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Old March 7th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #41
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Actually, there is no conception of surburb in korea, The concept of surburb is western concept.
Yeah, you're right. Thank you, citypia
Can I elaborate it in detail for someone who don't understand?

Typically, an american in US goes to work to downtown or CBD(inside of the city) and leaves the city at night and comes back home which is located in suburb(outside of city).
Therefore, the city-center usually become empty at night(so called dougnut phenomenon or dougnut effect something)
People prefer to live in a large house like a mansion in a suburb.

But in korea, it's a quite diffrent story.
Seoulite want to work in Seoul at daytime and want to go home in Seoul at night. They want to remain in Seoul at night as far as possible.
That's why Seoul is sleepless city for 24 hours(there is no such a thing as dougnut phenomenon in Seoul)

Living in Seoul, especially Gangnam, is a symbol of suceess life to many korean. Can you remmember Psy's Gangnam style?
If someone who can't afford to live in Seoul, they would go to satelite cities that provide cheaper houses and costs of living. This is many korean people's thinking(don't get wrong, not everyone. also,this trend is changing.)

Interestingly, there are big movements of population between Seoul and other setelite cities in many various directions during the day.
For example, some people commute from Bucheon to Gwacheon without passing through Seoul.
Some people go to work to Incheon and return home in Seoul at night. (It is funny that Incheon is their working places and Seoul is just bedroom town for them.)

Maybe, someone can rebut my explanation with a case Bundang or ilsan city, as an example of bedroom town of Seoul. Yes, I don't deny some cities are still functioning as bedroom town largely.(but even these cities have local identity and communities.)

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Old March 8th, 2013, 01:34 AM   #42
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I think it very normal to work near the coast (Incheon) and live inland (Seoul). We see the same phenomenon in many oter cities in Europe too. The reason is that alot of industry is normally located along the sea.

Edit: looking at Dongtan new city on Google Earth, it seems to be just a kilometer or two from Suwon, a city with 1,138,341 people according to Wikipedia. So even if you can make a claim that it is far from Seoul (though just 80km), Suwon is still way larger than 500 000...

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Old March 8th, 2013, 02:30 AM   #43
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I think it very normal to work near the coast (Incheon) and live inland (Seoul). We see the same phenomenon in many oter cities in Europe too. The reason is that alot of industry is normally located along the sea.

Edit: looking at Dongtan new city on Google Earth, it seems to be just a kilometer or two from Suwon, a city with 1,138,341 people according to Wikipedia. So even if you can make a claim that it is far from Seoul (though just 80km), Suwon is still way larger than 500 000...
Thank you very much
Like I said before, I only saw the the title of this thread too hastily.
I didn't see the first page.
You are right.
I didn't think about Suwon, neighboring city, only thinking about Dongtan itself.
Come to think of it, Dongtan may interact more with Suwon than Seoul.

By the way, it is good to know that there are the same phenomenon in many other cities in Europe too.

Would I delete pictures or posts for you? Since those are not appropriate to this thread's rule, I happily delete all my posts. Thank you again.

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I'm deeply sorry.
I didn't see the first page of this thread. I was too hasty. Very sorry.

If Dongtan is NOT appropriate to your criteria, I would delete it. Sorry again!
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Old March 8th, 2013, 02:42 AM   #44
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I'd say keep the pictures. I like the SimCity style of it either way

Edit: I must agree though that drawing metro borders on a map changes alot from country to country. It seems like everyone has their own conception of where the borders of a city lies.
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Old March 8th, 2013, 02:48 AM   #45
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I'd say keep the pictures. I like the SimCity style of it either way
Thank you.
I will be careful next time to follow the rule beforehand, checking all pages to write something
I think you are a very smart person.
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Old March 8th, 2013, 02:52 AM   #46
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Darwin Australie: 130,000 hab

Not the best but a good one with a large potentiel of developpement

That is a very old photo of Darwin. It's had quite a mini building boom since that shot.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #47
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Please don't penalise my entry for being a huge photo. Have a cup of tea while you wait for it to appear

Liverpool, England, pop 465,700

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Old March 9th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #48
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Great pano.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 04:55 PM   #49
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Please don't penalise my entry for being a huge photo. Have a cup of tea while you wait for it to appear

Liverpool, England, pop 465,700
Liverpool is 1.38 mill
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Old March 9th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #50
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That is probably metro area? But below 500K is surprising to me as well.
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Old March 10th, 2013, 03:25 AM   #51
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Guys, please read the title before you post.

"Best small city skyline with metro pop not over 500,000"


Also, one of my posts on the first page..

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Lets makes a rule here that the city must be at least 100 miles or 160km away from the next closest city.

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Old March 10th, 2013, 05:27 AM   #52
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There is probably a reason for it being metro population too, since you cannot just draw a line smack in the middle of midtown Manhatten and say New York has a population of 400-499 000 people. I'm sure you can make a line in the middle of Manhatten where the population is below that, and name it a "city".

Everything should go by metro pop!
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whoops. I didnt read the rules. shall i delete or shall we leave it as a lesson to others?
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Old March 10th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #54
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Almere in the Netherlands (City and metro just over 200.000):

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Misschien niet zo indrukwekkend als de foto's hierboven, maar hierbij nog een bijdrage uit Almere:

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Foto's zijn vorig jaar Mei gemaakt, maar was helemaal vergeten dat ze op m'n computer stonden.
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Old March 10th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #55
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Eindhoven (just over 200.000 in city, near 500.000 metro)

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Old March 10th, 2013, 10:19 PM   #56
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Groningen (180.000):

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Alle credits naar de website van Pandomo Makelaars (pandomo.nl)!! Kwam er de volgende luchtfoto tegen (op de site een grotere versie)

[IMG]http://i45.************/2j3pesn.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i46.************/141m99s.jpg[/IMG]
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Old March 11th, 2013, 02:43 AM   #57
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I don't think these are allowed because Yellow Fever has a stupid rule ''Lets makes a rule here that the city must be at least 100 miles or 160km away from the next closest city.''
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Why not? Groningen is far away from any other big city (180 km to Amsterdam), and even Eindhoven is still 130 km from Amsterdam...
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whoops. I didnt read the rules. shall i delete or shall we leave it as a lesson to others?
It's ok, just leave it.
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Balneário Camboriú, Benidorm, Niagara Falls and Punta del Este are the most impressive thus far.
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