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Old August 3rd, 2017, 01:51 AM   #561
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Old August 8th, 2017, 08:18 PM   #562
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Swiss's first scheduled pax flight on a cs100 to LCY has landed:
FR24: https://www.flightradar24.com/SWR49B/e66b7da

HB-JBA just having landed at LCY:

Courtesy of: https://twitter.com/bernardlavelle

Water canon salute videos from LCY:
https://twitter.com/LondonCityAir/st...67310322196482
https://twitter.com/apalma71/status/894972574593142785
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Old August 9th, 2017, 09:46 AM   #563
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Swiss's first scheduled pax flight on a cs100 to LCY has landed:
FR24: https://www.flightradar24.com/SWR49B/e66b7da

HB-JBA just having landed at LCY:

Courtesy of: https://twitter.com/bernardlavelle

Water canon salute videos from LCY:
https://twitter.com/LondonCityAir/st...67310322196482
https://twitter.com/apalma71/status/894972574593142785


This is a real step forward for Bombardier, I would love to see someone launch direct North America flights from LCY using this type..
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Old August 10th, 2017, 01:48 AM   #564
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Bombardier really knows how to design.... what a sharp looking acft..... this is the nose job the A350 is dying to get lol.....
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Old August 10th, 2017, 04:00 AM   #565
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Video of the first commercial landing at LCY; pretty steep decent from the looks of it. Also nice little welcome from the airport at the end.
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Old August 10th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #566
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Swiss to grow CS100 operation at London City

CSeries launch operator Swiss intends to gradually increase the number of Bombardier CS100 flights to London City from the initial single rotation per day.
At a media briefing before the type's first commercial flight to London City on 8 August, Swiss's CSeries chief pilot Peter Koch said it intended to eventually operate five CS100 flights a day to the UK capital's downtown airport, without specifying a timeframe.
FlightGlobal schedules data shows that on weekdays Swiss operates five to six London City flights from Zurich and two from Geneva. The Lufthansa group carrier plans to start CS100 flights from Geneva in March 2018.


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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...n-city-440113/

The article makes for some interesting reading... I didn't realise that they were operating into LCY with reduced passenger capacity or that the number of C-series aircraft using the airport is currently limited to just one or two at a time. Fortunately the airport has expansion plans which should help improve things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXeq4Fmm70k


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Old August 11th, 2017, 09:22 AM   #567
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Full story here:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...n-city-440113/

The article makes for some interesting reading... I didn't realise that they were operating into LCY with reduced passenger capacity or that the number of C-series aircraft using the airport is currently limited to just one or two at a time. Fortunately the airport has expansion plans which should help improve things.
I thought they only had to reduce the capacity for landing, but I guess they also need to do the same thing for outbound flights? Wonder if there is a weight difference.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 02:57 PM   #568
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airBaltic's 7th CS300 has arrived in Riga:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...bt9801#e6f370e

YL-CSG just before leaving YMX

Courtesy of Gatis Stanga: https://www.instagram.com/p/BXodcjvFVlI/


Total # of deliveries for 2017: 3 CS100s and 7 CS300s
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Old August 12th, 2017, 05:43 AM   #569
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Bombardier Aims C Series for Europe-U.S. Routes After London City Boost





Bombardier Inc. is pitching its C Series jetliner for trans-Atlantic operations as the Canadian planemaker
pursues a new wave of orders, buoyed by the start of flights from London City airport.

The European routes operated by Deutsche Lufthansa AG’s Swiss arm should demonstrate the plane’s abilities
to potential buyers and help advance the possibility of services to the U.S. that would establish its long-haul credentials, C Series program head Rob Dewar said in a telephone interview.


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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...don-city-boost

A Birtish Airways order would be nice!!
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Bombardier Inc. is pitching its C Series jetliner for trans-Atlantic operations as the Canadian planemaker
pursues a new wave of orders, buoyed by the start of flights from London City airport.

The European routes operated by Deutsche Lufthansa AG’s Swiss arm should demonstrate the plane’s abilities
to potential buyers and help advance the possibility of services to the U.S. that would establish its long-haul credentials, C Series program head Rob Dewar said in a telephone interview.


Full Story here:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...don-city-boost

A Birtish Airways order would be nice!!
Interesting.
  • A LCY to North America route would have to be operated by a British or U.S. airline right?
  • Do flights from LCY to New York on the CSeries require a refueling stop like the current BA 1 flight does?
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Old August 13th, 2017, 01:17 PM   #571
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  • Do flights from LCY to New York on the CSeries require a refueling stop like the current BA 1 flight does?


The article states ( 5th paragraph down) that it could fly nonstop with 12 more seats, I assume that means with 44 flat-bed seats vs the A318s current 32.
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Update on Delta plans for CSeries
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New York, L.A. Seen by Delta as Bases for Newest Bombardier Jet

By Michael Sasso and Frederic Tomesco 2017-08-14
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Delta Air Lines Inc. is eyeing New York and Los Angeles as the main bases for Bombardier Inc.’s new jetliner next year, offering a glimpse of how carriers can add service economically with the midsize plane. Dallas is also likely to get a lot of C Series flights, Delta said in an internal memo to pilots, a copy of which was reviewed by Bloomberg News. That sets up a test of the carrier’s ability to use the single-aisle aircraft to attract customers in the backyard of American Airlines Group Inc. and Southwest Airlines Co.

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Delta will place the new CS100 planes on popular routes now served by the airline’s largest 76-seat regional jets, which will free up those planes to replace 50-seat aircraft around Delta’s system, President Glen Hauenstein said last month. He said New York would get the first CS100, without providing additional details. The plane has 108 seats in a standard dual-class configuration, according to Bombardier.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-l-a-new-york
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Old August 15th, 2017, 11:20 AM   #573
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The article states ( 5th paragraph down) that it could fly nonstop with 12 more seats, I assume that means with 44 flat-bed seats vs the A318s current 32.
I'm actually really curious how those numbers pencil out.

First, the 32 seats on the BA A318 is at least in part driven by the actual pitch of the Club World seats, which are 72" by 20" and are same or similar to Club World business class seats across the fleet. Given that the current A318 makes a refueling stop, is the decision to go with 32 seats driven by its performance restrictions or is 32 seats simply the maximum that fit onto the A318 or CS100?

Second, is removing the fuel stop and thus, the preclearance step, beneficial at all to passengers? Obviously one fewer stop saves time, but I'd imagine being able to skip immigration at the North American destination airport is quite an advantage. Perhaps if the service is possible, LCY should run its own pre clearance facility.

Third, what is the advantage of the CS100 and 300 over the A318 and A319 at LCY? I get that, because they're respectively the baseline and stretch models, as opposed to the double shrink and single shrink, they may have more performance, but how much and what does that mean in terms of routes?

Finally, is LCY a good base for transatlantic service? The BA flight probably makes a lot of financial sense because it's all business class, but surely that's not a scalable model. Operating flights out of LCY must cost more than from nearby airports, so the question is—are passengers willing to pay to avoid LHR?
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I'm actually really curious how those numbers pencil out.

First, the 32 seats on the BA A318 is at least in part driven by the actual pitch of the Club World seats, which are 72" by 20" and are same or similar to Club World business class seats across the fleet. Given that the current A318 makes a refueling stop, is the decision to go with 32 seats driven by its performance restrictions or is 32 seats simply the maximum that fit onto the A318 or CS100?

Second, is removing the fuel stop and thus, the preclearance step, beneficial at all to passengers? Obviously one fewer stop saves time, but I'd imagine being able to skip immigration at the North American destination airport is quite an advantage. Perhaps if the service is possible, LCY should run its own pre clearance facility.

Third, what is the advantage of the CS100 and 300 over the A318 and A319 at LCY? I get that, because they're respectively the baseline and stretch models, as opposed to the double shrink and single shrink, they may have more performance, but how much and what does that mean in terms of routes?

Finally, is LCY a good base for transatlantic service? The BA flight probably makes a lot of financial sense because it's all business class, but surely that's not a scalable model. Operating flights out of LCY must cost more than from nearby airports, so the question is—are passengers willing to pay to avoid LHR?
The limitation factor for the A318 at LCY is the plane's weight and the runway's length. In order to take off from LCY, the A318 is limited in payload and fuel.

The CS100 being much lighter, it can carry a few more passengers and a greater proportion of fuel in its tanks, while still consuming much less fuel overall than an A318.
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Yes but there is no US preclearance in LCY and they do their preclearance in 20 mins while refulling in SNN with the A318.
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Is there any other non-seasonal and regularly scheduled flight that takes advantage of the US pre-clearance at Shannon?

If not, could it be possible to move the pre-clearance operations to LCY and have direct flights?
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There are AL flights all year round from SNN to the US and Norwegian have just started up.

There will be no preclearance in LCY...too small.
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There are AL flights all year round from SNN to the US and Norwegian have just started up.

There will be no preclearance in LCY...too small.
The owners of LCY have invested 344M £ to expand the terminal last year so there might be a possibility to install preclearance facilities as part of the expansion works.
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