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Old May 28th, 2016, 06:45 PM   #21
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Old June 30th, 2016, 12:35 AM   #24
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nice place tel aviv, i have a lot of friends(jewish) and they tell me is a nice play maybe i go there hello from mexico
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nice place tel aviv, i have a lot of friends(jewish) and they tell me is a nice play maybe i go there hello from mexico
You have to be careful. Ive heard from some travelers that some jews there will spit on Christians just because they arent Jewish.
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Pfft, that's ridiculous. I don't know who told you this. How do you even tell a Jew from a Christian?
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Old July 20th, 2016, 04:25 AM   #31
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Pfft, that's ridiculous. I don't know who told you this. How do you even tell a Jew from a Christian?
My grandmother, an Episcopalian, told me this. She went on pilgrimage to Jerusalem four years ago. She said that two men wearing large fur hats (I believe they are called shtreimel) and long sideburns characteristic of some Jewish communities spat simultaneously at her feet after she told them "shalom shabbat" or something of that sort. She said they scowled at her nastily as well. She is a very pious and friendly woman who would have no reason to make this up. She was trying to be polite to strangers who, in response, disrespected her terribly. I know the vast majority of Jews do not act this way, but unfortunately there are some who do. I was simply trying to inform the other poster of this incident.
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So basically you heard from one traveler, not some travelers. I can sort of imagine how that happened—there are a couple of neighborhoods with really crazy religious people (like Mea Shearim) where the vast majority of tourists have no reason to go to, and indeed locals don't go there either, because it's a criminal neighborhood for all intents and purposes (you have lots of them in Chicago). It's highly unlikely that your grandmother was spit on for being non-Jewish. How do you tell a Jew from a non-Jew anyway? Do you imagine we all have signs saying 'Jew' on our foreheads?

The other instance I can imagine is if she went to one of two 2–3 religious sites highly contested between multiple religions, in an obviously Christian costume. Not saying it's OK to spit on people anywhere, especially for religious reasons, but think of it like gang territory in Chicago: if one gang "controls" some territory, there's no problem for the average Joe to go there, but if you wear obvious insignia from another gang, you're in trouble. If you're going on a religious pilgrimage in Jerusalem and plan to wear a religious costume, you do need to take some things into account, but in most areas it's perfectly normal and millions of tourists do this.

Overall Jerusalem is much safer than any major US city (including Chicago), and Tel Aviv is even safer, so don't let a single strange incident form your opinion of the city.
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So basically you heard from one traveler, not some travelers. I can sort of imagine how that happened—there are a couple of neighborhoods with really crazy religious people (like Mea Shearim) where the vast majority of tourists have no reason to go to, and indeed locals don't go there either, because it's a criminal neighborhood for all intents and purposes (you have lots of them in Chicago). It's highly unlikely that your grandmother was spit on for being non-Jewish. How do you tell a Jew from a non-Jew anyway? Do you imagine we all have signs saying 'Jew' on our foreheads?

The other instance I can imagine is if she went to one of two 2–3 religious sites highly contested between multiple religions, in an obviously Christian costume. Not saying it's OK to spit on people anywhere, especially for religious reasons, but think of it like gang territory in Chicago: if one gang "controls" some territory, there's no problem for the average Joe to go there, but if you wear obvious insignia from another gang, you're in trouble. If you're going on a religious pilgrimage in Jerusalem and plan to wear a religious costume, you do need to take some things into account, but in most areas it's perfectly normal and millions of tourists do this.

Overall Jerusalem is much safer than any major US city (including Chicago), and Tel Aviv is even safer, so don't let a single strange incident form your opinion of the city.
Obviously its impossible to be absolutely certain of a person's affiliations based solely upon their appearance. However, certain groups are known to partake in certain fashions that other groups probably wouldnt, so it is possible to make a good guess as to a persons affiliations based on their appearance.This "territory" stuff is nonsense. Chicago may have more gangs than Jerusalem, but ive never heard of a non gang-affiliated person being spat upon in Chicago. There is absolutely no excuse for spitting on another person (not saying that you would approve of such a thing). I dont even understand how anyone could consider doing such a barbaric thing.

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It's amazing the number of towers going up in Tel Aviv, very nice!
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