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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:06 PM   #221
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oh sorry but ESB is just not really tht special to me(or most) as it is to you,just look at ur avatarjust my honest opinion ....maybe u like old rusty building
I was unaware that concrete can rust. Learn new things every day dont you?
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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:07 PM   #222
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A tall building can be mediocre, and unfortunately the WTC1 is an example. The WTC1 it isnt a skyscraper more in a medium size city of China... I think this special project for this special place deserved a tower much better. And I'm sorry to say this, because I love New York.
New York has towers which exceed 1WTC in height and design. 1WTC was never competing with anyone, it's simply a replacement. Totally different from today where developing countries need something to put their cities on the map. And what's better than a shiny megatall?

New York has height: 1WTC, 2WTC, HY North, 432 PA, 225W57thStr (all 400m+).
And New York has class: ESB, Chrysler, AIG, Woolworth, Tower Verre, 2WTC, Hudson Yards, 56 Leonard, Beekman,... and all the countless Art Deco gems.

What I'm trying to say: 1WTC is not the final pinnacle on the ever changing NY skyline but merely a tower of many.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #223
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and stating Petronas insanely overrated is u being complete ignorant
fyi,Petronas
-once tallest
-still the tallest twins
-represent islamic architecture
-not just cylindrical

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So what? No other tallest tower has ever been as overated as the Petronas towers. Not even the Chrysler or Burj Khalifa. Petronas cheated for height and are only the tallest twins to roof because of 9/11. It represents Islamic architecture but was designed by an Argintinean/American. Also should we praise every building which represents a religion and call it the best? Why isnt that ugly clock tower in Mecca the best then?
Also the design is very basic. A child could add a star to a circle and thats all this design really is.
I like the Petronas, I really do, but people overate it so much I have grown to hate them. I dont know if its because they took the tallest title for Asia or the nice lighting but they are nothing special. There are far better towers just in Asia.
The shard is better to me also, and its also overated.
Also I am not American so im not just boosting ESB because. Have you seen the ESB, Chrysler, American international,ect. in person? Maybe that will chage your opinion.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:40 PM   #224
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Jeez, is there even one Malaysian on this forum who doesn't get offended when someone doesn't like the oh so glorious Petronas Towers? It's like the holy grail or something ... get over it.
speak for yourself
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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:43 PM   #225
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So what? No other tallest tower has ever been as overated as the Petronas towers. Not even the Chrysler or Burj Khalifa. Petronas cheated for height and are only the tallest twins to roof because of 9/11. It represents Islamic architecture but was designed by an Argintinean/American. Also should we praise every building which represents a religion and call it the best? Why isnt that ugly clock tower in Mecca the best then?
Also the design is very basic. A child could add a star to a circle and thats all this design really is.
I like the Petronas, I really do, but people overate it so much I have grown to hate them. I dont know if its because they took the tallest title for Asia or the nice lighting but they are nothing special. There are far better towers just in Asia.
The shard is better to me also, and its also overated.
Also I am not American so im not just boosting ESB because. Have you seen the ESB, Chrysler, American international,ect. in person? Maybe that will chage your opinion.
its not overrated when its the only building to be proud of,in NYC,theres alot of building u can be proud of other thn ESB,for me chrysler is soooo much better thn ESB,i dont care if u like ESB soo much but stop posting on each thread stating Petronas is overrated.....its kinda annoying and too personal i might say


btw,just be proud of ur own country,not others....i mean i adore New York,but I love Kuala Lumpur
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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:44 PM   #226
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I was unaware that concrete can rust. Learn new things every day dont you?
its a metaphor
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Old March 25th, 2013, 05:47 PM   #227
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I am not saying Petronas are overrated, but how do they represent islamic architecture? To me, the look quite like this:

thnx for comparing Petronas to something equally stunning....
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Old March 25th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #228
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its not overrated when its the only building to be proud of,in NYC,theres alot of building u can be proud of other thn ESB,for me chrysler is soooo much better thn ESB,i dont care if u like ESB soo much but stop posting on each thread stating Petronas is overrated.....its kinda annoying and too personal i might say


btw,just be proud of ur own country,not others....i mean i adore New York,but I love Kuala Lumpur
How is it the only building to be proud of? Malyasia has plenty. Yes the chrysler is better than the ESB, I agree. I keep saying the petronas are overated because they are, that's it. Whenever someone critcises any other building its fine, but the petronas are not allowed to be judged.

I was born in Germany, lived in America and now live in South africa and I try take pride in all their buildings as well as countrys that I have never lived in or been to(eg.china).
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Old March 25th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #229
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Burj Al Arab



Design lack's symmetry and it is to over the top. Lacks elegance and feels too artificial. Overall, a very mediocre looking building.

That also applies to most of Dubai's skyline, indeed, the Burj Dubai and the Emirates Towers are the best ones.

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Old March 25th, 2013, 07:20 PM   #230
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i bet you've never seen it in person
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Old March 25th, 2013, 08:48 PM   #231
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Frankfurt has 5 x 200+, london has 3.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:21 PM   #232
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Ruyonryang Hotel in North Korea is the most overateed


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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:56 PM   #233
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pro-Petronas Towers sentiment much?
not.It's my own opinion. if yes , why ?
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:59 PM   #234
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I am not saying Petronas are overrated, but how do they represent islamic architecture? To me, the look quite like this:

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Old March 25th, 2013, 11:14 PM   #235
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err what is this
That is an example of architecture that is far superior to the Petronas towers.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #236
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Which ones then? I only know about the Shard, 1CS and Heron.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #237
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Burj Al Arab



Design lack's symmetry and it is to over the top. Lacks elegance and feels too artificial. Overall, a very mediocre looking building.

That also applies to most of Dubai's skyline, indeed, the Burj Dubai and the Emirates Towers are the best ones.
You know that it's built that way to hold its ground against the winds from the sea ? The taller side is a cutting edge for the winds, that get dispersed towards the wide rear. It's symmetrical if you approach it from the shore.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 11:30 PM   #238
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That is an example of architecture that is far superior to the Petronas towers.
oh really ? then Petronas Towers that is far superior than you
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Which ones then? I only know about the Shard, 1CS and Heron.
Shard, 1CS, Heron, 122 Leadenhall, HSBC Tower and CitiGroup.

The last two are a few cms shorter and are usually around 200m, of course you could argue those if you want to be a pedant about it. What should matter more of course than the heights of the buildings, especially when we're coming down to cms, is the designs. European cities have been lucky enough to have a lot of great ones built and planned over the past few years. The Shard and the Gherkin in London for example, despite some here not liking them, have been very well received and revolutionized attitudes about skyscrapers in the country following the largely abysmal postwar attempts.
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oh really ? then Petronas Towers that is far superior than you
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