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Old June 18th, 2013, 01:00 PM   #121
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The whole existance of the trains and why they are still in such large use in Europe today is the fact, that they bring you from A to B (which are under 800km apart) in short time, very comfortably, cheaper, safer and more economically than an airplane and that means the high speed rail systems work if you have train stations in the business centres of the cities, or at least direct connections with a lot of other trains to the centre. Having Norman Foster (with all of the respect to the man) around to make you rail terminals means you are getting airports with all of their weaknesses (a lot of time on the check ins, a lot of waiting, a lot of driving to the airport/railport, then boarding on a train, that is much slower than a plane, and lets be reasonable, chinese highspeed lines are far from being safer than planes.
So either China really has way tooo much money, their leaders want to have trains to play with and are not really that smart, or there must be something behind these enourmous stations (maybe the Chinese are building space ships?).

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Old June 18th, 2013, 09:23 PM   #122
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Well the logic was that the cities would develop around the stations, but now that the property market is panning...
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Old June 19th, 2013, 07:31 AM   #123
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I would say the most beautiful train station is the one that welcomes you home to waiting family and friends, after a long journey. 以上
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Old June 19th, 2013, 08:05 AM   #124
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This is as wrong as an old man on a child. The whole existance of the trains and why they are still in such large use in Europe today is the fact, that they bring you from A to B (which are under 800km apart) in short time, very comfortably, cheaper, safer and more economically than an airplane and that means the high speed rail systems work if you have train stations in the business centres of the cities, or at least direct connections with a lot of other trains to the centre. Having Norman Foster (with all of the respect to the man) around to make you rail terminals means you are getting airports with all of their weaknesses (a lot of time on the check ins, a lot of waiting, a lot of driving to the airport/railport, then boarding on a train, that is much slower than a plane, and lets be reasonable, chinese highspeed lines are far from being safer than planes.
So either China really has way tooo much money, their leaders want to have trains to play with and are not really that smart, or there must be something behind these enourmous stations (maybe the Chinese are building space ships?).
You just sound like a bitter hater.

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Old June 19th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #125
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Please do not bring prejudice or such comments to the thread and completely derail it (no pun).
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Old June 19th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #126
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The old Central Station in Milan, built in 1865 by the French architect Bouchot, of course in French style.

It was demolished in 1931-1932 and substituted by the new station, much bigger and still in use.

The "new" one looks much better.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 01:13 AM   #127
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The roof design of Nanjing South Station looks incredible from ground. Sharp design.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:13 AM   #128
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This is as wrong as an old man on a child. The whole existance of the trains and why they are still in such large use in Europe today is the fact, that they bring you from A to B (which are under 800km apart) in short time, very comfortably, cheaper, safer and more economically than an airplane and that means the high speed rail systems work if you have train stations in the business centres of the cities, or at least direct connections with a lot of other trains to the centre. Having Norman Foster (with all of the respect to the man) around to make you rail terminals means you are getting airports with all of their weaknesses (a lot of time on the check ins, a lot of waiting, a lot of driving to the airport/railport, then boarding on a train, that is much slower than a plane, and lets be reasonable, chinese highspeed lines are far from being safer than planes.
So either China really has way tooo much money, their leaders want to have trains to play with and are not really that smart, or there must be something behind these enourmous stations (maybe the Chinese are building space ships?).
Actually the Nanjing South Station is fairly close to city center, right between the old and new districts. Nanjing Airport almost 5 times the distance away in the south. The airport looking thing next to the Station is actually an airbase for the PLANAF and the small "airport" near by is a a helicopter facility for the PLA. Given it's current inconvenient location for high tempo operations and prime real estate underneath it (There are housing development built right next to the harden bunkers). It will probably relocation some where else, list most other military complexes built around major cities during the cold war.

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For military buffs, here is what that bomber squadron might relocate to. Much more secure location and layout in my opinion, and houses identical aircraft.

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Old June 20th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #129
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I really enjoy the out-of-place stations built by colonialists in Africa. Here's two favorites.

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Pointe Noire Station, Congo by focalplane, on Flickr

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Beira Station by Jonesy38, on Flickr
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Old June 20th, 2013, 03:58 PM   #130
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #131
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Buenos Aires train stations

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Mitre Station and Belgrano Norte Station (on the right side). Both are mainly for commuter trains, there are very few long distance services.


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Old June 20th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #132
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The only pics in here form Antwerp Central don't do it much justice.

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Old June 20th, 2013, 06:55 PM   #133
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A prime example of modernist architecture. Built by the Portuguese in 1966. Beira was marketed as a major holiday destination for rich white Rhodesians before the civil war and the independence struggles. Therefore a grand rail terminal was constructed.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #134
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Old June 20th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #135
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Istanbul Sirkeci:

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Istanbul Haydarpaşa (before fire):

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Old June 21st, 2013, 01:32 AM   #136
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Antwerpen could be the most awesome railwaystation in the whole world. Seriously. Not necessarily the largest one (that title might go to China's airport style railway stations) but the most awesome one of a decent size.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 11:21 AM   #137
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Sadly, the two Istanbul terminuses are in danger of never serving as stations again. Sirkeci on the European side now only serves a 7 station commuter line, as the rest of the line is being refurbished. Likewise, Haydarpasa has been closed for all traffic 3 days ago. Long distance train last left Haydarpasa 1 1/2 years ago. When construction work finishes in mid-2015, commuter trains will all take the route into the new Bosporus tunnel (Marmaray). Possibly, a few long-distance trains will terminate in Haydarpasa in rush hour when the tunnel cannot accomodate them due to heavy commuter traffic. Whether Sirkeci will still operate is being fought out in courts. There are plans to convert both buildings and the railway yards into hotel and tourism sites.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 02:17 PM   #138
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There are quite a few stations like that on the Hunter valley line of Sydney's cityrail. Although these do have a bench too... The oddest thing about that line is that you can't buy tickets at this station (to be expected) but also can't buy tickets on board the train, and that even though the train has a conductor on board.
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The whole existance of the trains and why they are still in such large use in Europe today is the fact, that they bring you from A to B (which are under 800km apart) in short time, very comfortably, cheaper, safer and more economically than an airplane and that means the high speed rail systems work if you have train stations in the business centres of the cities, or at least direct connections with a lot of other trains to the centre.
In Europe most rail terminals were originally build outside the city centres as well. The cities then grew and engulfed the stations. On can't blame the Chinese for assuming something similar will happen there.
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