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Old May 9th, 2015, 12:58 PM   #381
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Video for the joint Thai-Chinese HSR is now out



And the website for the project is also up today: http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/index.php

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All lines will be built to handle a speed up to 350 km/h
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Joint Thai-Chinese HSR - 873 km (2015-2018)
  1. Bangkok - Kaeng Khoi (133 km) : Construction in September 2015 (180km/h at first)
    Kaeng Khoi - Map Ta Phut (246.5 km)
  2. Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima (138.5 km) : Construction in December 2015 (180km/h at first)
    Nakhon Ratchasima - Nong Khai (355 km)
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Joint Thai-Japanese HSR - 672 km (2016-2019)
  1. Bangkok - Chiang Mai (672 km) : Construction in January 2016 (250km/h)
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Private Sector HSR - 1.375 km
  1. Bangkok - Rayong (194 km) : Charoen Pokphand Group (CP) (200-300km/h)
  2. Bangkok - Hua Hin (211 km) : Thai Beverage Plc (200-300km/h)
  3. Bangkok - Padang Besar (970 km) : Design Study (180km/h at first)
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From above presentation, details are confirmed

* Track geometry will be designed to support full HSR speed upgrade in the future.
* Initial operation will be run by 180km/h electrified train.
* There is the possibility to share the track with HSR eastern line (BKK-Rayong) on the same section. It is yet to be determined.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 09:39 PM   #383
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Video for the joint Thai-Chinese HSR is now out



And the website for the project is also up today: http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/index.php
However infomation has not been added yet.
really interested in the pedang besar line that would link up with another line coming north.
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really interested in the pedang besar line that would link up with another line coming north.
Better wait for a while as the line from Bangsue Central to Padang besar is about 982 km long - Here is the latest news about - Thai - China railway






Thai China railway from Nong Khai to Maptaphut via Nakhon Ratchasima and Klong 19 Bypass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=80nN1iIE2Js
http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/index.php
http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/menu5.php
http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/menu6.php
http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/menu4.php
http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/menu10.php
http://www.korat-maptaphutstandardgauge.com/menu7.php


Big Jin told the press after the discussion with Chinese government in Kunming on 6-8 May 2015 that CRC has reported on the feasibility on design and survey along with speed, station place and depot - not fully done yet while Thai government reporting about the facilitation on Visa clearance and importation of special instruments and tools - Now, Chinese sending 80 men for route survey - and 82 more men will follow

Design on the first section from Bangsue central to Kaeng Khoi (133 km) will be done in September 2015 and construction started in October 2016
the second section (Kaeng Khoi - Maptaphut - 246.5 km) need a clearance on EIA due to A1 level at Phra Phutthachai tunnel
the third section (Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima - 138.5 km) is to be done in October 2015 - faster than expected so the construction started in late October - Novemeber 2015
the forth section (Nakhon Ratchasima - Nong Khai - 355 km) not done yet - to be done in Jan - Feb 2016

For the financial plan - EXIM Bank of China to get a clearance in August 2015 with the need to stain 800 Thai railway men with Chinese railway instruments to run traffic control, the rolling stocks that suit the track, the way to handle both rolling stock maintenance and track maintenance along with signal, the carriages and electric traction power which are totally new for Thai railway men along with the way to install the new Fiber optic systems along the networks

For the issue of 540 km railway line from Kunming to Mohan checkpoint, it is about 50% done - and it will takes another 5 years (2019-2020) to get it done.
For the issue of 420 km railway line from Mohan to Viengchan, it will take time to make a final settlement and it will take 4 years to construct from 2016 to 2020
For the issue of Thai networks, the construction of the first phase will be started in October and done in 3 year (December 2018) -

After the line has reached Nong Khai, there will be a discussion with Laos about the 30 km route from Nong Khai to Viengchan including the new Friendship bridge for railways in parallel with the existing 1st Friendship Bridge.

There will be a discussion for the establishment of 2 subsidiary companies to handle traffic and track & rolling stock maintenance under Thai - China JV company from 30 June to 1 July 2015
http://www.manager.co.th/iBizChannel...=9580000053732
http://www.ryt9.com/s/iq03/2156226
http://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/320449
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Japan set to begin rail-line construction next year - Prajin
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WRITER: AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK

Transport Minister Prajin Juntong expects Japan to start construction of new Bangkok-Chiang Mai and Kanchanaburi-Aranyaprathet rail lines next year.

He said on Monday that work could begin soon because both routes have been designed. He would seek cabinet approval on May 19 to sign a memorandum of cooperation with Japan later this month to proceed with construction.

The minister did not say when the rail lines would be completed.

The 670-kilometre Bangkok-Chiang Mai project route will be a high-speed railway.

The east-west route will be a double-track line stretching 574 kilometres from Kanchanaburi through Bangkok and Chachoengsao to the Laem Chabang port in Chon Buri province, and to Aranyaprathet district of Sa Kaeo province next to Cambodia.

Deputy Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith discussed the projects with Hiroto Izumi, special adviser to the Japanese prime minister, at his ministry on Monday.

Mr Arkhom said the memorandum of cooperation would be signed in Tokyo on May 26 or 27. He added that Japanese officials would arrive in mid-June to survey route specifics. Investment plans would be finalised by year-end.

Japan would include its experience planning a Singapore-Malaysia railway project in its study on the Bangkok-Chiang Mai route, Mr Arkhom said. The Singapore-Malaysia project last week was postponed indefinitely beyond its 2020 completion date.

Japan promised to help Thailand develop relevant personnel and technologies, he said.

Also on Monday, ACM Prajin said China also wanted to start construction of its standard-gauge line from Bangkok via Kaeng Khoi district of Saraburi to Nakhon Ratchasima province in October or November.

That line is part of planned rail route linking China's Kunming province to Bangkok via Vientiane, Laos, slated for completion in 2019, ACM Prajin said.

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Signing the contract with Japanese government for the High Speed train development from Bangsue Central to Chiang Mai (672 - 715 km at 250 kph Max speed to be constructed in early 2016 after 6 month route survey) and the 574 km meter gauge line for cargo train from Phu Namron checkpoint to Laem Chabang Deep Sea port with extensions from Chachoengsao to Aranyaprathet and Phan Thong to Chachoengsao

Sadly, 718 km Maesod - Tak - Phitsanuloke - Phetchabun - Khon Kaen - Roy Ed - Mukdahan will just for studying, not the real construction at the time being.
http://news.voicetv.co.th/business/203772.html
http://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/320449
https://www.facebook.com/NOW26TV/pho...185769/?type=1
http://www.now26.tv/view/43867/%E0%B...%E0%B9%89.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=HK6DI-ADMm0
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Japan agrees to press ahead with rail links
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NEWSPAPER SECTION: NEWS | WRITER: AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK & PATSARA JIKKHAM

Thailand and Japan will sign an agreement to press ahead with the Bangkok-Chiang Mai high-speed train and Kanchanburi-Sa Kaeo double-track railway later this month.

The signing ceremony of the memorandum of cooperation (MoC) for the projects will be held in Tokyo on May 26-27, said Deputy Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith after a meeting with Hiroto Izumi, the Japanese prime minister's special adviser on economic affairs, in Bangkok Monday.

The new railway development, which is part of Tokyo's move to form an economic partnership with the Thai government, covers the construction of a new 670-km rail route for high-speed trains from Bangkok to Chiang Mai and 574km of double-track rail routes covering the western province of Kanchanburi-Bangkok-Chachoengsao-Sa Kaeo's Aranyaprathet district, which borders Cambodia in the East.

The latter project also links the capital with Chachoengsao and Laem Chabang, the country's key industrial zone, in the eastern province of Chon Buri.

After the signing ceremony, Japanese experts will visit Thailand next month and work with Thai authorities to carry out surveys of the routes and designs, which will take about six months.

Other issues such as financing are expected to be finalised by the end of this year, Mr Arkhom said.

Financing the project will not be a problem because Tokyo can rely on the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) and Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC), he said.

Transport Minister Prajin Juntong said the construction of the two projects should start next year because the project's feasibility study was finished in 2012.

"We use the term MoC because we've already gone beyond the MoU (memorandum of understanding) stage," ACM Prajin said. "Now it's time to put the projects into practice," he said.

Mr Izumi also met Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to discuss the progress of the two railway projects and to confirm Japan's cooperation with Thailand will continue.

Tokyo views the Bangkok-Chiang Mai rail route as the most important one out of both projects, government spokesman Yongyuth Mayalarp quoted Mr Izumi as saying.

Mr Izumi said Japan is ready to bring its technology and decades of experience in handling long rail routes, according to Mr Yongyuth.

The Japanese government's goodwill pleased Gen Prayut and he promised to step up measures to boost links between the nations over the two projects. The premier is scheduled to meet Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe during a summit of country leaders from the Mekong river region and Japan in July, Mr Yongyuth added.

In another development, the ongoing work to survey and design another double-track rail route, which will connect Thailand with Laos and Kunming in southern China, is expected to be finished this August with construction to begin later this year, ACM Prajin said.

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The ongoing HSR developments in Thailand are second only to the PRC in terms of scale.
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Joint Thai-Chinese HSR - 873 km (2015-2018)
1. Bangkok - Kaeng Khoi (133 km) : Survey and design will be done in September, construction begins October 2015
2. Kaeng Khoi - Map Ta Phut (246.5 km) : Construction begins October 2015
3. Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima (138.5 km) : Survey and design will be done Sept-Oct, construction begins in Oct-Nov 2015, faster than the plan by 2-3 months
4. Nakhon Ratchasima - Nong Khai (355 km) : Survey and design begins in Jan-Feb 2016

Joint Thai-Japanese HSR - 672 km (2016-2019)
1. Bangkok - Chiang Mai (672 km) : Survey and design in June, construction in January 2016

Private Sector HSR - 1.375 km
1. Bangkok - Rayong (194 km) : The plan will be given to the cabinet for consideration this month, Charoen Pokphand Group (CP) is interested in this line
2. Bangkok - Hua Hin (211 km) : The plan will be given to the cabinet for consideration this month, Thai Beverage Plc is interested in this line
3. Bangkok - Padang Besar (970 km) : Will get a push start as soon as the Chinese joint venture projects is finalized

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Good enought for third or fourth place on current figures.
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I can now feel a small competition between the Chinese and Japanese. Both projects get pushed a lot more faster and it was planned.

The original plan with the Japanese is to sign MOU this month and take 1 year for study. It's now becoming MOC and reduce study phase to 6 months (which will start construction as soon as the study finish!). That is 6 months earlier.

The Chinese one already had the head start and take a very short time to do the study, now they are going to push ahead the construction on some line couple of months earlier.

Within 4 years Thailand will have at least 1,800 KM HSR rail line. That exclude the southern one which is not yet confirmed.
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Shared benefit guarantee needed for China-Laos-Thailand rail link, ex-minister says
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THE NATION May 16, 2015 1:00 am

THE joint development by China, Thailand and Laos of a standard-gauge railway connecting Kunming, Vientiane and Bangkok is in need of an agreement that would guarantee equal benefit for all three nations, according to former finance minister Chalongphob Sussangkarn.

Deputy Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said yesterday that the feasibility study for all legs of the rail project linking Nong Khai and Bangkok, Kaeng Khoi (Saraburi) and Map Ta Phut (Chon Buri) was expected to be complete by August.

Arkhom was delivering a keynote speech at a seminar arranged to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Neighbouring Countries Economic Development Cooperation Agency (NEDA). He said construction of two sections, Bangkok-Kaeng Khoi and Kaeng Khoi-Map Ta Phut, was expected to begin in October. The third section of the project, linking Kaeng Khoi and Nong Khai via Nakhon Ratchasima, is expected to begin construction at the beginning of next year.

Chalongphob, who served as finance minister under the Surayud Chulanont regime, said: "The benefit-sharing system is not complete. Laos is a transit country in this deal with an economy that is less than 5 per cent of Thailand's gross domestic product, and it stands to gain the least from the construction of the Kunming-Vientiane-Bangkok railway.

"There must be a system that would guarantee a discussion among Thailand, Laos and China on the overall plan, who will invest how much, where and what kind of benefits can be shared from the construction of the railway."

For example, Thailand could strike a deal that would guarantee a transfer of technology and know-how from China and Japan. It could make an agreement with those two countries to ensure that equipment and other material for the construction of the railway is produced here in the Kingdom.

Chalongphob said China had made a similar deal with Airbus when it agreed to purchase aircraft from the French company. Included in the transaction agreement was the provision that Airbus must assemble aircraft parts in China and the Chinese must be able to make the part themselves within 10 years.

China has long wanted to build a 3,000-kilometre high-speed rail line from Kunming all the way down to Singapore, passing through Laos, Thailand and Malaysia. According to China Railway Corp, the Kunming-Singapore line will be constructed in four stages, from Kunming to Vientiane, Vientiane to Bangkok, Bangkok to Kuala Lumpur, and Kuala Lumpur to Singapore.

"Thailand's increasing dependence on the import of capital goods will shake the country's macroeconomic structure in the next 10-20 years," Chalongphob said. "We are already spending around Bt50 on imported capital goods for every Bt100 of investment."

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Lets hope the Malaysia/Singapore link gets started soon.
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Thailand will build a train maintenance facility in cooperation with China and Japan and aims to be a train maintenance hub in South East Asia.

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Even more detail on Bangsue Central - Chiang Mai HST station designs - scanned by Khun Marut:

Even though the High Speed train to Chiang Mai has not been started yet, it is likely that it has station symbols as shown here


Ayutthaya station at the existing Ayutthaya station yard between Han Tra canal and Phai Ling canal - Common Silver Barb
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Lopburi station at Pa Wai (Military down on the Southern suburb of Lopburi city) with station design of Prasart Sam Yod near the existing Lopburi station
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Nakhon Sawan station at Nong Pling - Dragon
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Phichit station north of existing Phichit station a crocodile of Phraya Chalawan
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Phitsanuloke station in Phitsanuloke city - fighting rooster of King Naresuan
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Phitsanuloke complex for both High Speed train and regular trains
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Design of Phichit station for High speed train near Highway 111 and all intercity trains must stop to this new phitchit station
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9462359&type=1
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0782892&type=1
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...5222253&type=1
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9422108&type=1


station building of Ayutthaya High Speed train station on the existing Ayutthaya station yard - can be accessed by boat along Pasak river - sadly no space for the red line commuter extension
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For the section beyond Phitsanuloke city, take a look here
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Thai-Japanese rail link to Chiang Mai follows China model
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THE NATION May 18, 2015 1:00 am



CABINET TO CONSIDER AGREEMENT FOR HIGH-SPEED NETWORK BEFORE SIGNING MOC

THE CABINET is expected to consider the draft of an agreement on the Thai-Japanese high-speed railway tomorrow ahead of the signing of a memorandum of cooperation on the Bangkok-Chiang Mai route in Tokyo next week.

The 715-kilometre Bangkok-Chiang Mai line is scheduled to open in 2019, Transport Minister Prajin Juntong told Nation Multimedia Group last week.

The railroad is part of Thailand's strategic transport connectivity plan, linking the mass transit systems of big cities to small towns and neighbouring countries.

The Thai government is also cooperating with China on the development of the Bt400-billion Bangkok-Nong Khai route with medium-speed trains running at 160-180 kilometres per hour. The focus of this project is on the linkage of trade and services, and goods transportation in Asean.

The Thai-Japanese railway project, which would run trains at an average speed of 250kmh, would likely adopt the same model as the Thai-Chinese medium-speed railway project.

The project's value is estimated at Bt400 billion, as it can be traded with a low loan rate.

"Japan said it welcomed the use of the same (cooperation) model as China," Prajin said.

The government-to-government model employed the engineering, procurement and construction system and set up a joint steering committee.

Cooperation is also divided into three parts - civil works, system, and route and maintenance.

The Japanese government led by Shinzo Abe expressed its interest in a few routes during the official visit of Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to Japan in February. Recently, Japan decided on the Bangkok-Chiang Mai route.

Japan also offered a soft loan. The government hopes that the interest rate will not exceed 1.5 per cent.

As for the Kanchanaburi-Bangkok-Sa Kaeo railway, including a spur from Bangkok to Laem Chabang, which Japan is also interested in, Prajin said no new line would be constructed. Japan would just fill in missing links or make parts of the mostly single existing track into a double track - with a track width of one metre.

This line is under the government's plan to develop double-track railways.

For the Bangkok-Nong Khai route, there was progress after both countries signed a memo of cooperation early this month.

Details on construction costs and a credit line with the loan rate would be known.

"If things are on track, we believe the construction of phases one (Bangkok - Kaeng Khoi) and three (Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima) will start in October and phases two (Kaeng Khoi - Map Ta Phut port) and four (Nakhon Ratchasima - Nong Khai) will start in December.

"Then, the services should be gradually available from December 2017 to March 2018," he said.

The government was negotiating with China to cut the loan rate to 2.25 per cent from 2.5 per cent. This loan would be financed in connection with system work such as rolling stock and the signalling system, which would be based on Chinese technology.

For civil works, 70 per cent would be reserved for Thai construction companies, and a part of the funds would be raised via the public-private partnership scheme and infrastructure fund.

"I'm very okay with China's reaction to what we move up in railway expansion. I feel China would like to carry out its commitment to the project," he said.

Japan and China's long "diplomatic relations" with Thailand and their strong commitment to the railway projects had convinced the government to go with G2G deals instead of open bidding, he said.

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Thairath TV reporting on the progress of Thai - China Railway - started with Bangsue Central to Nakhon Ratchasima station on the Southern section of the existing Nakhon Ratchasima station yard near Wat Pa Sarawan, a forest temple on the hill within Khorat city area. Section from Kaeng Khoi to Maptaphut will have to be waited until Lao - China railway have been concluded and constructed. After all, Bangsue Central to Nakhon Ratchasima station will make money out of Local Thai passengers as well as those foreigners who want to travel to Isan area as Nakhon Ratchasima is the main gate for Isan region.

Once the line has been extended to Nong Khai, those Farang including those Farang who are sons in law after getting Thai Wives will use this line to make an annual visa renewal at Royal Thai Embassy in Viengchan.


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Thairath TV reporting on the progress of Thai - China Railway - started with Bangsue Central to Nakhon Ratchasima station on the Southern section of the existing Nakhon Ratchasima station yard near Wat Pa Sarawan, a forest temple on the hill within Khorat city area. Section from Kaeng Khoi to Maptaphut will have to be waited until Lao - China railway have been concluded and constructed. After all, Bangsue Central to Nakhon Ratchasima station will make money out of Local Thai passengers as well as those foreigners who want to travel to Isan area as Nakhon Ratchasima is the main gate for Isan region.

Once the line has been extended to Nong Khai, those Farang including those Farang who are sons in law after getting Thai Wives will use this line to make an annual visa renewal at Royal Thai Embassy in Viengchan.


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Why would a foreigner need to leave the country to renew their visa if he were married to a Thai national?
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Khun Wisarut. Could you please not include your own opinion into the news. It's totally out of context and cause confusion (including the visa renewal things).
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