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Old February 15th, 2013, 04:27 PM   #61
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God fearing white male Christian conservative gun owning anti gay Republicans are the only true Americans.
and anyone who voted for obama is a socialist,communist,athiest,muslim,kenyan,pig! lol,jk
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Old February 15th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #62
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I think we (the British) probably started it, when you won the American war of independence, or possibly the term was coined after the American civil war.

If US people weren't allowed to call themselves 'Americans' what would they be??
I suppose you can have Virginians, Texans etc. but what if you want to refer to a group of different yanks from different states :P
Definitely you yanks have problems with your name!

Just call United States of American's - Yanks, its easier
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Old February 16th, 2013, 03:29 AM   #63
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By the thread's title... America means nothing, this continent was named after Américo Vespucio, which is the man who first saw this land.

Has no one ever heard about "destino manifiesto"?... "América para los americanos" it might have had some echo within USA popullation.

But nowadays... is just some commun stuff, americans are used to call themselves americans. It's not some sort of conquery or selfish thing. Take it easy and don't act like butthurts.

And I don't give a damn as well.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 03:44 AM   #64
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I'm not central american and Brazil has nothing in common with the Hispanic Americas. You are not Hispanic and that's why I don't refer to Brazilians when i talk about "Hispanic world" or something like that.


Anyway, this topic is not important to me, so please do not expect me to play along.
But you've talked about "latin america", so Brazil included. We are South Americans, like Uruguayans, Colombians, Argentinians, etc. The inhabitants of the USA are "Americans" or "North Americans".

PS: Republica Dominicana is Central America

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Old February 16th, 2013, 04:24 AM   #65
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Its an alien word with some ancient secret meaning, as seen on the history channel.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #66
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Oooo, so a word has two meanings, that I have never seen, this is like dividing by zero and will make the Universe collapse.

BTW, here in Brazil every sane person uses "american" (or "americano", in Portuguese) when refering to our good friends up North. Anyone who uses "estadunidense" is an idiot trying to force an infusion of the language with ideology (anti-american, that is).

Oh, and "americano" in Brazil also means a ham and eggs sandwich. HOLY CRAP NOW A WORD HAS THREE MEANINGS OH THE HUMANITY...
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Old February 18th, 2013, 02:10 PM   #67
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America is a continent, I live here so I'm a good source.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 06:48 AM   #68
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When westerners speak of asia and that something is asian it is more often east and southeast asia they mean. South asia is called the indian subcontinent and west asia is always referred to as the middle east. Central asia is usually forgotten but is often just called the former soviet union. Asia is more like several "cultural" continents slumped togheter in one megacontinent. Europe should also be considered as asias western part.
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lol I call everyone with epicanthic fold and other people don't even call them Asian they call them chinese instead XD
Both of you got it right. The eyes is the key ingredient here. That is exactly how we feel about it in Europe at least. Although every time I talk to a "south asian" and hints about this, they start taking offence. Still, I love to tease them about the whole subcontinent they come from. It is its own techtonic plate I tell them, which is about to get subdued under the Himalayas, and is not really the same continent as the rest of Asia, lol! :p

You know the indian way of nationalism tells them that everyone comes from India, and that they therefore have the rights over the rest of the Eurasian continent. Pretty crazy theory, and they draw the Indian map as a never ending V. So I play on that.

But I do have Singaporean friends who managed to claim that Russia was an asian country too, and that is rediculous. Even though 80% of Russia lies east of the ural mountains, it is a culturally european country, and that is the important coefficient here!

I also have philippino friends who are split on what they are. Some say they are asian. Some say they have an identity issue. Some blame the US Census for naming them "philippino" as opposed to other asians. And finally some say they are latino. I think the philippinos are the people with the biggest self identity problem in the world.

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Old February 19th, 2013, 11:30 PM   #69
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I also have philippino friends who are split on what they are. Some say they are asian. Some say they have an identity issue. Some blame the US Census for naming them "philippino" as opposed to other asians. And finally some say they are latino. I think the philippinos are the people with the biggest self identity problem in the world.
I've read somewhere that US schools teach that Philippines is in the Pacific Islands.. not Asia...

thanks, people are confused even more...
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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:54 AM   #70
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In my mind The Philippines is in Asia, and the whole ASEAN is. When I tihnk of Asia I think of ASEAN, China, Japan, Korea, Mongolia and some other smaller countries like Bhutan, Uzbekistan, Kirgyzstan, parts of Kazakhstan and sometimes Nepal and parts of eastern Russia. But I somehow don't consider Bangladesh, Papua New Guinea, India and Tajikistan. But I am a bit torn there in central asia. It comes down to where people with slanted eyes live. And just because the Spanish came into your archiepelago just to make some sweet love to your women doesn't change your location :p

Just my 2 cents!
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Old February 20th, 2013, 03:39 AM   #71
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We call our country "America" because when immigrants from Europe or Asia migrated here, they all said, "we are going to America." Which was both the continent and the country. Once here they continued to use the term America and that's why we say "America."
However, that word means different things for different Americans.
For example, for LatinAmericans there aren't two continents. Thereis only one. For people from the USA, we are taught that there is North America and South America. Two continents. Latins believe there is only ONE continent and AMERICA begins in the most north of Canaday and ends in the most southern tip of Argentina. Every latin person is also an "American" for being in the continent and they don't like it very much to call people from the USA "Americans" because they feel they are as AMERCIAN(part of this continet) as anybod else.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 03:53 AM   #72
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yeah, it is just as I said about the Indian and Bangladeshi wanting to be as much Asian as anybody else as well :p

But I have to arrest you on one part though. In Europe we used to say that we were going to America when we meant Canada as well. Or at least we used to 100 years ago. Recently I suppose the term has moved away from including Canada to only being hijacked by USAans due to USA casting a shadow over Canada in terms of population size I suppose...
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:19 PM   #73
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Its really surprising for me that In Colombia and other countries in south america people call them "Estadounidense".
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #74
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Of course, we are all american.. why should that term be reserved for one out of 40 countries comprising the continent?
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:32 PM   #75
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Its really surprising for me that In Colombia and other countries in south america people call them "Estadounidense".
It means "United Statians"
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It makes sense though... since they themselves are also Americanos.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 07:04 PM   #76
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We call our country "America" because when immigrants from Europe or Asia migrated here, they all said, "we are going to America."
But they said the same thing when they were headed to Nova Scotia, New France, New Spain, and what became Brazil. When they said they were going to America, they meant the New World. The English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese had colonies all over America from present day Canada to Chile.

It's like Peruvians calling their country 'America' because immigrants to their country said 'we are going to America'.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #77
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It means "United Statians"
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It makes sense though... since they themselves are also Americanos.
Quite right. Unfortunately United Statian doesn't exactly role off the tongue in English. I like 'Yankees', but people in the US south tend not to like that one.
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Do other american countries have of America in their official name?
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Old February 20th, 2013, 07:59 PM   #79
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In Spanish..

it's simply "ESTADOS UNIDOS" - United States
"of America" is not even used
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Old February 20th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #80
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USA should've chosen another name to not screw the rest of the continent.. although the name is how they screwed us the least.
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