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Old February 1st, 2013, 01:28 PM   #41
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Ulaan-Bator (daily)
Really ? I know about the weekly train 3/4 to China, serving UB, and
the weekly (7/8) to UB itself, but daily ? Or you're including relations
that can be achieved with changing trains en route ? In that case,
other locations will also have much more relations to report, of course...
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:17 PM   #42
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Really ? I know about the weekly train 3/4 to China, serving UB, and
the weekly (7/8) to UB itself, but daily ? Or you're including relations
that can be achieved with changing trains en route ? In that case,
other locations will also have much more relations to report, of course...
I've checked it once more, and I must recognize, that I made a mistake. Moscow- Ulan-Bator train goes only once a week. Daily connection to UB is just from Irkutsk.
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 01:49 PM   #43
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Mannheim, Germany:

Basel, Switzerland : 25 times per day (about twice per hour during day)
Zürich, Switzerland : 7 times per day
Paris, France : 5 times per day

Klagenfurt, Austria : once per day (via Salzburg)
Graz, Austria : once per day (via Salzburg)
Marseilles, France : once per day
Moscow, Russia : once per day (via Poland and Belarus)
Kopenhagen, Denmark : once per day
Amsterdam, Netherlands : once per day
Prague, Czech Republic : once per day
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 02:16 PM   #44
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I wonder which city in Europe (or the world) has the most international trains.

Nice thing to examine.....

(btw it certainly will not be Groningen, my city has only 1 train per hour to Leer, Germany)
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Probably Paris, Moscow or Vienna.
Depends if we count destinations or the number of trains. Actually in either case it might be Basel. I counted all international trains for the next Monday and here is the list:

Local trains

Direction Rheinfelden (Germany) 44 (Regional and Intercity)
Direction Zell (Germany) 33 (S-Bahn)
Direction Freiburg (Germany) 25 (Regional and Regional express)
Direction Mulhouse/Strasbourg (France) 43

Long distance trains

To central and northern Germany (ICE, IC and EC to Frankfurt, Hamburg and Berlin) 29
Paris (TGV) 6
Milan (EC) 3
Brussels (EC) 2
Amsterdam (ICE) 1

Night trains (CNL)

Prague 1
Copenhagen 1
Warsaw-Minsk-Moscow 1

That would be a total of 189 (!!!) trains crossing the border. Of course it helps that the border (both France and Germany) is only ca 5 km from downtown
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 05:14 PM   #45
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From Wikipedia:
CNL Zürich – Basel – Amsterdam / Hannover / Hamburg / Kopenhagen / Berlin / Leipzig / Dresden / Prag
EC Zürich – Zug – Arth-Goldau – Bellinzona – Lugano – Mailand
EC (Chur –) Zürich – Basel – Freiburg im Breisgau – Mainz – Köln – Dortmund – Bremen – Hamburg
EC (Chur –) Zürich – Basel – Strassburg – Luxemburg – Brüssel
RJ Zürich – Sargans – Innsbruck – Salzburg – Wien – Budapest
EC Zürich – Winterthur – St. Gallen – Bregenz – Lindau – München
EN Zürich – Bern – Genf – Perpignan – Barcelona
EN Zürich – Sargans – Innsbruck – Graz / Jesenice – Zagreb – Belgrad
EN Zürich – Sargans – Innsbruck – Linz – Wien – Budapest
ICE Zürich – Basel – Freiburg im Breisgau – Frankfurt am Main – Hannover – Hamburg (– Kiel)
ICE Zürich – Basel – Freiburg im Breisgau – Frankfurt am Main – Kassel – Göttingen – Hildesheim – Braunschweig – Berlin
IC Zürich – Schaffhausen – Stuttgart (– Frankfurt am Main)
TGV (Chur –) Zürich – Basel – Mulhouse – Dijon – Paris
ICE Zürich – Stuttgart – Frankfurt (Main) – Hamburg
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Old February 4th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #46
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It also depends if you count Basel Badischer Bahnhof as a German or Swiss station.

Okay, I am going to check the facts, using the Thomas Cook European and the last separate Overseas Timetable I have (both summer 2012).
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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #47
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It also depends if you count Basel Badischer Bahnhof as a German or Swiss station.
Well, it is a station in the city of Basel...
So if you are counting international trains from a city, you can consider all stations (ie, all terminals in Paris for example.)
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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #48
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I am counting all main stations and also international trains that run from main airports of an urban area, like Paris Charles de Gaulle to Brussels or Frankfurt Flughafen to Amsterdam.

It is a big challenge though, so give me a little time.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #49
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It also depends if you count Basel Badischer Bahnhof as a German or Swiss station.
I don't think it matters, all trains from Zürich to Basel Badnischer Bahnhof go further to other countries anyway.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:35 AM   #50
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I don't think it matters, all trains from Zürich to Basel Badnischer Bahnhof go further to other countries anyway.
There are quite a few trains from Germany that terminate at Basel Bad. Bhf however, so leaving it out of your count does have a large influence in the end result.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 06:24 PM   #51
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There are quite a few trains from Germany that terminate at Basel Bad. Bhf however, so leaving it out of your count does have a large influence in the end result.
I will count them too. Basel is predominantly a Swiss city, and the station lies mostly (if not all) on Swiss soil.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #52
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There are quite a few trains from Germany that terminate at Basel Bad. Bhf however, so leaving it out of your count does have a large influence in the end result.
"My city" is Zürich not Basel, I only counting trains running through Zürich.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 10:52 PM   #53
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So do we agree that Basel is the World Champion in number of international trains per day?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 11:35 PM   #54
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What about Monaco-Monte Carlo?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 11:44 PM   #55
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I was thinking about that too. I will not count trains running through Monaco as international (unless going to Ventimiglia of course), because it is not a national railway system independent of France. And they connect Nice and Menton, two cities in France. I will not count Vaduz and Hongkong. But Luxembourg will count.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 11:53 PM   #56
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According to the French Wikipedia, the Monaco Monte-Carlo SNCF station is served daily by up to 100 "international" trains during summer and during the F1 Grand Prix week (much less during the rest of the year I think).
Most of them obviously are regional services, but this also includes the daily Paris-Ventimiglia TGV Méditerranée and the weekly Riviera Express (i.e. the new Nice-Moscow service).

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Old February 7th, 2013, 12:05 AM   #57
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LJUBLJANA

- Villach (5 trains per day)
- Zurich (1/d)
- Munich (2/d)
- Frankfurt (1/d)
- Spielfeld-Straß (2/d)
- Vienna (1/d)
- Zagreb (4/d)
- Budapest (via Croatia) (1/d)
- Vinkovci (2/d)
- Belgrade (1/d)
- Rijeka (2/d)

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Old February 7th, 2013, 12:20 AM   #58
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BTW, about Paris, I counted up to 105 international daily services (see post #24).

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In terms of countries served, Paris is directly connected to/from:

Daily:
  • Belgium
  • The Netherlands
  • Luxembourg
  • The UK
  • Switzerland
  • Germany
  • Italy
  • Spain
  • Monaco

Several times a week or less (including seasonal services; Venice-Simplon Orient Express excluded):
  • Austria
  • Poland
  • Belarus
  • Russia
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According to the French Wikipedia, the Monaco Monte-Carlo SNCF station is served daily by up to 100 "international" trains during summer and during the F1 Grand Prix week (much less during the rest of the year I think).
Most of them obviously are regional services, but this also includes the daily Paris-Ventimiglia TGV Méditerranée and the weekly Riviera Exress (i.e. the new Nice-Moscow service).
Even we were to count microstates it's unlikely they would manage more than 190 trains a day. Basel has 5 directions for international traffic whereas Monaco has only two (East or West). More likely competitors would be Vienna or Bratislava.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 02:50 AM   #60
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Zagreb

- Zagreb - Vienna
- Belgrade - Zagreb - Villach
- Zagreb - Villach - Frankfurt
- Belgrade - Zagreb – Zurich.

and in the summer season:

- Budapest - Split
- Sarajevo - Ploče.
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