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View Poll Results: please vote
mercury city tower 12 19.67%
eurasia 9 14.75%
city of capitals 14 22.95%
naberezhnaya 10 16.39%
triumph palace 7 11.48%
saphire 9 14.75%
moscow state university 14 22.95%
imperia tower 9 14.75%
palace of culture and science 11 18.03%
mosfilmovskaya 10 16.39%
warsaw trade tower 7 11.48%
hotel ukraine 9 14.75%
anthill residence 3 4.92%
varyap towers 8 13.11%
zlota 44 16 26.23%
antey 3 5 8.20%
rondo 1 10 16.39%
gulliver building 4 6.56%
flame towers 16 26.23%
isbank tower 5 8.20%
sparrow hills 4 6.56%
edelweiss 4 6.56%
kotelnicheskaya 6 9.84%
aliye parusa (scarlet sails) 3 4.92%
avaz twist tower 6 9.84%
ministry of foreign affairs 11 18.03%
nordstar 5 8.20%
sisli plaza 4 6.56%
tekstilkent plaza 5 8.20%
swissotel krasnye 4 6.56%
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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:01 PM   #61
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Facepalm. Why didn't you write this word "sometimes" before Czech Rep., Slovakia, Hungary, only before Poland? So now please, show me this map which shows this "great eastern european context" where Poland is Eastern and Czech Rep, Slovakia and Hungary Central. I don't want anything more.
Historically, taking the Habsburg empire.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #62
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Historically whole Lithuania was under Russian occupation (and in 1897 in your Kaunas 26% of citizens were Russians and only 6% Lithuanians) while only part of Poland was under it (the two other parts were under Prussian and Austrian occupation, so western civilization), so you're more eastern than we are. This argument beats you.

And I want a reliable source not your imaginations. Which organization has the same opinion like you?

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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #63
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Klaipėdos kraštas was Prussia and Suvalkija-Suduva was occupaied by Prussia. But lm not talking about that, l'm talking about influence that this monarchy had for stats that where build on monarchy ash's.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:25 PM   #64
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Somehow we earn much more than you eastern neighbour/ex soviet state.
How much you earn, eastern neighbou/ex soviet satelit with bad routes?
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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #65
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Our average salary is about 40% higher than Lithuanian, yes we can afford much more since we have much bigger retail market and salaries. Sorry eastern neighbour.
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l want exact numbers - OK. Not just some bullshit talk.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #67
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Exact number are that we can afford much more from the average salary than Lithuanians do.
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Source?! Polish media?
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l want exact numbers - OK. Not just some bullshit talk.
Monthly average wage:

Lithuania 2232 LTL = 646 euro

Poland 3809 PLN = 901 euro

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Our average salary is about 40% higher than Lithuanian, yes we can afford much more since we have much bigger retail market and salaries. Sorry eastern neighbour.
28 % higher ...
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Now I believe, but I want that he find it
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Old August 25th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #71
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Doest the poll list have a Lithuanian building?
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Old August 25th, 2013, 11:45 PM   #72
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Klaipėdos kraštas was Prussia
But Klaipeda didn't belong to Grand Duchy of Lithuania.

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But lm not talking about that, l'm talking about influence that this monarchy had for stats that where build on monarchy ash's.
So what was the influence of Habsburg monarchy on Hungary that it's "different" Europe than Poland? And why the influence of Romanov monarchy doesn't make you eastern?
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So what was the influence of Habsburg monarchy on Hungary that it's "different" Europe than Poland?
Southern Poland/Galicia belonged to Cisleithania (northern and western part of Austria-Hungary) and Hungary belonged to Transleithania (eastern and southern part of A-H) and that's it. There was almost no difference.

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Lithuania, 100 years ago ( contemporary territory):

96 % belonged to Russian Empire and 4 % to German Empire.

Poland, 100 years ago ( contemporary territory):

50 % belonged to German Empire, 40 % to Russian Empire, 10 % to Austro-Hungarian Empire.


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So according to historical criteria that were chosen by Lithuanian RokasLT, Lithuania is in 96% eastern Europe, while Poland only in 40%.
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germany was really huge....
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Old August 26th, 2013, 11:46 AM   #76
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Doest the poll list have a Lithuanian building?
No, because it includes only EE. Lithuania is considered to be Northern Europe region. I wonder why some Poles reacts so loudly
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Old August 26th, 2013, 11:49 AM   #77
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Historically whole Lithuania was under Russian occupation (and in 1897 in your Kaunas 26% of citizens were Russians and only 6% Lithuanians) while only part of Poland was under it (the two other parts were under Prussian and Austrian occupation, so western civilization), so you're more eastern than we are. This argument beats you.

And I want a reliable source not your imaginations. Which organization has the same opinion like you?
How, how, how, please, tell me, how the hell tsaristic russian AFFECTED us and we became MORE eastern? How it shaped our mentality, our mindset, out outlook and so on?
jeez, man, tell me.
Finland also was under Russian governance once, did they became eastern...?

Norther Europe region
Baltoscandia
Nordic Council
Nordic-Baltic Eight or NB8

Frankly, Lithuania's economy is so tied to Scandinavia, that if something happens in Scandiavia/Nordics we will fell that.

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Old August 26th, 2013, 11:54 AM   #78
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No, because it includes only EE. Lithuania is considered to be Northern Europe region. I wonder why some Poles reacts so loudly
It's just your wannabe, you are an ex-soviet country and east of Poland, yes you are in Eastern Europe.

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Central Europe, east of Germany
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No, because it includes only EE. Lithuania is considered to be Northern Europe region. I wonder why some Poles reacts so loudly
Northern Europe is Scandinavia. You're not in Scandinavia. You used to be behind the Iron Curtain, way way east of western Europe. It's not a bad thing, but you're in Eastern Europe.
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Northern Europe is Scandinavia. You're not in Scandinavia. You used to be behind the Iron Curtain, way way east of western Europe. It's not a bad thing, but you're in Eastern Europe.
Do You know differences between Scandinavia/Nordics/Northern Europe? If not, please, google it.
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