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Old February 19th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #21
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so it is proposed on an island, that has no roads, nor a bridge to main land yet? i have a little deja vu. is this island project similary ambitious as the one in Baku?
A bridge will be built obviously, here is what emaar had planned for bundle island.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 01:58 PM   #22
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so it is proposed on an island, that has no roads, nor a bridge to main land yet?
What's the problem with that?
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Old February 19th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #23
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That is why I have my doubts as well, but all these investments will help develop the economy of Pakistan, which is positive.
If you look at the plans for Kalifa and KT and other ME Super and Megatalls, you will notice that they are laid out with security in mind.

I think that the Pakistani's could do this, especially since it is on an island. If soil tests succeed...
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Old February 19th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #24
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do you guys know which design i want for this tower?

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Old February 19th, 2013, 07:36 PM   #25
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just yesterday i was stalking the old archived Al Burj thread, just because it also my favorite world's tallest candidate ever
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:08 PM   #26
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that design of 3 combined towers with open areas and sky terraces is one of the best ever. not to forget it would have far over 200 floors
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:37 PM   #27
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If only the ( why ) two spires were shorter.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #28
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the spires have the perfect height for me, look amazingly fitting to the overall design.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 11:23 PM   #29
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the spires have the perfect height for me, look amazingly fitting to the overall design.
Agree, this is one of the very less designs where tall spires fit great.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 02:01 PM   #30
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Old February 21st, 2013, 02:03 PM   #31
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I have asked some questions about The World's Tallest Building in Karachi from Ali Saqlain Associates who are their estate company.
They told me that Tower will be built on Buddu or Bundal Island which is the Authority of Port Qasim, he was also telling that it is near Port Qasim.

When i have asked about height he told me 245. I say what 215, then he Told me that building will be of 245 floors. They don't know actually about the height in Meters. 215 floors means atleast it will be +1000 meters.
When i asked about the Render, he told me "Working on Design."
He told me that it will be built.

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Old February 21st, 2013, 02:40 PM   #32
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Ah, so it's Karachi's turn now. How nice. So how many 200m+ towers or supertalls does this city have? 0 right? Hmm yeah ok, let's just build a 1km+ tower.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:31 PM   #33
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Two hundred forty-five floors.

What are they going to fill all those with? Remember that every floor will need at least two acess routes: By elevator for everyday use, and by staircase for evacuations.

The staircase has to be made big enough that the occupants of all floors can evacuate simultaneously in the event of an emergency. That is, it has to be able to cope with the flow of thousands of people fleeing the building.

The elevators also have to be made to accomodate all the commuters. At the start of the day, you'll have a lot of people all going the same way: Up. Either, you need a bunch of elevators, or you'll have the lobby filled with people lining up for the elevators every morning.

As well as people, stuff like water and (possibly) central heating all have to be transported from somewhere, with sewage flowing in the other direction. And remember, everything has to go through the ground floor at some point. Then you have the structural elements keeping the entire shebang up, and suddenly, there's not much room left for actually occupying the tower.

At some point, these utilities just take up too damn much room. You'd have to dedicate most of the volume of every floor to serve the floors above it. Also, going from the lobby to your office would be a rather significant commute in itself. And keep in mind, this is disregarding the astronomical costs of constructing the tower.

Any building housing more than ~150 floors would be laughably impractical. The lower floors wouldn't have enough room, while occupants on the upper floors would struggle with traffic to get from place to place. You could make a major landmark and actually get more usable floor space by chopping the tower in half, making two 122-story towers next to each other instead. They could easily be the world's tallest twin towers, and the occupants and civic utilities could comfortably travel up and down.

I call BS on the figure of 245 floors. Too damn impractical. Making a skyscraper isn't just about stacking a lot of floors on top of each other, it's also about serving every floor with the basic necessities. Power, telephone, Internet, water, sewage and transportation. A floor lacking any of these utilities would be very unattractive for would-be renters. And the utilities for each floor have to go through every floor below it. I seriously doubt that there is a company out there, in Pakistan or elsewhere, willing to invest such hideous amounts of cash into making such a big structure for the sake of beating the record. Skyscrapers aren't built for fun, at some point you have to consider your expectations of getting your invested money back.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 05:48 PM   #34
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Sorry Guys it is 215 floors. Means the roof height will be +900 meters + top structure will make it much taller.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 06:38 PM   #35
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When i have asked about height he told me 245. I say what 215, then he Told me that building will be of 245 floors. They don't know actually about the height in Meters. 215 floors means atleast it will be +1000 meters.
When i asked about the Render, he told me "Working on Design."
He told me that it will be built.
you switch quite a lot between 245 floors and 215 floors. not sure what to think, i'll believe only when i see real sources
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Old February 21st, 2013, 06:46 PM   #36
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LOL this money could be spent much better IF this ever gets built. it is basic commonsense!
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Old February 21st, 2013, 07:20 PM   #37
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World's Tallest Building Proposed in Karachi.



see links: http://www.riazhaq.com/2013/02/world...oposed-in.html

http://highrisefacilities.com/abu-dh...tallest-tower/



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Old February 21st, 2013, 09:27 PM   #38
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since i don't believe Kingdom Tower will have over 200 floors i always hope for the first real project with over 200 floors . let's hope this one won't end as never build!
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 03:19 AM   #39
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Won't happen and Pakistan does not require such a tall building too. At most buildings in the range of 300+m/400+m should do for Pakistan.
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I personally don't think it will be built. But lets see.
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Pakistan’s dream to have world’s tallest building shattered
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ISLAMABAD, (SANA): Pakistan’s plans to have world’s tallest building fizzled out on Friday after Abu Dhabi-based conglomerate denied having entered into any $45 billion investment treaty.

A few days ago the country’s biggest real estate group announced that it has signed a memorandum of understanding with the Abu Dhabi Group to develop mega real estate projects in Pakistan including construction of world’s tallest building in the port city of Karachi. The Pakistani group also announced that about 2.5 million Pakistanis will get jobs due to these projects.

All these claims proved hollow after Abu Dhabi group issued a clarification on Friday in major newspapers of the country, saying that it has not ‘undertaken or assumed any financial obligation or commitment to invest in this project and that there is no agreement to do so.’

“It is also unfortunate that discussions between the parties could not reach any conclusion and the memorandum of understanding has been cancelled,” the Abu Dhabi Group said.

Observers believe such false reports about investment accord could not only hurt local group’s reputation but also overall investment climate in the country.

The former owner of the Bahria Town Malik Riaz few days had informed the Pakistani media that he has signed a deal with Abu Dhabi based conglomerates and soon they will construct the tallest building of the world, adding that the problems of the Pakistanis regarding the accommodation would be resolved after the construction of this building. Riaz also had said that 2.5 million Pakistanis will get jobs in the result of the deal.

http://www.sananews.net/english/****...ing-shattered/
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 03:26 AM   #40
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It was too good to be true.-_-
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