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Old July 11th, 2016, 02:17 PM   #381
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CS300 Certified by Transport Canada.

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Jul 11, 2016 Aaron Karp

Transport Canada has awarded type certification to the Bombardier CS300, the larger version of the CSeries slated to enter service with airBaltic in the 2016 fourth quarter.

The certification of the CS300, which has 99% parts commonality with the CS100, comes just days before the CS100 is scheduled to enter commercial service with Swiss International Air Lines July 15. The CS300 is expected to be generally configured by airlines in the 130-135 seat range, about 20-25 more seats than the general CS100 configuration.

CSeries program VP Rob Dewar noted that the CS300 aircraft certification process “was very straightforward” because of its commonality with the CS100, which was certified by Transport Canada in December 2015. “The CSeries flight test program covered more than 5,000 hours and most of the data obtained covered both models,” he said in a statement.

Dewar added that the CS300 “exceeded expectations” in flight testing and will have a range improvement of more than 20% out of hot-and-high airports such as Denver or Mexico City compared to what Bombardier originally promised.
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Old July 11th, 2016, 07:56 PM   #382
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Old July 16th, 2016, 09:17 AM   #383
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Trudeau Says Rivals Fear CSeries as Brazil Mulls WTO Move

Canada has insisted it plays by international trade rules after Brazil warned it may challenge government funding to Bombardier, a move that would revive a two-decades-old dispute between the countries.
Bombardier is locked in competition with Brazil's Embraer for narrow-body jet sales. Brazil has said that government financing gives Bombardier an unfair advantage.

Brazilian Foreign Minister said it could move against Canada at the WTO over USD$1 billion in funding that Bombardier received from the Canadian province of Quebec for its CSeries aircraft.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau brushed off the suggestion, telling reporters "there is no country in the world that doesn't heavily subsidise its aerospace sector."

"I can understand that our competitors are rightly worried about how great the CSeries plane is," he said in Calgary.
The Brazilian minister responded in a statement on Friday evening that Trudeau's comments were revealing.

"It's telling that the Canadian Prime Minister admits the Canadian government heavily subsidises Bombardier," Serra said.
Embraer estimates that Bombardier received a total of USD$3.5 billion in state support, he noted. Embraer imports equipment from Canada to build aircraft and the subsidies hurt trade flows, he said.
Brazil and Canada have locked horns repeatedly at the WTO over the past 20 years over state support for Embraer and Bombardier.
Ottawa is also considering whether to match Quebec's investment in the CSeries.


Embraer's concerns boiled over in April when Bombardier won a deal to provide 75 CSeries to Delta Air Lines, beating Embraer's E190 family of jets with what many industry watchers saw as an aggressive bid.
Some industry insiders have estimated that discounts as high as 75 percent might have been offered to reboot the CSeries with the order, matching some of the most aggressive pricing in the market.


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I find it interesting that Trudeau comes out swinging for the C-series yet it was his government which squahed Porter's plans for the C-Series at Billy Bishop
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Old July 16th, 2016, 09:16 PM   #384
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I find it interesting that Trudeau comes out swinging for the C-series yet it was his government which squahed Porter's plans for the C-Series at Billy Bishop
That's what I noticed too. Bombardier doesn't need the Porter deal but it would be great to see the C-Series flying out of Billy Bishop.
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That's what I noticed too. Bombardier doesn't need the Porter deal but it would be great to see the C-Series flying out of Billy Bishop.
Now they don't, but sales were looking a whole lot more precarious when the Billy Bishop decision was made. I agree the C-series belongs at Billy Bishop it is the perfect type of airport for this aircraft.
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Old July 17th, 2016, 01:34 AM   #386
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The 'No Jets' at Billy Bishop crowd are extremely vocal but it's just a matter of time before the needs of the city trump their own personal wishes. Lots of Torontonians love the island airport and pressure to let it grow will intensify.
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The 'No Jets' at Billy Bishop crowd are extremely vocal but it's just a matter of time before the needs of the city trump their own personal wishes. Lots of Torontonians love the island airport and pressure to let it grow will intensify.
There will be a need to compromise at some point, especially that the island airport is much closer to Downtown Toronto than Lester B. Pearson near Mississauga. And allowing small jets to land at Toronto City Airport to access downtown quicker should be a no-brainer; we just need to establish flight paths that minimize noise impact by departing and arriving aircraft, similar to what the bigger airports like SFO and LGA have done.
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The 'No Jets' side have lost all credibility in my eyes. They're not interested in any negotiation and have resorted to outright lies. I used to listen to their arguments but don't trust a word that comes out of their mouths any more.

Bombardier and Porter have been more than patient and had independent groups evaluate the noise level emitted by the C-Series. They're well within maximum allowed levels but these people won't accept the findings because it doesn't help their cause. Billy Bishop is a tremendous asset to Toronto, adds to the urban excitement of the lake shore, and should be allowed to prosper.

The airport was there long before the 'No Jets' people were even born. If they didn't want to see planes taking off/landing they shouldn't have moved next to an airport.
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I would be excited to see the C-Series do transcontinental flights with Porter, especially with its plans to do Toronto to SFO nonstop. Perhaps it could do one daytime and one evening flight from YYZ, red-eye from SFO.
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Old July 19th, 2016, 07:55 AM   #391
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Despite your photo dumps you forgot to mention that NOT A SINGLE C SERIES was SOLD at Farnborough. That's the real news isn't it???????
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Despite your photo dumps you forgot to mention that NOT A SINGLE C SERIES was SOLD at Farnborough. That's the real news isn't it???????
I'm sorry..
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Despite your photo dumps you forgot to mention that NOT A SINGLE C SERIES was SOLD at Farnborough. That's the real news isn't it???????
Easy there Bob, no reason to get all riled up. Let's not forget what C Series is up against, and it's a miracle the project is even alive after Airbus, and Boeing ganged up against it in the sales department with every trick in the book.

Boeing did announce at Farnborough a 737-700 stretch directly linked to mediocre sales due to the C Series. Boeing and Airbus both know this is a small plane with a big stick so look out in the future.
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Boeing did announce at Farnborough a 737-700 stretch directly linked to mediocre sales due to the C Series. Boeing and Airbus both know this is a small plane with a big stick so look out in the future.
Boeing announced a new 737-7 MAX which is a 737-8 MAX Shrink. It will be too heavy and will be operationally too loud to challenge Bombardier much.

However the 737-700 deals struck in early 2016 are overhanging the market and badly affecting Bombardiers pricing power on the C Series. Bombardier need to sell some at non suicidal prices like the deal they did with Delta.

Will the Canadian/Quebec governments support them no matter what??? Don't think so.
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Despite your photo dumps you forgot to mention that NOT A SINGLE C SERIES was SOLD at Farnborough. That's the real news isn't it???????
I expect next year's Farnborough will be a very different matter as more and more of these aircraft prove themselves in service...
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Despite your photo dumps you forgot to mention that NOT A SINGLE C SERIES was SOLD at Farnborough. That's the real news isn't it???????
It was noted in a press release that Bombardier announced no sales would be completed at Farnborough. The expectation is sales coming in in the second half of 2016.

I can assure you that Quebec will not let Bombardier fail. Now that they own 49% of the CSeries program it is in their best interest to keep it going for a long time to come.
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Arguably all of Quebecs investment went to subsidise Delta. That is the _unsustainable_ bit.
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