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Old March 16th, 2013, 10:13 AM   #41
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It's really unusual that a gothic chapel is decorated with the Byzatine frescoes. What's the story behind it?
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It's really unusual that a gothic chapel is decorated with the Byzatine frescoes. What's the story behind it?
Unusual, but it looks great.
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Jogaila (in polish Władysław II Jagiełło) commissioned a set of wall paintings for the chapel, which were completed in 1418 and are preserved to this day.[2] The author was a Ruthenian Master Andrej, who signed his work on one of the walls.[2] Due to their unique style, mixing Western and Eastern Orthodox influences, they are acclaimed internationally as an important historical monument.[1]
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Are there any drawings, sketches, or paintings of the castle before it was rebuilt in the Neo-Gothic style?
There's this copperplate of Lublin from "Civitates orbis terrarum" - huge atlas of the cities all over the world from XVI/XVII century (it was was prepared for 45 years by Georg Braun and Abraham Hogenberg).

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The castle is on the right side (the castle chapel is signed "S.S.Trinitatis").



Also the painting of the great fire of the Lublin in 1719 (the castle is on the left side). The painting is from around 1740.

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You can also see the castle (and the rest of the Lublin city) from each side in 3d in Google Earth (the models show how we think the city looked in 14th, 16th, 18th and early 20th century). It's reconstructed by "Teatr NN" - institution that documents Lublin history. Starting page

Looks roughly like this:


EDIT I love how they overdo the height of the towers in old paintings
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Panemunė/Gelgaudai, Vytėnai castle

Located in Western part of Lithuania, on the right bank of Nemunas river.
The initial hillfort of the Teutonic Knights (erected 1343) was replaced by a castle built in 1604-1610 and reconstructed around 1759 by Gelgaudai family. Remaining wings of the castle have been recently restored.



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I know someone already did this, but I would like to add on to it. The Royal castle in Warsaw was never historically red the color was chosen after it was rebuilt almost at random( or the Soviet Unions favorite color, i dunno exactly) Prior to WWII it was white and prior to its color change in the early 19th century it was a sandy color like Wawel.

look closely at the Clock tower and you'll see its original color.\

In this one the castle is in the back, although it looks reddish thats simply the sunset making it look red.

This is the original floor plan of the castle during the early 1600's.

design of the castles eastern wing(not really sure if this existed)

Currently the Saxon facade facing the Wisła is being renovated. Hopefully, for me at least, the rest of the castle will be renovated to its grandest appearance during its grandest days.
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Royal castle - Warsaw, Poland
Crown of the Kingdom of Poland



This massive brick edifice, began life as a wooden stronghold of the dukes of Mazovia in the 14th century. Its heyday came in the mid-17th century, when it became one of Europe's most splendid royal residences, and during the reign of Stanisław August Poniatowski (1764-95) when its grand Baroque apartments were created. It then served the tsars, and in 1918, after Poland had regained its independence, it became the residence of the president. Today it is filled with period furniture, works of art, and an army of old ladies watching your every move.

Two floors of the castle are open to the public. Route I takes in the Court Apartments, the Parliament Chambers and the Crown Prince's Apartment, split between the ground and 1st floor, while Route II covers the Great Apartment and the King's Apartment on the 1st floor. Arguably the most impressive rooms are included in Route II, hence the price difference.

Dominating the Great Apartment is the magnificent Great Assembly Hall. It has been restored to its 1781 dcor of dazzling gilded stucco and golden columns. The enormous ceiling painting, The Disentanglement of Chaos, is a postwar re-creation of a work by Marcello Bacciarelli showing King Stanisław bringing order to the world. The king's face also appears in a marble medallion above the main door, flanked by the allegorical figures of Peace and Justice.

The neighbouring National Hall was conceived by the king as a national pantheon; the six huge canvases (surviving originals) depict pivotal scenes from Polish history. Surprisingly the ceiling has been left bare. A door leads off the hall into the smaller Marble Room, decorated in 16th-century style with coloured marble and trompe l'œil painting. The room houses 22 portraits of Polish kings, from Bolesław Chrobry to a large gilt-framed image of Stanisław August Poniatowski himself.

Further on from the National Hall is the lavishly decorated Throne Room. The dominant colour here is Regal Red, but there's also plenty of gold trimming, and 86 Polish eagles worked from silver wire. Connected to the Throne Room by a short corridor is the King's Apartment, the highlight of which is the Canaletto Room at the far end. An impressive array of 23 paintings by Bernardo Bellotto (1721-80), better known in Poland as Canaletto (he used the name of his more famous uncle), captures Warsaw in great detail from its heyday in the mid-1700s. The works were of immense help in reconstructing the city's historic monuments.

Overlooking Castle Sq from the 1st floor is the Crown Prince's Apartment. The lavishness of the rooms here are overshadowed by the collection of historical paintings by Jan Matejko; look for his most famous work, The Constitution of the 3rd of May 1791, which shows a triumphant King Stanisław being borne into the castle on the shoulders of a jubilant crowd.

Read more: Read more: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/poland/w...#ixzz2Lx74MffR


http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/340/340493.jpg


http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/89/89701.jpg

Courtyard

http://www.warszawa-przewodnik.pl/ga...o/70650010.jpg


http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/361/361851.jpg


http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/131/131936.jpg

Interiors:

Audiential hall

https://www.warsawtour.pl/sites/defa...olewski_01.jpg

Marmor hall

http://www.impresja.com.pl/produkty/...i-zamek/02.jpg


http://histmag.org/grafika/articles5...-marmurowa.jpg

Knights hall

http://ola-094.blog.onet.pl/wp-conte...49_tr_ek01.jpg


http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6...038640x480.jpg

Ball hall - Great hall

http://www.dioblina.pl/files/dioblin...?itok=LoJL0q_g


http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4...012640x480.jpg

Ceiling:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__9CEy6QLJ-...09_net_fr1.jpg

Throne hall

http://www.wycieczki-szkolne.org.pl/...7852475dc6.jpg


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__9CEy6QLJ-...23_net_fr1.jpg

Sejm hall - Reconstruction of the room where the constitution of may 3 1791 was voted over

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WVedCRM4w5...enatorska1.jpg


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Kings apartment

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Canaletto room


Royal chapel

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Could you add photos how this castle looked like after WWII
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Could you add photos how this castle looked like after WWII
1945:

http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/368/368675.jpg


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Sad, I think then for local people was absolutely brutal view to see their state ruins of history.
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Sad, I think then for local people was absolutely brutal view to see their state ruins of history.
But at least almost all castle interiors are original (evacuated 1939-1944)
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Gomel Palace




The Rumyantsev-Paskevich Residence is the main place of historical importance in the city of Gomel, Belarus. The grounds of the residence stretch for 800 meters along the steep right bank of the Sozh River. An image of the residence is featured on the Belarusian 20,000-ruble bill.
The two-storey palace of Field Marshal Pyotr Rumyantsev was built between 1777 and 1796 to a Neoclassical design attributed to Ivan Starov. The palace replaced the ruined castle of Gomel's previous owner, Michael Frederick Czartoryski.[2] The central part is surmounted by a square belvedere with a wide flat dome. The six-columned Corinthian portico faces an extensive English park. The main portico is placed on a high platform and is supported by four Corinthian columns.
After Pyotr Rumyantsev's death in 1796, the grounds were slowly improved by his son Nicholas (1754-1826). His brother Sergei was the next owner. He was never interested in country housekeeping and promptly sold the palace to the crown (1834). Gomel was immediately purchased by another Field Marshal, Ivan Paskevich, who had both the palace and the park substantially renovated. He employed architect Adam Idźkowski to add a four-storey tower and a three-storey wing to the existing structure.



Main entrance to the palace
After the Russian Revolution the palace was nationalized to house a local museum. Paskevich's daughter-in-law Irina had to move from the palace into an ordinary flat. The buildings sustained heavy damage in the Russian Civil War and World War II.[4] They were shared by the Gomel History Museum and the local pioneers' palace until the late 1990s. The current Neoclassical interiors result from a late 1990s restoration campaign.
The park contains a modern statue of Count Nikolay Rumyantsev. The original marble statues of Euripides, Venus, Athena, Ares, Bacchus, and the Nymph were lost. It was only in 2006 that the replacement statues were put in place. The Paskevich art collection also boasted several paintings by Ivan Kramskoi, Marcin Zaleski, and January Suchodolski, as well as a marble bust of Count Rumyantsev by Antonio Canova.

The bronze equestrian statue of Prince Joseph Poniatowski by Bertel Thorvaldsen, which Paskevich had brought from Warsaw as a trophy in 1842, was dismantled by the Poles during the Polish-Soviet War and transported back to Warsaw, only to be destroyed by the Germans in the 1940s. Its copy stands in front of the Presidential Palace, Warsaw.
Other buildings on the grounds are the Russian Revival chapel with the tombs of Ivan Paskevich and his family, a winter garden (which originated as Prince Paskevich's sugar-mill), several subsidiary outbuildings, and a set of cannons captured by Paskevich's soldiers in the course of the Russo-Turkish War (18281829).
By far the most conspicuous landmark in the park is the Neoclassical church of Sts. Peter and Paul. It was commissioned by Count Nikolay Rumyantsev from architect John Clark in 1809 but was not consecrated until 1824. The church is the seat of the local Orthodox bishopric.


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The Palace under Metal Plate - Warsaw, Poland
Crown of the Kingdom of Poland



'The Palace under Metal Plate' is a part of Royal Castle. Its strange name comes from the copper roofing which was not too popular in 1720s. Because of atmospheric factors today the roof has a light-green colour.

In the 17th century the bulding was a townhouse, however Jerzy Dominik Lubomirski initiated its remodelling into the fascinating palace we can see today. Prince Josef Poniatowski, a hero of the Napoleonic Wars as well as his uncle, the last king of Poland, Stanislaus Augustus Poniatowski lived there. Since 1932, the northern wing of the castle has hosted an exhibition of oriental carpets. Also, restorers' workshops are located there. During the renovation works in 2004 a sensational discovery was made. Archeologists discovered the remains of an oval medieval burgh under the courtyard, which was more extensive than could have been expected.


http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/303/303211.jpg


http://spacerowicz.com.pl/wp-content...3/IMG_6411.jpg


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hwzKq7kZceQ/TM...%85%202010.jpg

Interiors

http://www.polskiekrajobrazy.pl/imag.../big/91453.JPG


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Actually atmospheric factors have little to do with copper turning green(although it becomes green much quicker in moist environments), its a long process usually over the span of many years. Kind of like how iron turns to rust only, when it happens to copper it actually preserves it, instead of corroding it.
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I thought that they rebuilt the interiors too
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Palace of the counts Zamoyski family in Kozłwka, Poland:








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Counts Leszczyński castle in Baranw Sandomierski, Poland:








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Niepolomice Royal Castle - Niepołomice, Poland
Crown of the Kingdom of Poland


The Niepołomice Castle was built by order of King Casimir III the Great on the slope of the Vistula valley, to serve as a retreat during the hunting expeditions to the nearby Niepołomice Forest.[1][2] The castle consisted of three towers, buildings in the southern and eastern wing, and curtain walls around the courtyard. Sigismund I the Old rebuilt the structure, giving it the form of a quadrangle with an internal courtyard. Queen Bona Sforza's gardens were located on the southern flank. In 1550 a great fire destroyed the east and north wings. The reconstruction works were conducted in 1551-1568 under the supervision of Tomasz Grzymała and a sculptor Santi Gucci. Since the end of the 16th century the castle passed into the hands of noble families of Curyło, Branicki and Lubomirski. At that time, only the small changes were made in the castle's interiors (fireplaces, ceilings). The construction of an arcade courtyard began in 1635 and was completed in 1637.The Swedish-Brandenburgian invasion in 1655 brought an end to the magnificence of the building. The castle was transformed into a food store during the occupation. In the 18th century it was acquired by King Augustus II the Strong and Augustus III. The renovation of the former royal residence began in 1991, when it became the property of Niepołomice Municipality.


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Palace of the counts Zamoyski family in Kozłwka, Poland:
Crown of the Kingdom of Poland




Interiors of the Kozłwka palace

http://cdn8.podroze.smcloud.net/t/im...tandardowy.jpg



http://www.muzeumzamoyskich.pl/skins...=4bac67534eef9


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The White hall

http://www.muzeumzamoyskich.pl/skins...=4bacab7ae8dcd


http://www.muzeumzamoyskich.pl/skins...=4bacabb9a3139

The red hall

http://www.muzeumzamoyskich.pl/skins...=4baca54082135


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Chapel

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Here's a map of late 15th century Krakw. In the back you can see Wawel just 2 decades before it was remodeled to its current renaissance splendor.



It says that this map is facing west but, i think its closer to south-west (or south east, this map was poorly made). This map is very inaccurate, however as i see no trace of the Sukiennice, or the town hall.

Here's a better one with it clearly facing east, near the end of the 16th century.

St mary's was apparently white back then.
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Poignant. What memories and ghosts walk those rooms and gardens?
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