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Old February 28th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #81
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Chicago is interesting, but at the same time it is a bit dull. As soon as you move out of those couple of city centre blocks everything is just too flat. Like an ocean the size of lake michigan just made out of lowrises. Thats the biggest drawback with most american cities for me. New York is a good exception. To some degree San Fransisco too, and maybe Boston is a sense. But thats it.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #82
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And yet, London still has a Supertall bigger than anything in Canada

Unless you're counting the antenna on First Canadian Place.
Sorry but as a neutral Toronto has a 10x better skyline than London.
Plus considering shards top floor is lower than 1ST Canadian place, and the cn tower is a much taller structure, its a taller city.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 11:54 PM   #83
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Chicago is interesting, but at the same time it is a bit dull. As soon as you move out of those couple of city centre blocks everything is just too flat. Like an ocean the size of lake michigan just made out of lowrises. Thats the biggest drawback with most american cities for me. New York is a good exception. To some degree San Fransisco too, and maybe Boston is a sense. But thats it.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 12:18 AM   #84
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The Shard has a huuuge crown. Top floor: 244m.
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First Canadian Place is 298m tall, to the roof. I guess the last occupied floor is somewhere between 280m and 290m.

So yeah, it's pretty clear to me as to which one is taller.


Hmm strange then that The Shard (on the same website you linked above) is listed as taller than First Canadian Place...


http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/london/the-shard/451/
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http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/toro...ank-tower/543/
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Old March 1st, 2013, 02:25 PM   #85
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Yes, because a crown counts, whereas an antenna doesn't by CTBUH standards. But let's end the discussion here, it's too OT.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 02:53 PM   #86
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Hmm strange then that The Shard (on the same website you linked above) is listed as taller than First Canadian Place...


http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/london/the-shard/451/
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http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/toro...ank-tower/543/
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They have a thing against spires and crowns there :p

However, it's fairly obvious that Toronto does have a significantly larger skyline and is taller than London by quite a margin.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 05:49 PM   #87
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They are totally in different leagues if you ask me but London's skyline is pretty good in europe standard.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 05:58 PM   #88
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What about Moscow?

I think Moscow will have a lot to show in the next few years. Interesting skyline.

However, nothing beats a good ol' American skyline, and by American I don't mean USA, I mean the whole of America. You will find a good balance between architecture and density, which is not easy to find anywhere else.
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 06:52 PM   #89
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Moscow has indeed a cool skyline, but there aren't much high towers which should start soon, right?
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 08:48 PM   #90
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Moscow's new CBD's skyline has impressive height, but those supertalls are a little bit tacky looking for my taste. Also, imho they need more mid rises to play the supporting roles, right now all you see is a small bunch of tall concrete columns sticking out in a sea of short buildings.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 02:37 AM   #91
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I wouldn't say nothing beats an american skyline. They are way too small for my likings. Apart from Manhatten. Chicago is decent... In asia however you are starting to find a great diversity of good skylines. Not as compact, but they are improving fast.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 06:16 AM   #92
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And yet, London still has a Supertall bigger than anything in Canada

Unless you're counting the antenna on First Canadian Place.
If you look at a diagram of the Shard right next to First Canadian Place, it's pretty clear that FCP is a much bigger building - not even including the antenna.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 06:29 AM   #93
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Chicago is interesting, but at the same time it is a bit dull. As soon as you move out of those couple of city centre blocks everything is just too flat. Like an ocean the size of lake michigan just made out of lowrises. Thats the biggest drawback with most american cities for me. New York is a good exception. To some degree San Fransisco too, and maybe Boston is a sense. But thats it.
personally thats why i prefer american skylines over asian because you dont have all those highrise apartment complexes all over the place with a random center in the middle of all that mess where the skyline is..american skylines have a compact downtown area with lowrize around it..idk for me it makes the skyscrapers that u have in the downtown look better might be just me tho lol
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personally thats why i prefer american skylines over asian because you dont have all those highrise apartment complexes all over the place with a random center in the middle of all that mess where the skyline is..american skylines have a compact downtown area with lowrize around it..idk for me it makes the skyscrapers that u have in the downtown look better might be just me tho lol
IMO, a compact downtown surrounded by a sea of independent houses / lowrises looks and feels much less urban than a built-up city with midrises, highrises and skyscrapers.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 07:20 AM   #95
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And yet, London still has a Supertall bigger than anything in Canada
With all due respect, Canada has been building skyscrapers since the 1880s and has a massive lead on the UK in tall buildings. Calgary arguably has a better skyline than London. Toronto is miles ahead. When London builds a sea of skyscrapers from the Gherkin all way to Canary Wharf (about 4 km) it will rival Toronto in size.

London's a wonderful city, but when it comes to tall buildings you'd have to build another 200-300 to close the gap.
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Totally agree, europe is kind of like a lowrise continent. Most of their taller buildings are Churces. Love the architecture in europe but when it comes to skyscrapers, Europe is in the same league as Africa.
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Chicago is interesting, but at the same time it is a bit dull. As soon as you move out of those couple of city centre blocks everything is just too flat. Like an ocean the size of lake michigan just made out of lowrises. Thats the biggest drawback with most american cities for me. New York is a good exception. To some degree San Fransisco too, and maybe Boston is a sense. But thats it.
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Old March 7th, 2013, 12:38 AM   #98
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Chicago is interesting, but at the same time it is a bit dull. As soon as you move out of those couple of city centre blocks everything is just too flat. Like an ocean the size of lake michigan just made out of lowrises. Thats the biggest drawback with most american cities for me. New York is a good exception. To some degree San Fransisco too, and maybe Boston is a sense. But thats it.
Perhaps now you would consider Miami a good exception. High-rises extend out from downtown Miami in all directions. They are just not all in the actual city of Miami.

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Old March 8th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #100
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Yes, Miami is an interresting city. I wouldn't expect the best sprawling city life there, but it seems to have a good qality of life with its beaches.

At least if you have the money for it!

PS: The huge american parking lots are kind of a drawback for me too though. I must say that. And yes, Chicago is very interresting within the highrise area. But that is not the whole city

I'm personally a much bigger fan of the asian sprawling cities where you have life all around you with highrises everywhere....
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