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Old February 13th, 2013, 11:53 PM   #261
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Holy crap. I did not know Japan got it so bad.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #262
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Old February 13th, 2013, 11:59 PM   #263
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But the Japanese(had to) rebuilt their cities in a quick and cheap way after the war. What if they had the chance to put more effort in the modernization? The Japanese seemed to appreciate nice architecture, as they showed when they rebuilt Tokyo after the earthquake in the 1920s.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 12:03 AM   #264
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Very beautiful. It looks like a nice city to visit.
It's a great city to visit. I was there last year. A youthful city where a you can get by with English.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 05:55 AM   #265
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war is the ruin of humanity, cities has fallen many times and rebuilded ,
hitler was evil? napoleon not the same? american's wars around the war are good or right? Stalin was a good man? the comunism in china?
the true is that evil live inside the humans, the problem is that we can't lay it in the deep of us..
WW2 is only the last destruction that suffered our cities, I hope it was the last, but I'm quite sure that it will be not because we aren't able to live togheter in peace..
I agree, that's why we must always be vigilant to hate and signs of intolerance, that's where war and destruction start. If we all work together across borders we can overcome this often fatal flaw in human nature, fear and hate. Once hate is organized and mobilized we can't stop and all those mostly good people are too afraid to open their mouths...then comes the next Stalin, Hitler, or whoever.

Excellent comment GhostofDorian. We are all responsible for our destiny to a great extent. Polish elites bought out by foreign agents and ruled by self-interest betrayed their country in teh 18th century helping to bring about its downfall and pave the way to numerous tragedies over the next 200 hundred years that culminated in WWII and the subsequent Soviet occupation.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 10:40 AM   #266
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the lasts pictures of japan are really disturbing..at the end of the war a japanese citizen lived like after apocalypse..look the photos,
but you think is possible a thing like that? but it's possible that we are so bad inside to reduce ourself like that? and the best thing is that after have bombed a country, we must to pay to rebuild all..we are so pathetic..
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Old February 15th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #267
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Venice of the North - Rotterdam
Watch this unique footage from 1931 Riding over Rotterdam
Dresden= Florence of the Elbe
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Old February 15th, 2013, 06:16 PM   #268
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Erfurt was heavily damaged. and the others fall into the category of smaller towns.

As a previous post said, the only "larger" cities not mostly destroyed were Regensburg and Gorlitz (and even Gorlitz wasn't/isn't all that big).
Halle?
Schwerin?
Stralsund?
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Old February 16th, 2013, 12:42 PM   #269
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Were damaged.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #270
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Elbing/Elblag (90 percent of the city burned and destroyed by the Red Army during the East prussian offensive in january 1945)
Pre-war population: 97 000



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Old February 17th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #271
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Stolp/Slupsk - Eastern Pomerania
Pre-war population: 51 000



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Słupsk had its origins as a Slavic Pomeranian settlement on the Słupia river in early Middle Ages, which later became part of Piast Poland. In 1265 it was given city rights. By the 14th century, the town had become a centre of local administration and trade and a Hanseatic League associate. Between 1368 and 1478, it was the residence of the Dukes of Pomerania. In 1648, according to the peace treaty of Osnabrück, Słupsk became part of Brandenburg-Prussia. In 1815 it was incorporated into the newly formed Prussian Province of Pomerania.









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Old February 19th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #272
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Orléans

Pre-war population: 73 000



The city was a Gallic fortified town (Cenabum) taken and destroyed by Julius Caesar.

In the Middle Ages, Orléans is one of three cities the richest in France with Rouen and Paris, thanks to its closeness with Paris and its stopping-off place on the Loire.

The WW2 strikes the city quite hard. The destructions are numerous.

In the years which follow the liberation, the city is one of the first ones reconstructed in France: the plan of reconstruction and arrangement is adopted from 1943 and the works begin from the beginning of year 1945.









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Old February 19th, 2013, 12:58 AM   #273
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This thread is now re-opened but please remember to credit all photos and provide its source or they will be removed without notice. Also, please note that this is strictly a photo thread, some short comments about the photos are welcomed but please don't discuss any political issues here. Thank you all for the cooperation!
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Old February 19th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #275
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I've just gone through this whole thread. Its so sad the loss of obviously firstly the human loss, but also the loss of such rich architectural heritage in Europe during the war I know from living in Devon how badly bombed both Plymouth and Exeter were and also seeing pre-war photos of both cities, its apparent that neither city has never really properly recovered from the war damage they both suffered. The difference it seems to me between British cities and German cities in particular is that more of an effort was made post war to repair or reinstate important buildings in Germany than in Britain, where the attitude seemed to be to clear damaged buildings in order to create a fresh modern vision, with even more additional clearing of buildings post war if they felt something was in the way of these grand visions. Saying that its evident that Germany still lost some beautiful pieces of architecture during the conflict. There were no real winners in Europe after the war in my opinion.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #276
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Allenstein/Olsztyn - East Prussia
Pre-war population: 54 000



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Old February 20th, 2013, 03:33 AM   #277
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I've just gone through this whole thread. Its so sad the loss of obviously firstly the human loss, but also the loss of such rich architectural heritage in Europe during the war I know from living in Devon how badly bombed both Plymouth and Exeter were and also seeing pre-war photos of both cities, its apparent that neither city has never really properly recovered from the war damage they both suffered.
I agree. Both cities were entirely messed up, both during reconstruction and in the subsequent redevelopment that affected many non-damaged areas (in Exeter's case especially).

Here are some more individual buildings in Exeter that were destroyed or badly damaged during the war (either way, they don't exist any longer):

Exeter:

Bedford Circus, built c1770


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Devon, Exeter, Bedford Crescent an 18th Century Corner of Exeter c1930's 1280pix by demolition_exeter, on Flickr


Two Houses in Fore Street, built c1630


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ChevalierInn by demolition_exeter, on Flickr


The Lower Market, built 1836

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Lower Market_Exeter by demolition_exeter, on Flickr


The Oak Room at Bampfylde House, built c1600


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Oak Room Bampfylde House_Exeter by demolition_exeter, on Flickr


Refectory at the College of the Vicars Choral, built c1382


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IMG_0003 by demolition_exeter, on Flickr


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BrufordsClockIC by demolition_exeter, on Flickr
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Old February 20th, 2013, 09:45 AM   #278
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Lots of heart rending images of buildings lost to the tragedy of war.... my biggest lament was the loss of medieval Nuremberg. One of the reasons is that most of the city's famous medieval walls and castle survive.

Back in the 19th century most European cities destroyed their medieval walls and bastions, and replace them with their "Ringstrasse". Fortunately Nuremberg loved its' famous walls, and kept them mostly intact. So the loss of so many burgher homes within the wall was a real tragedy. One would almost like to see Nuremberg do like Dresden's Neumarkt, and rebuild the older multistory residential blocks one block at a time. However Nuremberg's facades were not of stucco, but of stone with medieval details.

Another point... I believe that more of historic London has been lost since the Blitz, than during it. Just Google Mappin & Webb Building to learn of the historic Victorian block of gem structures that was lost in the 1990s for Post Modern abomination that replaced it. Even the Prince of Wales criticism and intervention could not save it. Paris learned from the Tour Montparnasse that skyscrapers looked best at the historic city's edge (La Defense), rather than London's city center to muck up the core and obscure the dome of St. Paul.

A few footnotes... in Germany, medieval Bamberg was spared (and today is a Unesco Heritage Site) because of the Washington D.C. connections of the Bishop of Bamberg. Coburg was spared due to the connection with the British House of Windsor, and in England Oxford was spared, because Hitler loved it, and wanted to make it his UK regional headquarters, had he conquered Britain.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 11:36 AM   #279
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Wolfpaw - I used to love reading through your Demolition Exeter blog. Are you planning to add any more to it? Its seems to have gone very quiet...Its very interesting to read, and i also feel educational for future generations, and ultimately helps defy the myth from the city council that the city was completely destroyed in the blitz when its apparent that more has infact been demolished post war. Theres plenty more parts of the city that could be explored i feel too. For example I live on Gervase Avenue and even though the terrace is of no particular architectural merit i'm interested in how number one got demolished for the exe bridges whilst the rest of the terrace remained, and also the demolition of lower cowick street, and alphington street.
But yeah the demolition of the Georgian terraces and crescents in Exeter in particular was tragic and incredibly short sighted in my opinion considering what was errected post war in their place. I still love Exeter though, i think its a very charming city if not beautiful, but places like Cathedral green, lower Fore Street, Southernhay, around the castle, and The Quay really are great. In Plymouth also its generally considered that the whole city centre and Devonport were destroyed when a lot more actually survived than general concensus suggests. A lot of it was just completely swept away for the Abercrombie vision in the city centre, and social housing in Devonport.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #280
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My votes goe for Manila, the old pearl of the East.
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