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Old February 8th, 2013, 07:04 AM   #41
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Old February 10th, 2013, 05:07 AM   #42
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There are quite a few dark horses in China: Nanjing, Chongqing, Shenzhen, Nanning, etc. It's quite possible that 8 of the top 10 skylines in the world 5-10 years from now could be Chinese cities.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 05:30 AM   #43
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From another thread:

Here's a skyline look from 2004 and one for the near future (much of the future render would qualify for 2015 or 2016 except for the one Mirvish/Gehry tower (of 3 proposed) and one Oxford/Foster tower (of 4 proposed) I included which, if approved would be more like 2020 or so). The Holt Renfrew tower and a couple of others would likely be circa 2017.

Nonetheless, most of what you see is finished, topped off, uc/ (or soon to be).

Many, many projects missing simply because they would be lost in the clutter and many others are blocked from this POV.

Hopefully, despite all my caveats, you'll get a good idea of change from 2004 to 2015.


Click on the LARGE RENDER links for a much better look.

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I heard that there were alot of under construction/proposed projects in Toronto, but I didn't think there were that many
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Old February 10th, 2013, 07:59 AM   #44
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1. Hong Kong
2. New York
3. Shanghai
4. Dubai
5. Guangzhou
7. Chongqing
6. Shenzhen
8. Chicago
9. Tianjin
10. Bangkok
12. Tokyo
11. Makati
12. Singapore
13. Mumbai
14. Toronto
15. Melbourne
17. Beijing
16. Kuala Lumpur
17. Doha
18. Moscow
19. Kuwait City
20. Nanjing
21. Dalian
22. Panama City
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Old February 10th, 2013, 04:13 PM   #45
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There are quite a few dark horses in China: Nanjing, Chongqing, Shenzhen, Nanning, etc. It's quite possible that 8 of the top 10 skylines in the world 5-10 years from now could be Chinese cities.
Yes, it's very likely. By 2020 every major Chinese city will have a couple of supertalls and / or megatalls.
The only contenders will be New York, Mumbai, Dubai and maybe Toronto (in terms of massiveness / scale).

Anyways, my top 5:

#1 Hong Kong
#2 New York
#3 Shanghai
#4 Shenzhen
#5 Dubai
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Old February 10th, 2013, 04:38 PM   #46
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i dont think so..look at hong kong, doesnt have many supertalls, and no megatalls and its arguably 1/2 best skyline of the world..shenzen and all of those i dont like becuase tis so spread out that its not a pleasent skyline..shanghai on the other hand i like because theres like that one spot where most of the supertalls are..
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Old February 10th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #47
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New York. Already the best with 100 years of skyscraper history and now building very tall modern glass towers as well.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #48
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With all the talk about Shenzhen, don't forget about Guangzhou!
In Guangzhou we're talking about 7 supertalls (4 completed and 3 U/C) in one cluster and probably the densest CBD in Mainland China!
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Old February 11th, 2013, 12:07 AM   #49
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Yes, it's very likely. By 2020 every major Chinese city will have a couple of supertalls and / or megatalls.
The only contenders will be New York, Mumbai, Dubai and maybe Toronto (in terms of massiveness / scale).

Anyways, my top 5:

#1 Hong Kong
#2 New York
#3 Shanghai
#4 Shenzhen
#5 Dubai
Agree. It's going to be difficult for cities outside China to keep pace. Only a few will manage to stay in the top 10 and it will require large prolonged building booms to do it. As far as non-Chinese cities go my bets are with the same cities you mention: New York, Mumbai, Dubai, and possibly Toronto. Bangkok may be there as well.

My Top 10 in 2020

01. New York
02. Shanghai
03. Hong Kong
04. Shenzhen
05. Guangzhou

06. Mumbai
07. Chongqing
08. Dubai
09. Toronto
10. Bangkok
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Old February 11th, 2013, 12:48 PM   #50
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With all the talk about Shenzhen, don't forget about Guangzhou!
In Guangzhou we're talking about 7 supertalls (4 completed and 3 U/C) in one cluster and probably the densest CBD in Mainland China!
with another CBD as dense probably coming within the next 15 years as well
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Old February 12th, 2013, 04:14 AM   #51
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Hong Kong
New York City
Shanghai
Dubai
Toronto

Chicago
Chongqing
Metro Manilla
Shenzhen
Mumbai
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Old February 12th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #52
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Interesting thread, but what are the criteria being used to determine which city makes the list?
It says 2015, so I guess future projects and all under construction has a HUGE impact on the scorecards?



and I have to say, Toronto is pretty exciting, isn't it? (a bit of old data, but you get the picture)
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Old February 12th, 2013, 06:15 PM   #53
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There is also a list in wiki that tells which cities have HIGH Growth in terms of building construction (hopefully it's accurate)

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in no particular order

VERY HIGH
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Manila, Philippines
Mumbai, India
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Bucharest, Romania

HIGH
New York City, USA
Shanghai, China
Bangkok, Thailand
Seoul, South Korea
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Panama City, Panama
Macau, Macau
Mexico City, Mexico
Istanbul, Turkey
Tel Aviv, Israel
Milan, Italy ---------------> really? First time I heard this...
Zagreb, Croatia
Paris, France
Colombo, Sri Lanka
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Kuwait City, Kuwait
Karachi, Pakistan


so which skyline do you think is the dark horse in 2015?
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Old February 12th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #54
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1. New York
2. Dubai
3. Shanghai
4. Chicago
5. Hongkong
6. Shenzhen
7. Guangzhou
8. Mumbai
9. Chongqing
10. Tianjin

booming, but not top 10: Abu Dhabi, Toronto, Moscow, Mexico, London

future surprises: Chengdu, Jakarta, Hanoi...
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There is also a list in wiki that tells which cities have HIGH Growth in terms of building construction (hopefully it's accurate)

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so which skyline do you think is the dark horse in 2015?
no Shenyang, Tianjin, Shenzhen?
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Old February 13th, 2013, 03:43 AM   #56
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no Shenyang, Tianjin, Shenzhen?
Their 'high growth', 'steady growth', 'low growth' explanation doesn't even make sense. Taken from that wikipedia link above:

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increase - Very high and high has building under-construction growth up to 10% and above, that was equivalent count of about 40 to 100 buildings in a million population.
steady - growth at 3% or about 2 to 10 buildings in a millions population.
decrease - gradual growth in 0.05%, which means including demolished buildings with counted under-construction buildings.
As you can see it's a bunch of random thoughts from which you can't make any concrete conclusions. High growth is 10% or better in relation to what? 40-100 buildings/1 million population? What does that have to do with a growth rate? Makes you question the whole table when they can't even write properly.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 05:05 AM   #57
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There are quite a few dark horses in China: Nanjing, Chongqing, Shenzhen, Nanning, etc. It's quite possible that 8 of the top 10 skylines in the world 5-10 years from now could be Chinese cities.



Nanjing, big YES ... Nanning, big NO




My Top 30 Chinese Skylines in 2020

1. Shanghai
2. Hong Kong
3. Shenzhen
4. Guangzhou
5. Chongqing

6. Beijing
7. Tianjin
8. Nanjing
9. Dalian
10. Wuhan

11. Shenyang
12. Qingdao
13. Suzhou
14. Hangzhou
15. Chengdu

16. Ningbo
17. Xiamen
18. Jinan
19. Wuxi
20. Nanchang

21. Nanning
22. Urumqi
23. Changsha
24. Fuzhou
25. Hefei

26. Zhengzhou
27. Shijiazhuang
28. Harbin
29. Kunming
30. Xi'an
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There is also a list in wiki that tells which cities have HIGH Growth in terms of building construction (hopefully it's accurate)
Bucharest, Romania
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Old February 13th, 2013, 05:57 AM   #59
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Shanghai easily.
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