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Old February 7th, 2013, 07:31 PM   #21
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When westerners speak of asia and that something is asian it is more often east and southeast asia they mean. South asia is called the indian subcontinent and west asia is always referred to as the middle east. Central asia is usually forgotten but is often just called the former soviet union. Asia is more like several "cultural" continents slumped togheter in one megacontinent. Europe should also be considered as asias western part.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 07:48 PM   #22
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Like Africa mainly to black Africa, not to magreb.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 08:10 PM   #23
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Usaer or perhaps Americaner to distinguish it from "Americans" as in people from north and south America.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #24
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No one has the right to claim it just for themselves.
Don't be stupid. No one is CLAIMING exclusive use of "Americans" for use by USA residents. It is just what common usage has brought about since the official name of the country is the United States of America. No OTHER country in the hemisphere uses "America" in its name, so why blame the 300 million residents of the USA if they call themselves "Americans"?

And if you studied it more carefully, you will find it was the Europeans of the 18th an 19th centuries who drew the maps and appellations the civilized world know today, and just assigned "North, (Central) and South America's" for the New World. And it was Rome who divided South AMerica between Portugal and Spain; just as it was the French & the British who drew up the present day borders of the Middle East; and most of Africa (with the Belgians, the Italians and the Germans).

It's too bad your hate and bile so distort your views. I imagine you'll grow to be a gnarled old creature...if that.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 09:12 PM   #25
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USA's name should be changed to United States of Washington.. or something like that..
Why should it be? It was the name assigned to the 13 colonies and what eventually became 50 states? Why should it be changed? No OTHER country in the hemisphere is claiming to use the name "America". And they didn't go with the United States of Columbus because there already was a territory down south called "Colombia." Thus, why risk the confusion...unlike, say, Macedonia which the ex-Yugoslav province claims its own, but gets guff from Greece which does not want their Macedonian province confused with the new republic (of Slavic descent). Why don't you tell them to change either of their names?

Ridiculous suggestion.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #26
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The only people that really refer to themselves as Americans are people that live in the United States. And here's why, the official name of the USA is "The United States of America". Hence, this is why people who live or where born in the United States refer to themselves as Americans. Candians, Mexicans, etc have the same rights to do so as well, but choose to delineate their difference based on the country the reside in or were born in. Which is perferectly fine. Being an American and a US Citizen/Legal Alien are two wholly different things.

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Old February 7th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #27
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They could at least call themselves NORTH AMERICANS. Here in Brazil we dont see ourselves as americans, just south americans.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 10:59 PM   #28
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They could at least call themselves NORTH AMERICANS. Here in Brazil we dont see ourselves as americans, just south americans.
But why? If you guys consider yourselves "South" Americans, then NO one else is claiming the same, so why should we bother with "North" Americans if NO ONE else is claiming "North" either (and that would then include the Canadians who'd rather be called "Canadians" first, rather than "North" Americans?) So why confuse things when they DON'T have to be?
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Old February 7th, 2013, 11:05 PM   #29
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When westerners speak of asia and that something is asian it is more often east and southeast asia they mean. South asia is called the indian subcontinent and west asia is always referred to as the middle east. Central asia is usually forgotten but is often just called the former soviet union. Asia is more like several "cultural" continents slumped togheter in one megacontinent. Europe should also be considered as asias western part.
Same logic can be applied with the "American" usage issue.

While there are westerners who consider maritime Southeast Asia as Asia, there are also those who think it is part of the "Pacific Island" group. And here in the West, when one says Asian, it is automatically assumed as "East Asian".

Get over it, people

Some even go as far as thinking all Asians are "Chinese". This is especially true among Latin Americans (no offense).

Americans are people from the USA
South Americans are people from South America
Latin Americans are people from former Spanish and Portugese colonies

In the Western Hemisphere, "Asians" are limited to East Asians (Japanese/Korean/Chinese). Besides, the US was the first to use _____of America. Mexico was not "____of America" but Nueva Espana, then Estados Unidos de Mexicanos.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 12:34 AM   #30
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In modern English, "Americans" generally refers to residents of the United States, and among native speakers of English this usage is almost universal, with any other use of the term requiring specification of the subject under discussion.

So, Canadians, you are Canadian. Mexicans, Mexican. Cubans, Cuban. etc. You'll never be called 'American', nor do I get why you seem to want to?
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Old February 8th, 2013, 12:46 AM   #31
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In modern English, "Americans" generally refers to residents of the United States, and among native speakers of English this usage is almost universal, with any other use of the term requiring specification of the subject under discussion.

So, Canadians, you are Canadian. Mexicans, Mexican. Cubans, Cuban. etc. You'll never be called 'American', nor do I get why you seem to want to?
The whole thread was kinda dubious to start with.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 02:12 AM   #32
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Mexico is in North-America, Canada too, so it will not work much better.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 02:20 AM   #33
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Look its easier to just call them bloody yankes or as we say in Australia bloody wankers both titles could work well.
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yeah i find it weird as well...

In asia, we call ourselves as Filipinos, Chinese, Korean etc..
but we can also call ourselves "ASIANs" anytime, and be comfortable about it..
There is DUALITY in identity -- both country and continent.
The same with Europeans...

but in North and South America, I don't think there is that same level of comfort for Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians etc.. to call themselves Americans.. I think mainly because USA "owned" it.

USA's name should be changed to United States of Washington.. or something like that..
so everyone else in the west would be freed to use American casually without the worry of losing their identity to the USA..
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Old February 8th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #34
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In modern English, "Americans" generally refers to residents of the United States, and among native speakers of English this usage is almost universal, with any other use of the term requiring specification of the subject under discussion.

So, Canadians, you are Canadian. Mexicans, Mexican. Cubans, Cuban. etc. You'll never be called 'American', nor do I get why you seem to want to?
Canadians are fine as it is.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 08:34 PM   #35
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Your ancestors chose a name that was already taken. What did you expect would happen? If you want to call yourself 'Americans' that's fine, but don't tell the other 35 countries that they can't use it any more. That's just ridiculous.



+1 Personally, I like 'Murkuns' for people from the US.

Joking aside, it's a word people are just going to have to share with all people from the Yukon down to Chile. No one has the right to claim it just for themselves.
You Canadians are such bitches. Seriously, who cares if we're called "Americans"? Get over it, you're making this huge deal out of something so miniscule. And I don't know anyone in the US who has ever said citizens of the other 35 countries couldn't call themselves "Americans."

People need to start focusing on real issues and not this type of bullshit. The liberal agenda is mind boggling
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Old February 8th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #36
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Old February 8th, 2013, 11:12 PM   #37
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As a technical writer, I have to point out that "United States of America" doesn't suggest that we ARE America, but only that we are IN America.

For clarity, I call us the United States. But it's ok to say American informally.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #38
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It's like the whole Dutch/Netherlands thing. You are from the Netherlands, but are Dutch. You are from the United States, but are an American. The only difference is the Netherlands doesn't derive from a continent... though there isn't a whole lot else to call you guys... Yanks, I suppose?

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Old February 9th, 2013, 01:18 AM   #39
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Look its easier to just call them bloody yankes or as we say in Australia bloody wankers both titles could work well.
Yes, Australians have many names for us.
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God fearing white male Christian conservative gun owning anti gay Republicans are the only true Americans.
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