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Old March 23rd, 2013, 09:28 AM   #21
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Looks more like an airport terminal, but I like it! In what way will the new station have impact on Hualamphong Station in Bangkok and will there be a connection between both stations?
This station will serve as a main grand station of Bangkok when finished and Hua Lanphong station will turn into a museum instead. Connection between these 2 station will be served by the red line commuter in the future.

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Hopefully that this project will become real!
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Old March 26th, 2013, 09:28 AM   #24
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Old March 26th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #25
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Ayutthaya City High Speed Train Station



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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:05 PM   #26
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Hopefully that this project will become real!
Yes. I remember discussing last year with a Thai colleague during a business trip to Thailand. She was cursing the endless rush-hour transport time between BKK and the Eastern Seaboard. I tried to console her that "soon there's going to be a high-speed train". To my surprise she sneered outright: "yeah, yeah, yeah... come back when they have done it!"

Apparently the Thai people have heard this song many times before.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #27
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Actually, I believe these projects will finally be realistic.

The question is just 'When?', just like other government projects that always facing delay problems from numbers of causes.

Anyway, I have pretty high hope for this government. They seem to work hard and fast and really want to start all good projects after a long break during political turmoil.

Last 15 years, I told my German friends during their visit to Thailand that we would soon have metro and sky train and we did have it.
Last 10 years, I told them again that we would have new airport and we did that again.

Just told them again last year that we would have all new train system soon, ...hope we'll fulfill that wish too.

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Old March 28th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #28
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Conceptual design of Nakhon Sawan Station.

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Old March 30th, 2013, 09:39 AM   #29
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Infrastructure bill sails through
Govt plans special May session to fast-track law

Published: 30 Mar 2013 at 00.00

After two full days of heated debate, the House of Representatives last night voted to approve the first reading of the government's 2-trillion-baht infrastructure loan bill.



The 36-member committee now gets just 30 days to scrutinise the bill before it proceeds to its next reading.

The bill sailed through with 284 votes in favour with 152 against and 21 abstentions. After winning approval, the government proposed that the bill be scrutinised within 15 days but later agreed to the opposition leader's proposal to lengthen the period to 30 days to give more time for the committee to go through it.

The first meeting of the scrutiny committee is scheduled for Tuesday.

The 30-day scrutiny period means the process will not be completed before the end of the current parliamentary session on April 20.

However, the government intends to fast-track enactment of the bill by submitting it for its second and third readings when parliament opens for a special session in late May to consider the 2014 Budget Bill, chief government whip Amnuay Khlangpha said.

Before the vote yesterday, Deputy Prime Minister Kittiratt Na-Ranong said the government would not use the fiscal budget to finance infrastructure overhaul projects as requested by the opposition parties, led by the Democrats, because, if it did, it would not have sufficient funds left over for other areas of development.

Mr Kittiratt also said the calculation of the interest payments for the 2 trillion baht in borrowing, estimated at 3 trillion baht over the next 50 years, was based on a conservative approach with a rate of about 5%, higher than the rate now.

Transport Minister Chadchat Sittipunt said high-speed railways need government investment because they face many risks initially. When the railways are running well, the private sector can take part in building extensions.

He also said that the extension phase of the high-speed railway route from Nakhon Ratchasima to Nong Khai will definitely be constructed if the government wins a second term in office and it will be completed simultaneously with the Bangkok-Chiang Mai route. He assured that the high-speed train plan of the government is feasible.

Regarding the high fares of high-speed trains, the transport minister explained that they target a different group of passengers to conventional trains. He said the government would lay double-track railway lines to improve conventional train services.

During the debate, Democrat MP for Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thepthai Senapong, complained that the high-speed train project would terminate at Hua Hin district in Prachuap Khiri Khan.

He accused the government of discriminating against people in the South, a Democrat stronghold.

He said discrimination against southern residents has continued since the administration of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Democrat MP for Phuket Anchalee Vanich blasted the government for prioritising political gains ahead of national interests.

She said the previous Democrat government planned to develop a high-speed rail line from Nong Khai to Padang Besar in Malaysia via Bangkok.

This would make more sense than the government's planned routes to Rayong and Chiang Mai because more than 2 million tourists visit Thailand each from China and Malaysia, Ms Anchalee said.

She accused the government of kowtowing to its northern political support base by planning a Bangkok-Chiang Mai high-speed link.

Ms Anchalee said she did not oppose the rail link to Chiang Mai, but the government should first consider other routes. She noted that the number of visitors to Chiang Mai was smaller than to Chon Buri, and the value of tourism to Chiang Mai was far less than to the southern provinces of Krabi and Phuket.

Democrat MP for Phitsanulok, Juti Krairiksh, also questioned why the government had increased the cost estimates for high-speed railways from about 300 million baht per kilometre to 600 million baht.

He said high-speed railways in Spain cost only about 300 million baht per kilometre to build, even though daily wages in Europe were more than 10 times those of Thailand.

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As much as I love to fly, I think High Speed Rail is the way of the future.
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Old April 1st, 2013, 02:01 PM   #31
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As much as I love to fly, I think High Speed Rail is the way of the future.
Well thanks for that very informative and revealing post.
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PM hopes for Thai-Lao-China high-speed train link

BANGKOK, April 4 – Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra gave reassurances that Thailand’s high-speed train will reach the northeastern province of Nong Khai to connect Thailand with the Lao PDR and China.

Meeting Lao Deputy Prime Minister/Foreign Minister Thongloun Sisoulith on Wednesday, the Thai premier said she looks forward to a tripartite cooperation to develop infrastructure for communication and transport among Thailand, the Lao PDR and China.

She said Thai investors from the public and private sectors will visit Laos to enhance business and trade cooperation between the two countries.

Mr Thongloun called on Thai investors to strictly adhere to Lao investment laws and avoid any activity that will negatively impact the landlocked country’s environment.

Thailand is hosting the 2nd Thai-Lao Joint Commission in Chiang Mai on May 19 to discuss social, economic and security cooperation. Other issues to be raised are upgrading checkpoints along the Thai-Lao border, suppression of border drug trafficking, and boundary demarcation. (MCOT online news)

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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #33
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High-speed train bids set for 2014
Published: 11 Apr 2013

The government aims to call for bidding early next year for the civil work on the four planned high-speed trains so the first route can be operational by early 2019, says the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning.


‘‘The government wants to see metropolitan areas established in each region with highspeed trains attracting people to move outside the capital,’’ says Mr Chula. THANARAK KHOONTON

Director-general Chula Sukmanop said a study is under way for potential routes. The study on the northern route, which will run from Bangkok to Phitsanulok for the first phase, should be completed in the next two months, followed by the northeastern route to Nakhon Ratchasima and the southern one to Hua Hin.

The eastern route is slated to run to Pattaya and extend to Rayong in later phases.

Planned construction will be discussed during a public hearing, and an Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) will need to be attained, he added.

By September or November, interested international train suppliers will be invited to present their technology. The government is likely to pick only one system for all four routes, said Mr Chula.

Companies from Japan, Korea, China, France and Spain are keen to supply trains for this project, he said.

"We target open bidding for civil works early next year. The first high-speed train line will be operational in late 2018 or early 2019," he said.

The government will be responsible for the cost of civil works, he added. For instance, the planned northern route to Chiang Mai in the extension phase is projected to cost 397 billion baht for a distance of 730 kilometres, but it could be shortened to less than 700 km depending on the route. Five routes are being studied.

About 40% of the government's 2-trillion-baht infrastructure programme planned for the next seven years is allocated for high-speed trains, which will run at a speed of 250 km per hour.

"If the civil work is not taken into account, the high-speed trains will be able to break even by offering competitive fares with low-cost carriers," said Mr Chula.

Under current estimates, the high-speed trains will cost 2.50 baht per km to operate. Low-cost carriers cost 2.40 baht per km now, and the price will certainly rise in five years, he said.

"In addition to moving people, the real economic benefits of high-speed trains are decentralisation and developing new large cities. The government wants to see metropolitan areas established in each region with high-speed trains attracting people to move outside the capital," said Mr Chula.

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Transport schedules Sept-Oct for foreign offers
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THE NATION April 11, 2013 1:00 am


The Transport Ministry will allow foreign investors to submit their proposals for developing high-speed-rail projects in September and October with an eye to kicking off the projects next year.

The ministry will also start conducting environmental-impact assessments for the four high-|speed-rail routes in June with the target to commence construction by 2017-18, Chula Sukmanop, director-general of the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning, said yesterday.

The northern, southern, northeastern and western routes will not only link Bangkok to the provinces but also link Thailand with other countries in the region after the Asean Economic Community (AEC) goes into effect in 2015, he told a seminar on the transport network as the way to develop the city organised by Thansettakij newspaper.

The ministry also is studying business models to develop the high-speed railway system, including a joint venture with the private sector.

"Although the high-speed-rail projects will not generate profits by themselves, they will promote growth in |the country's economy in the long haul," he said.

Waradej Harnprasert, director-general of the Civil Aviation Depart-ment, said the high-speed-rail lines would take more than 10 years to complete, so the use of airlines, especially low-cost carriers, for transport would continue to grow.

This is the way to support transport links between Thailand and AEC countries.

The department now manages six airports - Narathiwat, Betong in Yala province, Ubon Ratchathani, Udon Thani, Krabi, and Mae Sot in Tak province. They are potential aviation hubs to link with AEC members. The department plans to develop and renovate its airports to serve the rising demand for transport.

Chaiwat Utaiwan, president of Bangkok Metro, said the mass-transit links among rail, road, river and air would support public transport and the economy because they will save time in doing business.

Bangkok has only the Skytrain and the MRT subway but the city is expanding with new central business districts popping up around the mass-transit system.

This shows that investing in mass transit will support growth in the provinces and the country as a whole, he said.

Kittipol Pramote Na Ayudhya, president of the Thai Real Estate Association, said mass-transit expansion would spur demand for residential and commercial buildings. For example, when the government announced the Bt2-trillion plan to develop the country's logistics system, residential demand spurted in major provinces in all regions.

"We believe that when the government's transport system is completed according to plan, that will drive expansion of the property market from Greater Bangkok to the provinces," he said.

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If those are the final designs, they'll put even the Chinese stations to shame
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Which model of Thai High Speed Train you would like to see?
1. Modern Style taking state of the arts incorporated with local Thai culture aspects into the design - Here is the choices


1.1 Water flowing such as Nakhon Sawan - made from stainless steel which can be shaped as flowing water of Chao Phraya river as well as all other that that shapes


1.2 Moving forward design while keeping the old roots such as the Silver Barb weaving - just the case of Ayutthaya station


2. Neoclassicism or Jugendstill design including


2.1 : Neoclassic design of the Royal pavilion at Bang Pa In station which has been opened along the first railway line on 26 March 1897 as well as Chidladda Royal Station (Opened on 29 December 1919)



2.2 Neoclassic design in the way of Phichit station (opened 24 Jan 1908) well as Ban Pin station (opened in 1914), and Nakhon Lampang (Opened on 1 April 1916

3. Modernized Thai architecture to fit the national ideology as well as the local identity with the following choices.


3.1 Contemporary Thai architecture - modern building with the soft Thai decoration to keep Thai identity according to the eyes of the modernists


3.2 Using modern and applied Thai architecture from the gate designs to welcome the passengers

You can just answer the poll here
http://thaihispeedtrain.com/chiangmai/poll.php

Here the map of Thai high speed train networks with the case of bypass route to serve Nakhon Nayok [AKA Ban Na] as Thai version of Putrajaya with the extension of red line commuter eastward to Kaeng Khoi via Hua Mark, Chachoengsao and Klong 19 Bypass
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1.2, and otherwise 1.1.
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3.1 and 1.1

"Although the high-speed-rail projects will not generate profits by themselves, they will promote growth in |the country's economy in the long haul," he said.

Sigh, wish the politicians in my country would understand this. Thailand's rail system looks very promising, assuming they can get it all built.
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