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Old September 21st, 2013, 12:17 AM   #141
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Isn't that render the same early one they showed to the CB months ago? I'm not sure it represents the finished product, looks more like an early massing to me.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #142
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What a let-down, not even 900 feet.

This taboo of not "disturbing" the WTC or building higher than 1WTC has to stop!
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Old September 28th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #143
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Viñoly.

Didn't expect much after the Selldorf design got scrapped. OK height too. They said they didn't want to upstage WTC and they came through in abundance. How high can you pile mediocrity? We're getting closer to the answer...
pretty uninspiring if you ask me... I hope the 77 Trinity around the corner will not have the fate as 22 Thames.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #144
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Hello ny developers you are a shit class of people,you choice Vinoly and order him to do a chip design.....a banal tower.. , only a name for marketing reasons.
I want Steven Holl without developer restrictions!!!
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Old September 28th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #145
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What a let-down, not even 900 feet.

This taboo of not "disturbing" the WTC or building higher than 1WTC has to stop!
I completely agree with you. This taboo makes me as mad as nothing else does
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Old December 9th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #146
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These renderings of Vinoly's banal tower appear on the developer's website.

http://fisherbrothers.the42.com/properties/22-thames

Oddly, however, this photo in the 9th of Dec., 2013 WSJ shows the developers standing over a model of Lower Manhattan, and this site has a tower that kind of looks like 56 Leonard.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEThirdStories
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Old December 9th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #147
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The fin on this thing reminds me on 425 Park. But man this thing is dull.



http://fisherbrothers.the42.com/properties/22-thames
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Old December 9th, 2013, 03:29 PM   #148
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Lose the "fin", have a nice vertical stripes cladding and the tower will look solid.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 07:00 PM   #149
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Oddly, however, this photo in the 9th of Dec., 2013 WSJ shows the developers standing over a model of Lower Manhattan, and this site has a tower that kind of looks like 56 Leonard.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEThirdStories
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Yea their model looks completely different than the renderings showed at their website. Looks more interesting & no fin too!

22
THAMES
Est. Completion, Spring 2017






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Old December 9th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #150
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at least the height is more confirmed now, this building is taller than 50 West Street in the model
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Old December 9th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #151
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I really like this design!
It's so simple, yet sleak and a good solid design
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Old December 9th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #152
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I really like this design!
It's so simple, yet sleak and a good solid design
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Old December 9th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #153
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One of the blandest, boxiest proposals for a major residential out there. This design gives the current batch of Chicago residentials a run for their money.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 11:38 PM   #154
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I wouldn't hate this design if it weren't for the awful white slab. But, it's there, and I do. Here's hoping that there's something to that model in the WSJ photo.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 11:38 PM   #155
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I like the secondary block, blends in well the the WTC block.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 11:45 PM   #156
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Actually that looks awesome! I like the vertical emphasis with the fins.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 04:08 PM   #157
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Well, not bad... Could be a little louder, but I'm okay with this project.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #158
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22 Thames May Become Downtown's Tallest Residential Tower



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Fisher Brothers has posted some renderings of the Rafael Vinoly-designed 22 Thames, and the rental tower is certainly living up to its promise of being tall, thin, glassy, and nondescript, not entirely unlike Vinoly's other big project, 432 Park. It also, according to NY YIMBY, could become the tallest residential building in Lower Manhattan if it exceeds 937 feet, passing the Four Seasons Hotel & Residences at 30 Park Place. A disapproved DOB permit has the height at 841 feet with 70 stories and 439 units (20 percent of which will be affordable). Amenities will include a fitness room, club room, library, conference room, yoga room, deck, squash court, screening room, and pool. The building is expected to be completed in spring of 2017.




The last render has it pulling up just shy of 4 WTC (nice to see 3WTC making a cameo appearance ). 960-970 ft? And it looks like one of the Agency Buildings at the Empire State Plaza in Albany.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 09:23 PM   #159
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Very elegant, and the fins give it distinctiveness. I wouldn't call it nondescript, because it does look good, though it is relatively plain both 22 Thames and 432 Park Avenue are going to do the Manhattan skyline proud despite their deceptive simplicity. New York City throughout is going to shine in the next few years!
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Old December 11th, 2013, 01:12 AM   #160
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Surprised to see affordable units in such a tall, thin building.
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