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Old April 4th, 2013, 07:48 AM   #361
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^I don't think the shard would get half the attention it gets if it was built outside Europe. First supertall in europe=fame.
Agree. If the Shard had gone up in Chicago or Chongqinq, it would have gotten about 90% less press.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 09:30 AM   #362
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If it was in Chicago, it would definately not go unnoticed.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 10:57 AM   #363
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how about if esb was in shanghai or paris...it will be very famous..
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Old April 4th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #364
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how about if esb was in shanghai or paris...it will be very famous..
Not as much, one reason why the E.S.B. is popular is because it is located in New York City, New York, U.S.A.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 06:41 PM   #365
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The ESB is overrated by the general public, but among skyscraper fanatics, it's judged fairly in my opinion.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 08:31 PM   #366
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Not as much, one reason why the E.S.B. is popular is because it is located in New York City, New York, U.S.A.
In paris it would be as popular along with any other country.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 08:33 PM   #367
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Not as much, one reason why the E.S.B. is popular is because it is located in New York City, New York, U.S.A.
It would be as popular in any other country if it was built at the same time period.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 10:55 PM   #368
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Not as much, one reason why the E.S.B. is popular is because it is located in New York City, New York, U.S.A.
I don't know what's the reason for it being popular because of its location. Big Ben is popular because it's in London. The Eiffel Tower is popular because it's in Paris. These structures are a defining element of each city/country and so is ESB. If it wasn't built anywhere else then it just wasn't fit there due to a lot of reasons.
People can say that they don't like the Beatles, but they can't say they had no talent or that they didn't affect the music industry in any way. ESB made its way into history books and it's hard to deny the fact that it's an icon for NY and probably will be for years and years. If we see people taking pictures of 432 park avenue and not ESB 50 years into the future then we can start talking about the latter being overrated.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 10:59 PM   #369
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Also because the ESB was thet tallest building for 40 years. If fore some reason the ESB was never build and the CHrusler Building had the title not 1 but 40 years, I bet the Chrysler Building would now be just as famous.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #370
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I guess a big part of the Empire State Building's fame got from the King Kong movies..
Everyone remembers those scene's/posters..

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Old April 5th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #371
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I believe when the World Trade Center was still standing, the ESB was overlooked most of the time. There was competition between the two complexes for which one more defined the skyline.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 07:35 AM   #372
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If it was in Chicago, it would definately not go unnoticed.
unless it was built behind the Sears/Willis Tower .
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Old April 7th, 2013, 04:51 AM   #373
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Or Trump Chicago. Or John Hancock Center. Or Aon Center.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 03:04 AM   #374
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Agree. If the Shard had gone up in Chicago or Chongqinq, it would have gotten about 90% less press.
oh that is so true. In chongqing i stood in front of United International Mansion that just topped out and dominated the skyline and outside of this forum probably noone knows about this tower. i mean even here after 4 years it only gets like a dozen pages total together, yet compared to the Shard it can easily can keep up. if this building and the shard would switch locations it would be exactly the opposite and that has nothing to do with design, shape or building cost. it is just a matter of location. i mean living in europe how often do i read about the shard becoming europe's tallest and how often did i not read that moscow has a U/C project that always was taller than the shard, just was still a construction site when the shard finished. And about Laktha Center, which is becoming by far the tallest building in europe (besides federation towers spire) i also never heard of in the press. and not like the shard it is becoming the tallest by more than just 10 meters spire above the second tallest roof

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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #375
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oh that is so true. In chongqing i stood in front of United International Mansion that just topped out and dominated the skyline and outside of this forum probably noone knows about this tower. i mean even here after 4 years it only gets like a dozen pages total together, yet compared to the Shard it can easily can keep up. if this building and the shard would switch locations it would be exactly the opposite and that has nothing to do with design, shape or building cost. it is just a matter of location. i mean living in europe how often do i read about the shard becoming europe's tallest and how often did i not read that moscow has a U/C project that always was taller than the shard, just was still a construction site when the shard finished. And about Laktha Center, which is becoming by far the tallest building in europe (besides federation towers spire) i also never heard of in the press. and not like the shard it is becoming the tallest by more than just 10 meters spire above the second tallest roof

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Sorry, but that Chongqing tower is so ugly, I would even take a nice 80-meter tower over that monstrosity. Height isn't everything.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:53 AM   #376
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Old April 8th, 2013, 12:53 PM   #377
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l think Flame towers are kinda overrated, becose these towers dosn't look so well at day time then at night.

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Old May 30th, 2013, 03:11 PM   #378
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Oh, and I know the CN Tower isn't a skyscraper per se, but it is one of the ugliest structures ever. I don't understand why people like that monstrosity

i think it is very beautiful
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Burj Al Arab



Design lack's symmetry and it is to over the top. Lacks elegance and feels too artificial. Overall, a very mediocre looking building.

That also applies to most of Dubai's skyline, indeed, the Burj Dubai and the Emirates Towers are the best ones.
it is such a beautiful building man. i think u should design then
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Burj Khalifa,extremely overated than required

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