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Old May 17th, 2014, 01:21 PM   #201
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Gołogóry - Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, now Ukraine



The castle in Gołogóry was built by the Gołogórski family (Dębno coat of arms) in the 15th century. It was destroyed and rebuilt many times over centuries. In the 19th century the castle was largely dismantled.

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Gołogóry Castle in ca.1905
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Pniów - Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, now Ukraine



Pniów Castle was founded by Paweł Kuropatwa (Szreniawa coat of arms) in the 16th century. The castle was damaged by Cossacks and Turks in the 17th century. Since the end of the 18th century, it was largely dismantled.

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Lubień Wielki - Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, now Ukraine



The palace in Lubień Wielki was founded by the Humiecki family in the 17th century, rebuilt in Late Baroque in the 18th century. The Brunicki family owned the palace since the 19th century until 1939. Like many Poles, who couldn't or didn't want to move to the new territories of Communists ruled Poland, they emigrated to England (London) after WW2.






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Old May 20th, 2014, 09:45 AM   #205
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The last phrase in that news explains everything - "(...)Offers for sale of palaces and mansions are targeted to Russian businessmen".
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Old May 20th, 2014, 12:14 PM   #206
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Of course it says/explains, but when is complete and correctly translated

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Spadkobiercy dawnych właścicieli mieszkający przeważnie w Polsce nie mają funduszy na wykupienie majątków, niektórzy czekają na restytucję, jednak przy obecnej sytuacji politycznej jest to praktycznie nierealne. Dlatego oferty sprzedaży pałaców i zamków kierowane do rosyjskich przedsiębiorców.
"Inheritors of the former owners living in Poland at the most, don't have funds to buy-back the mansions, some are waiting for restitution but with the current geopolitical situation it is practically impossible. That's why sell offers of palaces and castles are targeted to the Russian businessmen."

Sounds slightly different when quoted in a larger part isn't it?

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Complete translation would be highly appreciated, true. I don't want to argue with you (beside, this thread is not for discussions and also my English is very rough).
But, be honest - in current political situation in Belarus, would you spent your hard earned money in buying and restorations of some neglected palace - if you weren't a Russian businessman?
Hint - "inheritors of the former owners are waiting for restitution"...
Well I find it kinda funny, as I know you can read in Polish and even knowing that you are unable to understand the text (no offence)
Let me give you some hints too:

geopolitical situation = no chance for restitution
EU blocking investments in Belarus = no investors from EU = no former owners to be able to buy-back the palaces - most of them are Polish
no chance for buying it by former owners (beside lack of money) = offer targeted to those who can and have money

And yes, if I had spare nickels in my pocket I would buy them even tomorrow.

Please keep this topic away from politics, as I believe we all appreciate the IQ of all of the people taking part in discussion. There is no need for fantasy or political fiction here, those magnificent buildings are enough. Thanks!

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Of course it says/explains, but when is complete and correctly translated


"Inheritors of the former owners living in Poland at the most, don't have funds to buy-back the mansions, some are waiting for restitution but with the current geopolitical situation it is practically impossible. That's why sell offers of palaces and castles are targeted to the Russian businessmen."

Sounds slightly different when quoted in a larger part isn't it?
Complete translation would be highly appreciated, true. I don't want to argue with you (beside, this thread is not for discussions and also my English is very rough).
But, be honest - in current political situation in Belarus, would you spent your hard earned money in buying and restorations of some neglected palace - if you weren't a Russian businessman?
Hint - "inheritors of the former owners are waiting for restitution"...
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Old May 20th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #208
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In addition to the post #171...

Palace "Stanisławówka" in Grodno was built in the second half of the 18th century for King Stanisław August Poniatowski of Poland according to the project of Giuseppe de Sacco. After the partitions of Poland, the palace was confiscated by the Russian authorities. In the 19th century, the property was bought by the Drucki-Lubecki family who owned the palace until 1939. The façade of the palace is decorated with initials of King Stanisław August Poniatowski of Poland.





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Other palaces in Grodno...
Czetwertyński palace
Chreptowicz palace (in the 19th century owned by the Musznicki and Lechnicki families)
Walicki palace (in the 19th century converted into Orthodox bishops residence)
Radziwiłł palace (destroyed after 1939)
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 09:43 PM   #209
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Żejmy - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



The palace in Żejmy was built by Józef Kossakowski (Ślepowron coat of arms) in 1787 and was owned by the Kossakowski family until 1941. After WW2, the family moved to the new territories of Poland.





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* Photos by Mariop70 (brilliant threads - LINK1, LINK2)
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Murowana - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



The palace/manor in Murowana was founded by the Jundziłł family (Łabędź coat of arms) in the second half of the 18th century. The residence was given to daughter of Wiktor Jundziłł, Maria as her dowry in 1858 (she married Stanisław Sułtan). The Sułtan family owned the palace/manor until 1939, they settled near Warsaw after WW2.


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Siesiki - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



Rennaisance castle in Siesiki was built by Gabriel Dowmunt-Siesicki (Bawola Głowa coat of arms) in the 16th century. The castle was damaged during the Great Northern War. Since 1745 it was owned by the Dowgiałło family, Kazimierz Dowgiałło rebuilt the castle in the second half of the 18th century (it was renovated in the 1820s). The Dowgiałło family owned the palace until 1940, after the war they moved to the new territories of Poland.





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Antuzów - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



The palace/manor in Antuzów was built by the Plater family in the 18th century. Since 1840 it was a property of the Ledóchowski family (Ludwika Plater married Franciszek Halka-Ledóchowski). In the late 19th century, the palace was owned by the Ropp family. In 1936 Edward Ropp transferred estate archive to Poland. Daughters of Bogumiła Elżbieta Halka-Ledóchowska & Juliusz Kazimierz Ludwik Ropp, Elżbieta Franciszka was killed by Soviets in 1945, and Ludwika moved to Warsaw after the war.

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Biały Kowel - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



Biały Kowel Castle was built by Samuel Szymon Sanguszko in 1626. Samuel Szymon Sanguszko was a first member of the family who converted from Orthodox to Catholicism and became Polonized, he married Anna Zawisza in ca.1600. The residence was badly damaged during the Russo-Polish War and Great Northern War. The Sanguszko family moved from ruined Biały Kowel Castle to Sławuta (link) in the 18th century.

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Ruins of the castle and Dominican monastery (built in the 17th-18th century)
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Gojcieniszki - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



Fortified manor in Gojcieniszki was built by Piotr Nonhart (Nonhaerdt) between 1611 and 1613. Piotr Nonhart and his brother, Stanisław moved to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from Courland in the late 16th century, as Calvinists they probably escaped religious persecution. Piotr married Podbereska and became Polonized. Over the years, Gojcieniszki residence was passed through marriages onto various noble families. Since ca.1830 it was a property of the Rymsza family (Gozdawa coat of arms), they owned the manor until 1939. The family fled from annexed by Soviets territiory to Poland after WW2 (daughter of the last owner of the manor, Edward Rymsza, was Zofia Rymsza-Sienkiewicz, she died in Warsaw in 2001).



The chapel near the residence was founded by Zuzanna Chreptowicz (née Nonhart) in 1633. Owners of Gojcieniszki were buried there - link

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Why do you polonise the names?
It is Siesikai, not Siesiki as this place still lies in Lithuania. Daugėlos also were Lithuanians.
Same for Žeimiai.

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OMG, it's Vytautas the Great!
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It is Siesikai, not Siesiki as this place still lies in Lithuania. Same for Žeimiai.
Ok, let's clarify something here. The official language in Grand Duchy of Lithuania was Polish since 1697, and before that it was Ruthenian (since the 15th century, language mutually intelligible with Polish - The First Statute from 1529 written with the Latin alphabet). The language used by the founders and residents of those palaces, castles, manors in Grand Duchy of Lithuania was Polish (and before ~1600s very likely Ruthenian). The last rigthful owners of residences in Siesiki and Żejmy moved to Poland during or after WW2 and they were not identifying themselves with Lietuvai nation, language, etc., rather the opposite. If you will present any pre-1772 maps with Lietuvos place names (very doubtful) mentioned by you, I'll update my posts. If not, I'll continue to show official names used before the partitions of Poland.

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Daugėlos also were Lithuanians.
First of all, the Dowgiałło family owned Siesiki, not some "Daugėlos" (marriage certificate of Siesiki's owner Stanisław Grzegorz Ignacy Dowgiałło and Idalia Potocka from 1853, you can also check epitaphs in Siesiki). Secondly, all members (without exception) of the Dowgiałło family from Siesiki fled to Poland in the first half of the 20th century (more).

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it's Vytautas
Any document from the 14th-16th century with the name "Vytautas"?
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Płotycz - Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, now Ukraine



Płotycz was owned by the Korytowski family since the 17th century until 1939. The palace was built by Felicjan Korytowski in the second half of the 18th century.


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Rychcice - Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, now Ukraine



Rychcice was a property of the Bielski family since the first half of the 18th century until 1939. They built Classical palace in Rychcice in the 1780s.



More pre-war photos here and the Bielski family chapel.
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Krysowice - Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, now Ukraine



Palace in Krysowice was built by the Mniszek family in a 60 hectares park in the 18th century. It was given as dowry to Ludgarda Mniszek, she married Edward Piotr Franciszek Stadnicki in 1843. The Stadnicki family owned the palace until 1939.

The palace and Baroque chapel


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Mosarz - Grand Duchy of Lithuania



Palace in Mosarz was built by the Brzostowski family (Strzemię coat of arms) between 1775 and 1790 (they owned Mosarz since ca.1670). They also founded Roman Catholic church in 1792. In the 1870s the palace was acquired by Edmund Piłsudski, it was in hands of the Piłsudski family until 1939. The last owner Kalikst Józef Piłsudski and his daughter Wanda were killed by Nazis, second daughter Maria survived the war.



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