.
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The NG's are on sale this week.

After United it's now Southwest Airlines who topped up their order with 33 NGs.

"Thanks to @SouthwestAir for ordering 33 more #Boeing 737-800s. #LUV"

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/...85699350282240

Although this could be this one from the last weeks of 2015:

Unidentified Customer(s) - 33x 737-800 (?) (22-12-2015)


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They have also converted their remaining 25 737-700s on order to the 737-800
.

They have been buying a lot of used 737-700s recently, no need for them to buy more new from Boeing.


~~~~~~~~

Plus confirmation of the United order by Boeing.

"Excited to book an order for 40 #Boeing 737-700s for @united. Busy times in Renton!"

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/...86615319191555


And this order saves the 737-700 backlog, the Southwest conversion would have brought it back to 10, with the United order it's back to 50.
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 02:14 AM   #958
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First flight of Boeing 737 MAX8 scheduled for 29th January 2016
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Who is the LAUNCH Customer for the 737 MAX ???
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Southwest Airlines.

First production frame for them (and first to be delivered) will be LN5852 1A005 N8705Q. They also will take delivery of first 4 test frames 1A001-1A004, these will be re-worked for them after test program end.
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