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Old December 24th, 2016, 05:35 AM   #1301
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@DBarty what is this wasting post '' test 1 2 3 '' ?
He can't post a link b4 10 posts so that's why.
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Old December 24th, 2016, 06:36 AM   #1302
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One of 9air's is already delivered to a new airline "serene air" from Pakistan. .
Yes, I know about that one. 9 Air have 2 other 737s parked at BFI.

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Old December 29th, 2016, 05:56 PM   #1303
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Morning/Afternoon/Evening all,
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on a P-8 question I have.
I have 169011 down as 44953/N958DS/AD52BB which f/f 14/10/16 Renton>BFI, just saw this photo of 169011 carrying N959DS!, other strange thing is on the FAA site N958DS is down as exported to Australia? I came to the assumption that the wrong N reg had been put on it but with the FAA site saying exported to Australia something seems to be very odd. Any insight on this would be gratefully received.

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Old December 30th, 2016, 01:15 PM   #1304
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Morning/Afternoon/Evening all,
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on a P-8 question I have.
I have 169011 down as 44953/N958DS/AD52BB which f/f 14/10/16 Renton>BFI, just saw this photo of 169011 carrying N959DS!, other strange thing is on the FAA site N958DS is down as exported to Australia? I came to the assumption that the wrong N reg had been put on it but with the FAA site saying exported to Australia something seems to be very odd. Any insight on this would be gratefully received.
Interesting discovery.

That sticker reg is wrong. BOE061 (YP061) flew on 14Oct with hex AD52BB which decodes to N958DS = msn 44953 and to become 169011.

BOE183 (YP183) flew on 3Nov with hex AD5672 which decodes to N959DS = msn 62290 and to become A47-003.

I expect the sticker was amended for its first flight.

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Hmm.. Just noticed that the US register shows both frames as cancelled to Australia. Definitely something strange here then. I wonder if there has been a paperwork mix up and they cancelled N958DS to Australia by mistake? I suspect so as the '011' on the tail makes no sense if it was for ASY. Confusing indeed.

Perhaps Woody has some info here?
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Old December 30th, 2016, 02:20 PM   #1305
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Yes scratching my head on it as well, did same, thought wrong reg applied but with the FAA site stating exported to Australia makes you think someone's messed up somewhere!, I cant see how someone would have applied the wrong reg or inputted in the FAA site wrong its a mystery. Also maybe related there's a gap in P-8 releases from Renton between 3rd November > 30th November which seemed odd to me?
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Also the reg cancel date for N958DS was 9th November after it f/f from Renton so would presume it was still a live usable reg at the time of f/f?
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 01:30 PM   #1307
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Apropos Vietjet...again. I still don't believe this order.

http://vietnamnews.vn/society/347525...ted-to-89.html

Vietnams 4 Airlines have had their collective fleet expansions capped by order at less than 25 frames per annum out to 2020.

There is literally nowhere to put any more planes in Vietnam unless they build (large) new airports.

India will also have to apply some similar measures soon and possibly Indonesia too although I confess to know little about that latter country.

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Old January 4th, 2017, 07:45 PM   #1308
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Boeing, GECAS Announce Order for 75 737 MAXs

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SEATTLE, Jan. 4, 2017 – Boeing (NYSE: BA) and GE Capital Aviation Services (GECAS), the commercial aircraft leasing and financing arm of General Electric (NYSE: GE), announced today an order for 75 737 MAX 8 airplanes.

The order, booked in December, is valued at $8.25 billion at current list prices. The follow-on order increases the GECAS firm order book for the 737 MAX to 170 airplanes, the largest of any aircraft leasing company.

“These new orders will enable GECAS to serve our clients’ needs — assisting in managing their fleets, transitioning aircraft and providing new equipment,” said Alec Burger, President and Chief Executive Officer, GECAS. “Our customers want the latest technology and fuel efficiency, and the CFM International LEAP-1B engines on these aircraft deliver outstanding productivity and reliability in the single-aisle market.”

“When it comes to demand, this order shows the MAX 8 remains at the heart of the single-aisle market,” said Brad McMullen, vice president, North America and Leasing Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. “We appreciate the confidence GECAS has in the 737 MAX, and look forward to seeing the airplanes placed with carriers all over the world.”

To date, the 737 MAX has accumulated 3,419 orders, making it the fastest-selling airplane in Boeing history.
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/GECAS-Orders-75-737-MAXs
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Old January 4th, 2017, 10:59 PM   #1309
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Would anyone happen to have the correct msns for YP064 (6160) and YP065 (6189) please?
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Gap filling only and cannot confirm,
YP064/(169326), L/N 6160
YP065/(169327), L/N 6189 c/n62299?

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Old January 5th, 2017, 02:09 PM   #1311
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Czech airline to receive 30 direct purchased and leased 737 MAX airplanes starting in 2018

PRAGUE, Jan. 4, 2017 – Boeing (NYSE: BA) and Travel Service, the Czech airline company that operates scheduled flights under the SmartWings brand, has finalized an order for five 737 8 MAX airplanes, valued at $550 million at current list prices.

Travel Service previously placed an order for three 737 MAXs at the Paris Air Show in 2013 and currently operates a mixed fleet that includes 32 737s.

"We are pleased to add more 737 MAXs to our original order and we look forward to receiving the first one to become the first airline to operate the 737 MAX in this region," said Roman Vik, Chief Executive Officer, Travel Service.

The 737 MAX incorporates the latest technology CFM International LEAP-1B engines, Advanced Technology winglets and other improvements to deliver the highest efficiency, reliability and passenger comfort in the single-aisle market.

The 737 MAX will be 14 percent more fuel-efficient than today's most efficient Next-Generation 737s – and 20 percent better than the original Next-Generation 737s when they first entered service.

"We are delighted that Travel Service continues to place its faith in our products with this new, increased order for the 737 MAX,” said Monty Oliver, Vice President, European Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "This airplane will be a great addition to its fleet providing the airline with unmatched fuel efficiency and its passengers with superior comfort.”

Travel Service is the largest Czech airline company, operating regular flights under the SmartWings brand, charter flights and private flights in the Business Jet category. Travel Service planes are flying to more than 300 airports on 4 continents. Travel Service is present on market not only in the Czech Republic but also in Slovakia, Poland and Hungary, where the company has its subsidiary companies.
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Boeing's final 2016 order numbers should be announced later today (Thursday Jan 5).
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Old January 5th, 2017, 02:34 PM   #1312
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ICYMI: Boeing will no longer use customer codes on the 737, 747, 767, 777 lines bringing them in alignment with the 737Max & 787 lines. These changes have already been made on the FAA Certificates. The changes are effective with the following Line numbers for each respective Production Line.

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Old January 5th, 2017, 05:23 PM   #1313
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A discussion on airliners.net forum claims that there is evidence Boeing is still using them internally for new build aircraft, but the actual data plate simply shows 737-800, 767-300F now.
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Old January 5th, 2017, 07:05 PM   #1315
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A discussion on airliners.net forum claims that there is evidence Boeing is still using them internally for new build aircraft, but the actual data plate simply shows 737-800, 767-300F now.
That is what I am seeing & hearing as well.
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That is what I am seeing & hearing as well.
Yeah it's a confusing situation at the moment. I have partial access to the vanilla 737-800 internal Boeing data through another source and he has confirmed to me that the most recent listing from November still shows them all as 737-8AS, 737-8H4 etc right out to line # 6341! However as far as the type certificate for registration in their respective country goes, they are now simply 737-800s.

By the way, that table above (presumably pinched from the Puget blog) was taken from the December edition of Aviation Letter magazine. I am in regular comms with the editor and asked him about it. He has told me it is NOT to be taken as a definitive list of which frames the changes occured and has in fact only been compiled based on the official country registration data for the frames listed, ie. it could well be the case that some of the 737s prior to # 6082 are also 'just' 737-800s too.
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Yeah it's a confusing situation at the moment. I have partial access to the vanilla 737-800 internal Boeing data through another source and he has confirmed to me that the most recent listing from November still shows them all as 737-8AS, 737-8H4 etc right out to line # 6341! However as far as the type certificate for registration in their respective country goes, they are now simply 737-800s.



By the way, that table above (presumably pinched from the Puget blog) was taken from the December edition of Aviation Letter magazine. I am in regular comms with the editor and asked him about it. He has told me it is NOT to be taken as a definitive list of which frames the changes occured and has in fact only been compiled based on the official country registration data for the frames listed, ie. it could well be the case that some of the 737s prior to # 6082 are also 'just' 737-800s too.


I'm the one that put that chart together based on info from my Boeing contact and shared it with the Blog.
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Boeing released the order total for December and therefor also for 2016.


Changes since last update: 278 new orders (Business Jet / VIP Customer(s) for one 737, GECAS for 75 737s, Jet 2.com Ltd for four 737s, Travel Service for five 737s, Unidentified Customer(s) for 187 737s

In the changes category, reduced 737 orders by 62

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries


Breakdown of the 737 orders in the last 2 weeks of December:


Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737 MAX CF 22-Dec-2016 5 (should be Travel Service, only identified in 2017)


Jet2.com Ltd United Kingdom Europe 737-800 CF 22-Dec-2016 4

Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737-800 CF 22-Dec-2016 3

Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737 MAX CF 27-Dec-2016 61 (United, conversion of their 737-700 orders that are not listed anymore)

Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737 MAX CF 28-Dec-2016 75 (should be Gecas, only identified in 2017)

Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737 MAX CF 29-Dec-2016 20

Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737 MAX CF 30-Dec-2016 100 (large order, no idea who it is)

Unidentified Customer(s) Unidentified Unidentified 737-800 CF 30-Dec-2016 3



totals:

737 net orders: 16 NG and 534 MAX

737 MAX total: 3605
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Boeing Close to $10.1 Billion Order From India's SpiceJet

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Good News for the 737 Max!!

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January 5, 2017, 4:46 PM MST January 6, 2017, 6:48 AM MST

Pact with SpiceJet is victory in market dominated by Airbus
Deal for 92 jets may grow based on outcome of negotiations

SpiceJet Said Close to Order $10B Worth of Boeing 737s

Indian budget airline SpiceJet Ltd. is poised to order at least 92 Boeing Co. 737 jetliners, giving the planemaker a stronger toehold in the world’s fastest growing aerospace market.

The $10.1 billion transaction, which would more than double SpiceJet’s 49-plane fleet, may be closed within weeks, after lengthy talks that pitted Boeing against rival Airbus Group SE, people with direct knowledge of the decision said.

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B-1581 Okay Airways Boeing 737-9KF(ER)(WL) - C/N 41113 / LN 6225 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

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