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Old October 17th, 2017, 09:26 PM   #621
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I'd say the CS500 programme will launch imminently
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Old October 17th, 2017, 11:02 PM   #622
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anyone answer my question in post #609 Thank you in Advance !
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Old October 17th, 2017, 11:09 PM   #623
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Old October 18th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #624
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So, Airbus get 50 of cseries, with buyout option in 2023. It get further 700 mio financing from Bombardier and pays 0€.

Can we call this best deal of the century?
...aand even after all that Bombardiers shares rose by 20% today.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 08:58 AM   #625
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Can we expect the models models to be rebranded to A314 and A315 with a potential two stretches in the future.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 09:04 AM   #626
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This way when Airbus does a NEO replacement they focus on a A320/321 clean sheet replacement with an additional stretch to compete with Boeings 797.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 09:11 AM   #627
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...aand even after all that Bombardiers shares rose by 20% today.
20% wasn't that much considering their share where basically worthless at just a couple of Canadian dollars per share.

Any positive news could have done the same.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 11:19 AM   #628
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Old October 19th, 2017, 03:55 AM   #629
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Airbus Pledges to Put C Series Ahead of A319 in Sales Push

Airbus SE will prioritize sales of Bombardier Inc.’s C Series jet over the smallest version of its own single-aisle plane while seeking to adapt the model’s key elements for future projects following the surprise tie-up between the companies, according to Chief Executive Officer Tom Enders.

Airbus will “definitely” push the Canadian model’s largest variant, the CS300, at the expense of the similarly sized A319neo, Enders said in an interview Wednesday. The European planemaker hasn’t announced a new airline customer for the jet in five years, since Bombardier’s aircraft emerged as a serious rival.

“That was the last time we sold the plane,” he said. “That tells you something about the competition between the A319 and the C Series.”

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Old October 24th, 2017, 11:19 PM   #630
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20% wasn't that much considering their share where basically worthless at just a couple of Canadian dollars per share.

Any positive news could have done the same.
I'm sorry already for this nitpick and I'm sure you are aware, but I just have to mention company A having share value €0.20 and B having €100 is not comparable and doesn't tell the market cap of the company outside of the psychological aspect of example avoiding penny stock allocation.
Bombardier's market cap was $5.1 billion before the announcement and is now $6.3 billion.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #631
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Potential New Order:

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http://www.fliegerfaust.com/egyptair...500853120.html

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EgyptAir acquires 12 Bombardier CSeries CS300 and is looking for money for further purchases

The largest expansion of the fleet in the history of the company



October 24, 2017

EgyptAir (MS) is going to purchase 12 Bombardier CS300 aircraft .

This is reported by the Daily Egypt News with reference to unnamed sources in the airline. Sources said that the company decided to use the 130-passenger aircraft instead of the company's Embraers, which will be put up for sale.

In addition, the carrier intends to buy 6 airliners Boeing 787 Dreamliner (modification not disclosed), the first of which will be delivered in the first quarter of 2019.

Finally, EgyptAir plans to receive 15 Airbus A320 aircraft , and is now working to conclude an agreement with the manufacturer on the option for additional aircraft. That is, trying to fix quite favorable conditions for further purchases in small lots.

Read https://dailynewsegypt.com/2017/10/22/egyptair-agr...

and read it all https://aeronautica.online/2017/10/24/egyptair-to-...
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Old October 27th, 2017, 10:39 AM   #632
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I am seeing rumors (from insiders) that Bombardier has sold the de Havilland Q400 program - sad if true. No indication yet of who the buyer is . If true it begs the question what will happen to Downsview? Downsview is also where the Bombardier flagship Global business jet is manufactured. Will production move out of Toronto? Is Bombardier planing on selling off it's biz jet business as well? Sad times for Canadian aerospace.
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Old October 27th, 2017, 01:24 PM   #633
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What is the likelihood of the CS100, CS300 and the potential CS500 becoming the Airbus A360-100, A360-300 and the A360-500 ?
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Old October 27th, 2017, 03:54 PM   #634
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None in the next 5 years but Airbus can take control after that. Over the next 5 years I would expect a 500 and even a 700.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 09:00 PM   #635
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I am seeing rumors (from insiders) that Bombardier has sold the de Havilland Q400 program - sad if true. No indication yet of who the buyer is . If true it begs the question what will happen to Downsview? Downsview is also where the Bombardier flagship Global business jet is manufactured. Will production move out of Toronto? Is Bombardier planing on selling off it's biz jet business as well? Sad times for Canadian aerospace.
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Bombardier Q400 Division Sold to China

According to sources, Bombardier Inc. is in the process of totally exiting the Commercial Aircraft business, really?

As it was the case with the CSeries, the goal here is to relinquish the company majority ownership in its entire Commercial Aircraft programs but to remain in the business as a supplier to others instead.

Bombardier Commercial Aircraft

Following such a scenario, the goal would no longer be to hold any majority ownership, nor play a management role in any aircraft program, as Bombardier would be satisfied to act as a mere supplier and/or consultant. Offering a pointed expertise and qualified engineering services would now be the degree of involvement Bombardier would be readily willing to accept as far the "Commercial Aircraft" business is concerned, as they've just accomplished with the CSeries.

CSeries

In the case of the CSeries, --after "the deal" with Airbus is signed--, Bombardier will become one of the most important suppliers to the CSeries Company supplying the aircraft cockpit (built by Bombardier in St-Laurent/Montreal Quebec), the aircraft wings (built by Bombardier in Belfast, UK), aircraft doors (Bombardier Mexico and another business running under a different name but now owned by Bombardier), a section of the fuselage (built by Bombardier China), engineering services for CSeries modifications, improvements, etc. (*CSeries Bombardier Ownership, read my note at the bottom of this article)

Q400

What I've been told is that Bombardier is selling the Q400 division in its totality to a buyer in China. After the Canadian Federal government asked Bombardier not to sell the CSeries to the Chinese who offered to purchase it --a program so heavily ladden with new technologies-- Ottawa let it be known it would be perfectly able to live with the transfer of the total ownership of the Q400 to China. With nearly all fuselage components already built in China it would now remain to be seen for how long Bombardier would continue supplying the aircraft's cockpit currently made in Downsview/Toronto, when would this be transfert to China with the rest of the fuselage construction . We should assume new assembly lines would be installed in China.

CRJ

The CRJ aircraft would then be the only one left for Bombardier to jettison, de facto eliminating its Commercial Aircraft Division. To now focus on its highly profitable Business Aircraft division and its Transport Division (owned at 70% by Bombardier Inc, 30% by the Caisse de Dépôt et placements du Québec)

Bombardier Commercial Aircraft liquidation check list:
CSeries Check/Gone
Q400 Check/Gone
CRJ Check/?

So, from what I was able to find, Bombardier is trying to "let go" the CRJ program too.

Sources reporting that Bombardier salespeople are contacting CRJ clients waiting for their new aircraft deliveries trying to convert them into CSeries instead

source - http://www.fliegerfaust.com/q400-sol...502191746.html
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With that partnership, I could see the next 20 years this way:

Airbus building a 757-sized C-series style 6-abreast narrowbody.

Boeing building an A310-sized 787 style 7-abreast elliptical widebody.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 06:27 PM   #639
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Bombardier has signed a letter of intent with a European customer for up to 61 of its C Series regional jets, the aircraft that has been at the centre of a transatlantic trade dispute with US rival Boeing.

The letter covers 31 firm aircraft orders and options for another 30 planes, the Canadian group said. Based on the jet maker’s list prices, the firm order would be worth around $2.4bn, rising to $4.8bn if all 30 options were exercised. It expects to sign a purchase agreement before the end of the year.

Over the past two months, US trade officials announced anti-dumping duties of 300 per cent on the C Series after ruling that Bombardier received unfair subsidies from Canada and UK for the plane.

The prohibitive level of the subsidies threatened thousands of jobs in Northern Ireland and Canada, prompted a diplomatic spat and sent Bombardier into the arms of Europe’s Airbus, which took a majority stake in the C Series business.

“This significant new order confirms the increasing confidence customers have in the C Series,” Bombardier president and chief executive Alain Bellemare said. “Looking forward, as Airbus joins the program, and with the C Series continuing to prove itself in service, we expect sales momentum to accelerate quickly.”

Bombardier on Thursday reported revenues of $3.8bn for its third quarter, up 3 per cent from the same time last year. But its net loss increased 24 per cent, to $117m from $94m a year earlier. Adjusted earnings per share edged down from $0 in the 2016 third quarter to minus $0.01 in its latest period.

The group said it expects consolidated full year earnings before interest, tax and special items to be at least $630m, at the high end of previous guidance, as the company reported “solid progress” on its two-year-old turnround plan. In the latest quarter, the ebit before specials figure was $165m, near twice the equivalent number last year.

Mr Bellemare added:

This was a very exciting quarter for Bombardier as we welcomed Airbus to the C Series program. This is a game-changing step for Bombardier. It positions the C Series program for long-term commercial success and will generate new and sustainable value for our customers, suppliers and shareholders.
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Bombardier has signed a letter of intent with a European customer for up to 61 of its C Series regional jets, the aircraft that has been at the centre of a transatlantic trade dispute with US rival Boeing.

The letter covers 31 firm aircraft orders and options for another 30 planes, the Canadian group said. Based on the jet maker’s list prices, the firm order would be worth around $2.4bn, rising to $4.8bn if all 30 options were exercised. It expects to sign a purchase agreement before the end of the year.


So it begins, many more orders coming soon I expect..
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