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Old March 16th, 2013, 05:29 PM   #41
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Will the spires/doms of the church be reunited with their original-looking crosses during the process of remaking the area into its classic form? The current contemporary cross atop the Dom looks pretty tacky.
I wish it was, but the evangelical church is far from being rich, thus we can't bet on them doing it.

So far there's no real plans to reconstruct the cathedral spires/turrets and the dome.

I bet there will be a time after the Palace reconstruction when we can pop up with this and make it move forward!
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The church would not do it even if they had the money. During the last refurbishment works at the cupola which included a new cross on the top, the "Gesellschaft Historisches Berlin" (sth. like "society of historic Berlin") made the proposal to reconstruct the lanterns. They were "kicked out" by the church community. http://www.welt.de/regionales/berlin...iner-Doms.html

Besides the current status was declared as a monument itself.
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Why don't they want a reconstruction? Besides, with the original domes the cathedral would look a lot better....
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Old March 16th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #44
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^ There are many historians, art scientists and authors referring to the Berlin City Castle "as the most important baroque inner-city royal residence in art history". (this sentence would be far shorter in German ) So indeed, it'd be fair to say that.

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This encapsulates the simple truth as to why this building and others lost over the years need to be rebuilt in honest, original appearances. We should not discard or not maintain important history. Period.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #45
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Dom looks awfull compared to prewar pictures....

The Dom looks awfull compared to prewar pictures, without its 5 spiring Laterns and original higher dome. Next to the Dom was a chapel and grand stairs also made the whole better looking..........

Dom soll nach originelle Pläne von Raschdorf rekonstruiert werden. Auf alten Bilder kann mann ein eindrucksvoller Dom sehen die daneben elegant augt mit erhöhten Kuppel und 5 schöne Laternen. Was das Bild noch besser macht sind die Taufkapelle neben den Dom, Treppen und natürlich im Hintergrund das Schloss mit noch einer herrlichen Kuppel. Soll dann weiter gebaut werden am verschwunden Altstadt, so das das Berliner Herz nach 70 Jahren wieder schlägt.........und wir Atemlos da stehen.
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The church would not do it even if they had the money. During the last refurbishment works at the cupola which included a new cross on the top, the "Gesellschaft Historisches Berlin" (sth. like "society of historic Berlin") made the proposal to reconstruct the lanterns. They were "kicked out" by the church community. http://www.welt.de/regionales/berlin...iner-Doms.html
This seems very counter-productive. Why would you oppose the restoration of your building? What, is the church community made up of an army of modernists?
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Besides the current status was declared as a monument itself.
This is something I will never understand and I truly believe it is modernists using it as a tool in their war against classical architecture. The inmates running the asylum.

In the US, it would require something EXTREME for non-historical additions and reconstructions to be protected, especially if it got in the way of the structure's restoration.
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Old June 6th, 2013, 11:19 AM   #47
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Cutting through the Humboldt-Forum / Berlin City Palace:

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You'll always find updates first in our DWF construction thread for Berlin's City Palace.
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Current view of the Berlin City Palace construction site seen from river Spree in May:
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More construction updates and pics from streetlevel and above: BERLIN | City Palace Reconstruction - "Humboldt-Forum" @ World Development News Forums
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Source and ©: Förderverein Berliner Stadtschloss
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I wish they weren't putting the dome back on as I think it unbalances the exterior of the building. It wasn't even added until the 1840s and wasn't part of Schlüter's design. It's a shame the money can't be spent instead on recreating Schlüter's original sequence of rooms including the Gigantentreppe and Rittersaal.




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The area has been fully prepared and sub-levels readied for construction to begin.


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Wolfpaw: I think the dome of the Palace is badly needed to make it an interesting building. It'd would look terribly bland without it and wouldn't complement the Museum Island and Cathedral well.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 05:31 PM   #53
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Cornerstone of Berlin's City Palace laid yesterday noon (June 12 2013), by Germany's President Jo Gauck!

(1443 refers to the first construction of the Palace here)


http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleto...-12219068.html


A time capsule was of course included that is enwrapped there. It consists of a daily newspaper of today, the original plans by Stella for the current Palace, the President's certificate for the reconstruction and the current set of German Euro coins.
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The whole foundation stone ceremony today at the German Phoenix channel:


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Current update from above (seen from Berlin Cathedral/Dom), by German user Ludi taken yesterday:











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Two more historical images of Berlin's City Palace, credits to noisrevid for finding!



After WW2, it could easily have been saved by the GDR government, but was blown up due to political reasons:


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Nice graphic from Berliner Zeitung (if you have issues understanding the stuff written, just ask ):


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Visualization of the Castle / Humboldt-Forum including the urban space next to it, the subway station entrances (U-Bahn) and the Cathedral in its historical appearance with imperial lanterns and the old cupola!


http://www.berlinstory.de/wp-content...ive-1_1000.jpg


Berlin Cathedral in 1900:

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Wolfpaw: I think the dome of the Palace is badly needed to make it an interesting building. It'd would look terribly bland without it and wouldn't complement the Museum Island and Cathedral well.
I think you're probably right about the dome being needed to make the building more interesting, especially with the close proximity of the cathedral. Maybe it will look will look better when you're down at street level anyway. Although that said, and without the dome the stadtschloss would look more like the Potsdam City Palace, a building which I think is especially beautiful (although maybe that's got the Fortuna Gate to liven it up a bit!).

Either way, who would've thought we'd get to the day when the foundation stone was being laid for a reconstructed Berlin City Palace. If only they'd sort the dome of the cathedral out too.

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The Dom looks awfull compared to prewar pictures, without its 5 spiring Laterns and original higher dome. Next to the Dom was a chapel and grand stairs also made the whole better looking...
The post-war dome makes the whole building look squat
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