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Old December 13th, 2002, 12:40 AM   #1
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#Approved | CBD NORTH | 33 Bligh Street | 30st / 165m / office & substation

These were the two winners of the office towers planned for the Kindersley House site in Oconnell St, Sydney earlier this year. apparently next year the ew proposala will be coming in again! these two werent good enough! both 180m tall.

rice/daubney tower had a north slab rising to 202m +40m spire=242m.



i liked this one the best with the fishnet look! the spire went to 230m also.
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Old December 13th, 2002, 12:52 AM   #2
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I liked the fishnet one. I would of liked to see more renderings of that design. That should of been the winner as it was much better than the rice/daubney tower which looked a bit like Norwich House up the road.

I hope the new design competition contains even better designs than the ones we have here.

Anyway Culwulla, how is progress with the new schemes for the site?
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Old December 13th, 2002, 02:02 AM   #3
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the competition is hapeneing early next year so , ill let you know progress as it happens!
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Should be agreat design once complete, hoever I would like it to be up to tha roof at 235m like that previous proposal which was excellent.
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Old December 13th, 2002, 09:09 PM   #5
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Culwulla posted about a month or two ago that there is one 235 metre proposal for the site but did not give further details. There are 150 metre tall proposals for the site too.
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Old December 14th, 2002, 04:28 AM   #6
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fishnet one looks nice and unique!

is there anything like it in the country?
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Old January 12th, 2003, 03:43 AM   #7
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I don't think so Rondeez. I'd be a pretty unique building if built here.
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Old January 12th, 2003, 05:36 AM   #8
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who here reckons foster copied that design for swiss re? haha oh well at least the same design got built
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He wouldn't of stolen it Noonos. This proposal for Kindersley came up after the designs for Swiss RE had been finalised.
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Old January 13th, 2003, 01:11 AM   #10
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ah, I see, maybe it was vice versa...Oh well i like the design and im going to britain in october so i will definately take some pics
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Old February 11th, 2003, 11:40 PM   #11
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big news from todays Fin review!

Principal Office Fund who are bldg 126 phillip street want to develope the Kindersley House site!!
POF are engaging Bovis lend lease to build the 50 storey office tower!!
il let you guys know when models/heights are known!
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50 stories = 180m+ ........ Sounds good to me ......
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Yeah, I read the blurb on AFR this morning, and thought it must be Kindersley!

When is the new design competition for this proposal supposed to come through?

I am really hoping that 50 storeys is all above ground - although I am doubtful - most likely 10 underground and 40 above ground or something. If it was 50 storeys above ground, then a height >180m would be a given.

Oh well, they might do something on the roof (i.e. structural crown, big spire) that could bring it up, and balance the tower with the other big boys up that end of town.
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Principal Office Fund who are bldg 126 phillip street want to develope the Kindersley House site!!
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il let you guys know when models/heights are known!
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There was a drawing of the tower with the article and it looked only 30-40 levels at the most, but it was a really crap drawing :-)

If they proposed a 30 level tower on this site they should reject it as not high enough! Sydney really needs to max out all of these available sites to meet demand or rents in the long term will be pushed up way too high.
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I have the article in front of me. It looks significantly taller than Mulpha House (right next to it ) and it also has a spire.
My guess is 170m to roof.
The most positive thing about the article was that the developers are keen to go ahead in the next development cycle given "strong tenant interest" in it !!
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Old February 12th, 2003, 02:23 AM   #16
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The height we have as a stage 1 DA model is 178m high. It is allowed an architectural feature and spire which will certainly take the height to over 200m!
should be interesting over next few months with the design comp happening again!
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Good news!

I wish the tower was a bit taller itself. The site has alot of potential seeing it is in the financial district, where the big boys want to be.
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Old February 12th, 2003, 06:27 AM   #18
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Here is the AFR pic- with some associated Spaz scribble !
You can see it sitting hard against Mulpha House,which is 35 stories and 127m.
When you compare Kindersley vs Mulpha it looks to be about 45-50 stories and around 160-170m to roof.
However, as Cul said its 178m to roof so I'll take it !

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Spaz,
thats 178m from OConnell street which is 6metres lower from Bligh st which is the pic view! thus 172m from Bligh st!
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Good rendering. It looks like it has a sloping roof.
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