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Old January 7th, 2017, 10:13 PM   #1321
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I'm the one that put that chart together based on info from my Boeing contact and shared it with the Blog.
So in light of that, shouldn't all those nice pics you've just posted above be correctly labelled as 737-900ER, 737-800 then?
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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:40 AM   #1322
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169008/44949 P-8A delivered to the Navy at Jacksonville as VVRC008/AE57CD on 5th January, this should be bound for VP-4 at Whidbey Island in the near future.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:29 AM   #1323
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So in light of that, shouldn't all those nice pics you've just posted above be correctly labelled as 737-900ER, 737-800 then?

They should be indeed. Still in discussions with Boeing on exact impact of the changes.
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Old January 11th, 2017, 07:38 AM   #1324
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Any comment about this?

http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...retch-offering
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Old January 11th, 2017, 09:53 AM   #1325
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Any comment about this?
Wait for a launch customer.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #1326
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The unidentified order for 100x 737-MAX was placed by:


Boeing, SpiceJet Announce Deal for up to 205 Airplanes

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Deal includes 100 additional 737 MAX 8s; 50 purchase rights
All-Boeing jet operator continues to grow fleet with more 737 MAXs

Largest order in low-cost carrier's history
NEW DELHI, Jan. 13, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] and SpiceJet announced today a commitment for up to 205 airplanes during an event in New Delhi.

Booked at the end of 2016, the announcement includes 100 new 737 MAX 8s, SpiceJet's current order for 42 MAXs, 13 additional 737 MAXs which were previously attributed to an unidentified customer on Boeing's Orders & Deliveries website, as well as purchase rights for 50 additional airplanes.

"The Boeing 737 class of aircraft has been the backbone of our fleet since SpiceJet began, with its high reliability, low operation economies and comfort," said Ajay Singh, Chairman and Managing Director, SpiceJet. "With the next generation of 737 and the 737 MAX we are sure that we can be competitive and grow profitably."

SpiceJet, all-Boeing jet operator, placed its first order with Boeing in 2005 for Next-Generation (NG) 737s and currently operates 32 737 NGs in its fleet.

"We are honored to build upon more than a decade of partnership with SpiceJet with their commitment of up to 205 airplanes," said Ray Conner, Vice Chairman, The Boeing Company. "The economics of the 737 MAXs will allow SpiceJet to profitably open new markets, expand connectively within India and beyond, and offer their customers a superior passenger experience."

The 737 MAX incorporates the latest technology CFM International LEAP-1B engines, Advanced Technology winglets and other improvements to deliver the highest efficiency, reliability and passenger comfort in the single-aisle market.

The new airplane will deliver 20 percent lower fuel use than the first Next-Generation 737s and the lowest operating costs in its class – 8 percent per seat less than its nearest competitor.
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-01-...-205-Airplanes


They now have 155 737 MAX-8 on order.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 05:36 PM   #1327
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Old January 14th, 2017, 09:00 AM   #1328
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Just got confirmation on the next USN P-8 from Renton, just out of the paint shop,
169326/62298/N969DS, “AD7DF1”, expect to fly out on BOE064 c/s next week or so.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #1329
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Does anyone have info on ln 6256 please?
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Old January 14th, 2017, 02:39 PM   #1330
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737 max 8 arrived at Yakutsk, Russia for low-temperature tests It is expected that the testing will take about 3 days
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Old January 14th, 2017, 03:25 PM   #1331
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Does anyone have info on ln 6256 please?


N872DN Delta 737-900WL CN 31983 LN6256 YH872
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Old January 15th, 2017, 04:41 AM   #1332
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Thanks Woody!
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How many more 737NGs will there be before all new frames are the Max? Is there a final line number known yet or will the NG continue for some years with the Max's interspersed?
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The production of the NG will indeed continue alongside the MAX for some time to come. Currently there are still 846 (as of 31 december 2016) outstanding orders for the NG to be delivered. As the MAX production will grow steadily it could even take even more then 3 years before all will be delivered.

And even then, the P-8s will stay in production, which means that we could see NG deliveries well into the 2020s.
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Old January 15th, 2017, 12:50 PM   #1335
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The production of the NG will indeed continue alongside the MAX for some time to come. Currently there are still 846 (as of 31 december 2016) outstanding orders for the NG to be delivered. As the MAX production will grow steadily it could even take even more then 3 years before all will be delivered.

And even then, the P-8s will stay in production, which means that we could see NG deliveries well into the 2020s.
Wow, I didn't realise there was so many NGs still to be delivered! I was sort of expecting them to be all finished by this summer and then all Max but I see not!

How long was the overlap with the classics and NGs back in the day?
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Wow, I didn't realise there was so many NGs still to be delivered! I was sort of expecting them to be all finished by this summer and then all Max but I see not!

How long was the overlap with the classics and NGs back in the day?
And Boeing is still selling the NG's too.
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And Boeing is still selling the NG's too.
I suspect Boeing and Airbus will sell you a classic as late as H2 2018 for delivery by end 2020...if that is what the market wants.

The variable determining final phase out is fuel prices. Higher Avgas prices will kill the NG sooner if such comes to pass. The other variable is CFM and their manufacturing ramp.
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The other variable is CFM and their manufacturing ramp.
True. I expect CFM International to slowly phase out production CFM56's for new airplanes and concentrate on LEAP engine production by 2018 anyway. And that means the end of 737 Next Generation production in favor of 737 MAX production.
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Went on another VIP tour of the Renton Plant specifically on the MAX line.

- The first 737-8 for Lion Air LN5948 is back inside Final Assembly with LEAP engines installed and having interior outfitted.

- The first 737-8 for SWA to be delivered will be N8710M LN6188 is painted with full interior and engines installed. Currently outside in the back at new flight test stalls doing pre-flight prep. Should have B1 flight in the next 3 weeks.

- The first 737-9 MAX is out of the fuselage rack with wings, tail, and main gear install. Should be rolling out of FAL in 2 weeks or less.

- Per my contact, the MAX is expecting the FAA certification within the next 2 weeks and then they can start test flights with the first MAX's to be delivered.
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True. I expect CFM International to slowly phase out production CFM56's for new airplanes and concentrate on LEAP engine production by 2018 anyway. And that means the end of 737 Next Generation production in favor of 737 MAX production.
I would expect ongoing limited production of the CFM56 engine to support spares and replacements for existing NG operators well into the 2020's
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