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Old December 14th, 2013, 09:52 PM   #41
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Old December 14th, 2013, 09:56 PM   #42
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TowerVerre, are any of those supertalls not in your video yet? We might be above 80 now.
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Old December 14th, 2013, 10:25 PM   #43
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I counted 4 supertalls for Baishizhou, so we have 82 now. And with the 2 additional supertalls in Tairan zone we have a total number of 84 supertalls if I didn't forgot one now
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Old December 15th, 2013, 01:46 AM   #44
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it indeed says construction time 2014 to 2017. the picture you have shown us with the heights seems a bit too optimistic. some of the buildings entitled 350m look shorter than that, however if the numbers are true we will get a heck of a skyline in that area and and not too far from this area is also qianhai which we should keep in mind that is even more promising
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Old December 15th, 2013, 09:14 AM   #45
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There is no sign on the streets in the Baishizhou area that will happen anything soon. If the construction indeed will start next year, by now we should have seen at least preparation for relocation. Instead more and more shops and eateries are renovated in the area.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #46
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yes i do think the video is older and already behind shedule also 2014 to 2017 is an awfully short amount of time for any skyscraper construction. however the picture also says "phase 1 = 一期" on top of it, yet if all these blue buildings are phase one i am not sure how they will do it.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #47
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Based on my knowledge, I would say this has a 50-60% chance of happening and definitely not for at least a few more years. Urban village redevelopments in Shenzhen are always difficult with complex negotiations and usually get delayed for several years or cancelled.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 03:26 PM   #48
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i think in this area we will for sure get at least one supertall, but as crazy much develoment as seen in the last plan i am also a bit sceptical about. the main tower alone consists of 3 400m buildings and would be a heck of a complex never seen before and right next to it another five 350m monsters. i really do want to believe, but it seems a bit too optimistic too me.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 09:48 PM   #49
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The main problem isn't the scale of proposed development, which I actually think is appropriate for Shenzhen, it's getting the old urban village buildings demolished. Tons of different individual owners so either the demolition for the project gets delayed for a few years (Kingkey 100, Gemdale Gangxia, Dachong) or just gets cancelled completely (Huanggang redevelopment). Maybe they can do a partial redevelopment like with Kingkey Xiasha (just demolished some industrial buildings, few residential).
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Old December 15th, 2013, 10:48 PM   #50
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no way to avoid building in phases anyway, hope they can develop projects a bit seperately from each other than, so that if people do not move it will only effect one building and not a whole building complex of sorts. then again it may also be blocking infrastructure developments such as new streets or metro stations.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 08:51 PM   #51
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greedy landlords learn quick that they can sqeeze a lot of ca$$ from developers and as the surrounding buildings are pulled down and their hogsty remains, the price rise. The more rare the more expensive it becomes. If one would dare to ask the amount which any of the nail houses aske from the very beginning would probably ignored but while the plots become emptier his chances rise. that's ridiculous, and pretty bad, because we put the interest of one particular individual or at most a small group against a whole community or area. One become richer with few millions while the whole development is delayed several months or years and missing a lot of opportunities which can translate in jobs and better facilities for the rest of the residents. Not to mention how ugly, unsafe and dangerous these hogsty are. Reminiscences of Kowloon Walled City with all what this mean.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:54 AM   #52
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China needs a new law to quicken demolitions. First of all, set limits for compensations. Some owners are getting 100 times the actual value of their property, ridiculous.
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China needs a new law to quicken demolitions. First of all, set limits for compensations. Some owners are getting 100 times the actual value of their property, ridiculous.
New laws or better enforcement of the existing ones? The issue is usually the second one, laws are never enforced equally across the board. Nepotism or favouritism means rarely are laws universally applied. A newer law wouldn't change that.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 09:15 AM   #54
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A while ago I've heard someone discussing in a restaurant at the next table what a great deal is it to buy some flats in some hogsty which will gonna be demolished in a couple of years then just staburnly refuse the compensation offer till the last moment, to get the maximum possible amount. Basically they are blackmailing developers, which lose a lot of money for every day delay and eventually these money are paid by the future owners of the real estate being build because of iminent price rise at the time when the construction is done, one year later will surely cost more than it cost now, so they squeeze few more millions now which will be paid tens of times more a year after the initial planned opening date by the new owners. Not much of the extra cash goes to developers but to bank loan interests and construction workers/company which is paid to do almost nothing in all this time while the "negotiations" are in progress.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 02:14 PM   #55
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is there a plot layout picture similar to this, but with plot names for each plot. i would like to add these buildings to SSP, but would need at least need to know how to name them and for example "Baishizhou Redevelopment Project Plot C2" will be much better than just counting them randomly
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 10:00 PM   #56
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Any news about this project?))
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Old March 3rd, 2014, 09:37 PM   #58
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Old March 5th, 2014, 07:17 AM   #59
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1x600m
8x350m
10x250m
It's official now.
http://news.***********/132298.html
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Old March 5th, 2014, 08:12 AM   #60
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1x600m 8x350m 10x250m It's official now. http://news.***********/132298.html
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