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Old April 15th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #1
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Public accessibility on skyscraper rooftops

Hi,

in Brussels some new projects for highrise are planned. A residential tower along the canal and a office building for the European Commission in the Eurpean District.
But, I think that is very important that the topfloor should be accessible for the public, to have a beautiful panoramic view on the city, an observation deck, an exposition space or to nip a nice beer on a terrace.
None of the existing towers in Brussels offers this accessibility, which does not help to accept towers and high-rise as a positif urban element in the public debate. There was a famous towers, the Martini-tower at Place Rogier, unfortunately destroyed in the 90ies that had a multifunctional mix and a rooftop bar, the Martinie-bar.
Do you have any good examples of existing towers in other cities? I also would like to find pictures of the original Martini-bar in the Martini-towers. I heard that even Jacky Ickx got married there!
I think a good debate should be lauched to open the eyes of developpers and politicians that it is important to foresee such a public access to the rooftops.

Please send me pictures or references! Thanks.

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Old April 15th, 2009, 05:21 PM   #2
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Forget a public observation space on top of a residential tower.
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Old April 15th, 2009, 05:36 PM   #3
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Forget a public observation space on top of a residential tower.
Actually this is being done in Singapore for the upcoming ION Orchard project.

When the authorities sold the site, they made it a requirement for the developer to provide a public observation deck at the top. The tower itself is a residential building with a shopping podium. All that is needed are separate lobbies with appropriate security.





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Old April 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM   #4
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That building have a huge shopping area at the base, but you can't force a stand-alone residential building to open up. There will be no place at the base to have a dedicated lobby and arrange for people to confortably gather and move in and out of the place without interferring in any way with the residents.
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Old April 16th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #5
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observation deck on a residential tower

it is a tower not in the middel of nowhere but a the border of the city historic center and along the water of the canal. there will be other devleopment like the waterfront, mixed use, commercial fonctions, inner garden, so i think it is very possible to have this seperated entrance, that gives directly on the waterfront, whereas residents for example enter via the inner court.
but thanks for the remark. seperation of entrance and noise for residents are design issues to be taken care off.
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Anyway, why would they build a residential tower on such location. A Hotel is usually more appropriate and of course a skybar/terrace on top is more likely and makes more sense.
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Old April 16th, 2009, 05:24 AM   #7
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Usually rooftops in Hong Kong are restricted. Some residential buildings also sell off the roof with the top floor units, with the condition that maintenance staff have access when needed.

It's a big security operation to supervise an open rooftop.
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Old April 16th, 2009, 06:43 AM   #8
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You'd also want a separate elevator, and separate stairs. That's if the building is residential. Thus almost no residential buildings with public roofs.

In an office building or hotel it's much easier. The public is already in their elevator and stairs, and it's often acceptable to let everyone mix.
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The Q1 Tower, a residential apartment tower on the Gold Coast in Australia has a top floor observation deck and bar spread over two levels.

Here are some photos from a visit in 2008.

You have to pay of course but at least the public can revel in the views enjoyed by residents.

There is also a skywalk as well - Skypoint Climb.

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Haagse Toren!

The Haagse Toren in The Hague is mixed residential and business and it has a public observation deck and bar/restaurant with a separate elevator.
see www.haagsetoren.nl
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