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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:06 PM   #101
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Puritan, do you really know differences between Scandinavia/Nordic/Baltic and Northern Europe? If not, then we can not discuss.One troll speaks that Poland is in the west side of Lithuania, so we are in the East while all more sophisticated world considers Lithuania as a Northern Europe country not only because of strong ties with Nordics, bus also due more similar societies..
Nobody considers you as Northern Europe, check all encyclopedias on the web, sometimes they mention north-eastern but mostly it's described as Eastern Europe while Poland Central.
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l have to corect you - north neighbour.
- Lithuania.
- Northern Europe.

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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:10 PM   #103
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Nobody considers you as Northern Europe, check all encyclopedias on the web, sometimes they mention north-eastern but mostly it's described as Eastern Europe while Poland Central.
oh...how old are you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe
Nobody? Ypu have in mind Poles?DD

again, i see some kind of complex or let's say " i know betterrr than", depsite some of you are living in other country You know, looking from outside, it look kinda..stupid? Just, please, before you write smth, chech information.

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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:11 PM   #104
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Never heard about Lithuanian IT companies, and if so why do you earn less than Poles do?
Because even in small countries like Lithuania IT makes only a fraction of the job market
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:12 PM   #105
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On the other hand, Lithuania purchase power index is higher than Polish one, so ...
Average salary is higher in Poland and that's a fact, so is HDI, and purchasing power is also higher because GUS provided data for 38.6 mln citizens while actual number is around 36.5 mln, next year there will be correction and you'll see that Poland is way ahead.
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Yeah, the touche of all serious and scholarly arguments. A Wikipedia link. I bet scores of your nationals spent hours flamewaring that article to keep it as they wish.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #107
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Average salary is higher in Poland and that's a fact, so is HDI, and purchasing power is also higher because GUS provided data for 38.6 mln citizens while actual number is around 36.5 mln, next year there will be correction and you'll see that Poland is way ahead.
so next year we will see.)
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Yeah, the touche of all serious and scholarly arguments. A Wikipedia link. I bet scores of your nationals spent hours flamewaring that article to keep it as they wish.
Docs of United Nation are not serious?
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:19 PM   #109
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Turkey and Russia are only geographical Eurasian countries. Cultural, hystorical, political and economic are European countries.
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Docs of United Nation are not serious?
To a general, most common understanding of the term? As well as to that economic/social/cultural one? No, they are not.

Especially since there were probably interests as vested as they were hysterical to write in the Blatics into N.Europe. Since UN is known to produce tons of nonsense, nobody most likely cared where Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are except of those interested.
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To a general, most common understanding of the term? As well as to that economic/social/cultural one? No, they are not.

Especially since there were probably interests as vested as they were hysterical to write in the Blatics into N.Europe. Since UN is known to produce tons of nonsense, nobody cared probably except of those interested.
That is why i asked some of your countrymen - do they really understand the meaning of Northern Europe and Scandinavia/Nordic. couse it is obvious different terms.
In social level - in many cases, we are similar. But here we must a deeper analyses. In economical - not. Like Poland or almost all ex Iron Curt countries. But our geopolitical/economical links shifted towards to North. cultural matters? come to Lt and see by yourself. Even though i can help you with a trip and sight-seeing.
also, in Guardian/Economist i also read many nonsense, so what?
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But you have stronger economical links with Russia than with Scandinavia, for Lithuania Russia is as important as Germany is for Poland. Even our export in % is higher to Scandinavian countries than Lithuanians, really I don't get this Northern Europe wannabe while you have so little in common with Scandinavia.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #113
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That is why i asked some of your countrymen - do they really understand the meaning of Northern Europe and Scandinavia/Nordic. couse it is obvious different terms.
It's quite interesting that our understanding is basically the same like that of all except Lithuanians and (maybe) Latvians and Estonians. Oh yes, and those written in UN docs. You tend to get the point?

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In social level - in many cases, we are similar. But here we must a deeper analyses. In economical - not.
How we are different? Except of course that Polish economy, owing to its size, is far more diversified and hardy? And please don't bring up the Lithuanian High-Tech/R&D industry like your countrymen seem to love. There are IT companies in Poland that may hire more people than the Lithuanian IT industry combined.

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Like Poland or almost all ex Iron Curt countries. But our geopolitical/economical links shifted towards to North.
Your ties aren't even stronger than those of other countries, despite of what you want to believe. Besides, economic ties, no matter how strong, mean nothing. USA has extremely close ties with Japan and Britain. Does this mean that both Japan and Britain sailed to the American coast and are considered part of America? No, Britain is still is Western Europe, Japan is still part of Eastern Asia.

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cultural matters? come to Lt and see by yourself. Even though i can help you with a trip and sight-seeing.
I am quite familiar with Lithuania being 1/2 Dziuk myself and having lots of family left there. Actually, if I could judge by what I saw alone, I would be tempted to put you together with Russia and other post-Soviets. I havent's seen such grim and run-down commieblocks in Poland like those in Vilnius. They contrast well with the polished Old Town and new office buildings. Like in Moscow, but smaller in scale.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #114
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Ok let's back to the topic of this thread.

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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #115
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- long maritime border with Denmark and Sweden
- Swedish kings from Vasa dynasty Lithuania grand duchy with Poland kingdom was single state, so we share same kings like you do. Also withaut Lithuanian duke Jogaila Poland was able to go in to the hands of Habsburg and lost its sovereignty.
- Polish-Swedish union Already in 1665 Lithuania want to go in to union with Sweden kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_K%C4%97dainiai Now we share cooperation agreements in most areas
- Viking expansion We had it too - Kuršiai fight Vikings and engaged retaliatory raids to Sweden or island of Goteborg. Only thay can manage that, without fear.
- Harald Bluetooth
- Cnut the Great
- Olaf I of Norway and Geira
- Sygryda Storråda aka Świętosława
- Eric of Pomerania aka King Eric III of Norway, Eric VII of Denmark and King Eric of Sweden
- Samuel Linde and other polonized Swedes
- Swedish Pomerania
- "Gustav II Adolf fraternal assistance" Evangelical Church in Poland organization ( second oldest after German organization)
- hunderts of twin towns and sister cities We have too.
- many cultural events
- strong economic ties Same here
- thousands of scandinavian companies ( in various industries) Not thousands but several hundred
(for example 52 years of cooperation between Ikea and Poland - Poland is IKEA's second largest supplier after China) The largest market for our furniture manufacturers to supply
- architecture ( to some extent) http://www.bustler.net/index.php/art...ius_lithuania/ + Barclay quarters and so on.
- glacial landform
- similar climate l think Lithuania have more similar climate.
- Central European Time Zone This is a joke. LOL
etc. etc. etc.



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The aim of NordBalt project is to construct an interconnection between Lithuanian and Swedish electric power systems. The line’s approximate length - 450 km, capacity – 700 MW. The interconnection would be composed of high voltage direct-current submarine and underground cables as well as converter stations in Lithuania and Sweden. The interconnection is scheduled for launching into operation in December, 2015.

Key parameters of the interconnection:
High voltage direct-current (HVDC) submarine cable. Cable’s length: approx. 400 km
High voltage direct-current (HVDC) underground cable (on Lithuanian side). Cable’s length: 13 km
High voltage direct-current (HVDC) underground cable (on Swedish side). Cable’s length: 40 km
Capacity: 700 MW
Technology: VSC
Intended lifetime: 30 years
Preliminary project cost: LTL 1,9 billion
Connection point in Lithuania – Klaipėda 330 kV substation. Connection point in Sweden – Nybro 400 kV substation
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #116
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But you have stronger economical links with Russia than with Scandinavia, for Lithuania Russia is as important as Germany is for Poland. Even our export in % is higher to Scandinavian countries than Lithuanians, really I don't get this Northern Europe wannabe while you have so little in common with Scandinavia.
marfos, i dont want to start ad hominem discussion, but sometimes it seems that your are maybe...a bit young person? If not, sorry. But it's becoming hard to say the same things ten/twnety times.
Economical links with Russia are strong. That why probably the most famous Polish economist once state we surivived the crisis, because large companies had an alternative market. the main indusry - food, fertilizers, chemistry. By the way, many Scandi companies, which invested (or came here-> M&A) in Lt, did that because of LARGE Russia economy and operates in triangle Scandinavia-Lithuania- Russia. So you should put less attention on that. Even our FDI index shows that almost 40-50 per cent of it comes from Nordics in general.

So little in common?...Please, google it. Even in cities you can see similar trademarks like rimi, Rkiosk, hesburger, Swedbank, Seb etc.
Dont speak what you dont know. I will say for once and for all. Lithuania have more with North than Poland will ever have. Our societies are very different and Lithuanians are more closer related to Northerners rathers to slavs.
Just check that on internet and you will see. All the Puritains facts and figure are quote funny compared to lithuanians, but what a heck... It will be a good "funny topic" in lithuanian ************.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:58 PM   #117
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France is 20 miles from the UK, yet they've got nothing in common. The British and Dutch royal families are from German origin, yet they've got nothing in common. Both US and European companies have shares on both continents, yet they've got nothing in common.

Really, is this the best you can do? The open minded Swedes are a million miles apart from stocked up catholic Poles... And Lithuanians....
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- long maritime border with Denmark and Sweden
- Swedish kings from Vasa dynasty Lithuania grand duchy with Poland kingdom was single state, so we share same kings like you do. Also withaut Lithuanian duke Jogaila Poland was able to go in to the hands of Habsburg and lost its sovereignty.
- Polish-Swedish union Already in 1665 Lithuania want to go in to union with Sweden kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_K%C4%97dainiai Now we share cooperation agreements in most areas
- Viking expansion We had it too - Kuršiai fight Vikings and engaged retaliatory raids to Sweden or island of Goteborg. Only thay can manage that, without fear.
- Harald Bluetooth
- Cnut the Great
- Olaf I of Norway and Geira
- Sygryda Storråda aka Świętosława
- Eric of Pomerania aka King Eric III of Norway, Eric VII of Denmark and King Eric of Sweden
- Samuel Linde and other polonized Swedes
- Swedish Pomerania
- "Gustav II Adolf fraternal assistance" Evangelical Church in Poland organization ( second oldest after German organization)
- hunderts of twin towns and sister cities We have too.
- many cultural events
- strong economic ties Same here
- thousands of scandinavian companies ( in various industries) Not thousands but several hundred
(for example 52 years of cooperation between Ikea and Poland - Poland is IKEA's second largest supplier after China) The largest market for our furniture manufacturers to supply
- architecture ( to some extent) http://www.bustler.net/index.php/art...ius_lithuania/ + Barclay quarters and so on.
- glacial landform
- similar climate l think Lithuania have more similar climate.
- Central European Time Zone This is a joke. LOL
etc. etc. etc.
just to make it clear - many curronians, lithuanians fighted alongside (arm-in-arm) with vikings.
Vikings did not manage to fight against Lithuanians (see Chronicles).
Lithuanian raided and plundered Danish, Swedish land even there are prays like "god, save from curronians" as well as Russia, Poland (Masovia), Karelia Only we were considered to be "land vikings" rather then "sea-vikings". Have not heard about that from Polish side....;/
Even though curronian (center - present day samogitia) had taken women from Gotland as wifes ;D that why we are blue eyed, tall/heigh, blonde, white-face...?


Compare jewelry, armoury, weapon manufacture traditions, compare mythology, life-style (Dlugoszh wrote about that )etc.

take in account that danish, swedish language are top listed languages that many young lithuanians are learning atm..
cultural events - check out Loftas performance list Probably everyday in Vilnius you can go and listen to nordic music
Compare feasts, like Midsummer and their cultural importance in Baltics and in Norther Europe...;D
Coffee break? Fika
i love that list

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Sorry, but Lithuania and Poland are as bad as each other, and I cannot see any links worth discussing between both countries and Scandinavia..
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@Prosp, Poland has more in common with Scandinavian countries than Lithuania does, export, import ,FDI, IKEA-s, companies, stores, air connections, tourists from Scandinavia etc. etc. Actually you have more in common with Russia since you shared the same country, Russian culture influenced you a lot and so did Poland in the past. Just look at Gdańsk airport, even Lithuanian capital has not not so many connections with Scandinavian cities.

http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/passenger/link

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