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Old March 18th, 2015, 09:16 AM   #321
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Really nice fix in Izmir

Is that Izmir, as in the Turkish SSR?
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Old March 19th, 2015, 03:13 AM   #322
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That is still a commieblock even if Turkey was not communist.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 08:07 AM   #323
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That is still a commieblock even if Turkey was not communist.
OK, I guess that we need a credible working definition of Commieblock.

Maybe there are some Commieblocks in the US too?
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 08:09 AM   #324
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I guess any socialist housing block. The one in Turkey could very easily be found in a place like Romania, especially with the messed up windows.
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Old March 23rd, 2015, 08:12 AM   #325
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I guess any socialist housing block. The one in Turkey could very easily be found in a place like Romania, especially with the messed up windows.

The first sentence is a step toward a definition.
But then we need to define socialism.
Were all the public housing projects built in the USA and Great Britain in the 1940s, '50s, and '60s socialist?
Is the skyscraper quarter of Villleurbanne (France), built in the 1920s and '30s under a socialist mayor, a commieblock?
Are all socialists communists?

The second sentence undermines any attempt at a definition.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #326
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I would call this American Commieblocks (NYC):



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The US has never been a communist country, and New York has never been a communist city, so how could these be commieblocks?
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Old March 28th, 2015, 10:32 AM   #328
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Seriously, it's just a generic term. There's no official meaning to the word 'commieblock,' it's slang.
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Old March 29th, 2015, 03:49 AM   #329
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Seriously, it's just a generic term. There's no official meaning to the word 'commieblock,' it's slang.
This reminds me of Humpty-Dumpty's famous statement in Alice in Wonderland: "A word means what I say it means, nothing more, nothing less."

So, commieblock may refer to communist multifamily residential construction, or not. It may refer to something built in a totally non-communist country. It may refer to the house that private contractors built for free, using public money, for the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.

Maybe it even refers to Elvis' Graceland.
Maybe it includes Le Corbusier's Unite d'Habitation.
Maybe it refers to all those publicly subsidized housing units that Donald Trump and his old man built over the years.
I like that -- Donald Trump, capitalist icon, got immensely rich by building commieblocks. No wonder his wife is named Ivana and his daughter Ivanka.

So who gets to say what commieblock means, and who isn't entitled to say what it means? Can we have certification exams, and someone to keep track of the accreditation records?

BTW, I think that this is a great topic. We just need to respect the language and logic of the subject a little more.

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We're talking about the style, the design and the 'look' of the buildings, not about the political ideology of the country it was built in.

Commieblock = public housing buildings.

It doesn't matter if it's in Russia or in the US.
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Nice thread you've got here! A couple of examples from Moscow, Russia:

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And another one being finished:

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More to come later!
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I wouldn't call the first one a commieblock, but it's definitely a great renovation! And the second one is looking good
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Nice thread you've got here! A couple of examples from Moscow, Russia:

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Do you have more details about this one (website, etc.)?
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I don't like what they did to that building. The original design could have been retained very well, but now it just looks messy and disproportional.

The second one looks very good though.
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Old March 31st, 2015, 07:44 PM   #335
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Do you have more details about this one (website, etc.)?
Sure I do, but it's all in russian though. There you go still:
http://archi.ru/russia/58346/inkrust...skovskoi-ulicy

And here's the developer's page:
http://www.sminex.com/apartments
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I don't like what they did to that building. The original design could have been retained very well, but now it just looks messy and disproportional.
Honestly, there's nothing here to retain or cherish. It's a typical late 50's block built out of cheap silicate bricks. In all senses it's just a commie box albeit with a cornice.
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10x better than the current building.They just needed to clean the brick and replace the windows.
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Sure I do, but it's all in russian though. There you go still:
http://archi.ru/russia/58346/inkrust...skovskoi-ulicy

And here's the developer's page:
http://www.sminex.com/apartments
Thank you very much !
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Slightly minimalist approach:

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Seems to blend in rather well

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