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Old September 5th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #361
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The downtown skyline cannot grow without overtaking the 'slope' of the WTC.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 09:32 PM   #362
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It is absolutely ridicolous and stupid that this tower will have only 77 floors !!!
Square footage is limited, cubic footage is not. If a developer believes he can not only make up for the increased cost of supertall construction, but enhance his profits, he will take advantage of higher per-square-foot selling prices by increasing ceiling height.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 10:54 PM   #363
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I am eagerly awaiting news for 45 and 55 broad Street as well. Don't forget about those important two. If they are combined we might have yet another supertall in Lower Manhattan.
Yea hopefully one of those projects can be combined to build something that Donald Trump proposed back in the day for the Stock Exchange Site. Pity that developers where allergic building tall then... after 9/11.



This would be a perfect bookend to the WTC.

Come on Trump, stop wishing to be a president or whatever and get back in the freakin game! This is the time to do it!!!! Dang.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 11:10 PM   #364
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I asked about him in the 432 thread, really surprised he's not getting in on the boom... Where's he disappeared to?
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Old September 5th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #365
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I asked about him in the 432 thread, really surprised he's not getting in on the boom... Where's he disappeared to?
he disappeared to other countries :/
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Old September 6th, 2014, 01:12 AM   #366
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Old September 6th, 2014, 02:01 AM   #367
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does he still even do developments, or just ***** his name out?
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Old September 6th, 2014, 02:02 AM   #368
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why would he do that when he could just demo then make a new building, ugh dont even get me started on mr.trump ,this building honestly needs a crown or at least some sort of elaborate illumination to compliment the pitiful wtc complex
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:03 AM   #369
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It would honestly look great if it were 100 feet shorter or moved ten blocks to the east or south.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 05:05 PM   #370
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Diagram is up

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Old September 7th, 2014, 12:42 AM   #371
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why would he do that when he could just demo then make a new building, ugh dont even get me started on mr.trump
It's not his fault, the building is a protected landmark. I assume they will strengthen the outside facade and build behind it.
But he has serious balls for trying to fix up that thing!!
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Old September 7th, 2014, 12:50 AM   #372
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He aint gonna build enything in BG, it's just political lie
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Old September 7th, 2014, 08:13 PM   #373
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you know guys - this is unacceptable. If this is the final design - it is not good. Just to make another clone of 432 Park is just a very bad idea. They have all the space there - give us something original!!!
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I asked about him in the 432 thread, really surprised he's not getting in on the boom... Where's he disappeared to?
He's disappeared up his own ass I assume.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 12:58 AM   #375
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you know guys - this is unacceptable. If this is the final design - it is not good. Just to make another clone of 432 Park is just a very bad idea. They have all the space there - give us something original!!!
This isn't a clone of 432 park.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 03:43 AM   #376
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Shapewise, it is. It's like he used his own tower for inspiration with this tower.

On 15 Penn Plaza's thread people were talking about Pelli's clones: 2 International Finance Center, Salseforce Tower, and 15 Penn Plaza.

Please don't make this a really crappy trend, Vinoly. I know you can do more than that. Look at the WTC design you made with the THINK team! Please convince me you can do more than this, Vinoly, by redesigning this tower into one of the prettiest designs out there.

If he doesn't redesign this tower, I guess it'll be a little like the Twin Towers. They weren't Shanghai Towers, but they had sheer dominance and really fit into the skyline. 432 Park Avenue does, too, as it has been criticized, but had a concrete facade and sheer size. This is less interesting than 432 Park Avenue and is actually 50 feet shorter. Ugh.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 05:40 AM   #377
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Wait haven't I seen this before lol.
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This is thinner than 432 ave what da hell.
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it's been stated before the design isn't final

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Old September 8th, 2014, 06:12 PM   #380
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This isn't a clone of 432 park.
it is almost like it. they can have all the originality of the world at their disposal and they give us THIS?
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