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Old June 19th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #421
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More details about Bangsue Central - Hua Hi High speed train - turning Hua HIn station for High Speed train as the new landmark of Hia Hin city

During the inspection tour of SRT governor with Mayor of Hua Hin city to prepare for both massive double tracking from Nakhon Pathom to Hua Hin and from Prachuab Khirikhan to Chumporn and High Speed train from Bangsue to Hua Hin
1. Hua Hin new station building after double tracking will be just the western edge of existing Hua hin station
2. Hua Hin station for High Speed train will be opposite to Hua Hin Airport at Bo Fai
3. Need 6,352 sq. m. for Hua Hin station of high speed train with the station length of 1 km - 450 meter for station building -
4. both Hua Hin station for High Speed train Hua Hin new station building will be elevated station - using both existing 80 meter wide strip + 40 meter wide strip outside railway area
5. Bangsue Central to Hua Hin with the distance of 221 km and 98.399 billion Baht investment consisted of 83 billion Baht for construction + 9.324 billion Baht for electrification + 1.905 billion Baht consultant + 4.1 billion Baht land exapropriation
6. EIRR from Bangsue Central to Hua Hin is 8.11% even though the extension to Padang Besar will boost the benefit to 12.76%
7. ticket rate at 2.5-3.0 Baht per km - at 522 - 627 Baht with travel time of 1 hour
8. there will be 4 stations
8.1 Nakhon Pathom at existing Nakhon Pathom station
8.2 Ratburi at Koo Bua commune - 3 km South of existing station
8.3 Phetburi at Khao Luang, Thongchai commune on Phewtkasem highway - 1.5 km from existing station
8.4 Hua Hin in front of Bo Fai AIrporrt [AKA Hua Hin airport] - around Hua Hin Soi 2 - 7 km North of existing Hua Hin station and 300 meter from Phetkasem

Mayor of Hua Hin going to prepare the mass transportation to connect High Speed train station at Bo fai with downtown Hua Hin - using private run minibus - but need much better decoration to fit with the grace of new Hua hin station at Bo Fai

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Southern and Eastern High Speed Rail lines construction to commence in 2016
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BANGKOK, 17 June 2015 (NNT) – The construction of the Bangkok - Hua Hin and Bangkok - Pattaya High Speed Rail lines are expected to commence mid 2016, according to the Minister of Transport.

The Minister of Transport ACM Prajin Juntong has revealed the progress of the High Speed Rail construction for the southern line Bangkok - Hua Hin and the eastern line Bangkok - Pattaya, saying that the projects have passed the survey and design phase and are now being considered by the Environmental Impact Assessment Committee (EIA).

He added that the projects will then proceed to the Term of Reference (TOR) drafting phase and will be presented for the Cabinet's consideration in August this year, and the TOR will be disclosed to the public during October - November. The construction operator of these projects will be selected early 2016 and the actual construction is set to commence mid 2016.

For the SRT Red Line project, the Governor of the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) Wuthichart Kalyanamitra has revealed that the SRT stil does not have an agreement on the median price bargain with MHSC Consortium and the details of the work. He added that new negotiations are set to take place 18 June 2015 to make a conclusive decision within this month.

The SRT has proposed a budget of 30.5 billion baht, while the proposed budget by the private company is at 32.8 billion baht. The targeted median price is approximately 31 billion baht.

The SRT Governor has said the negotiation details will be presented for the consideration of the SRT board, while he remains positive that the bargain will be concluded.

MHSC Consortium is the auction winner in the third contract bidding of the SRT Red Line project, which involves construction for the electrical and mechanical systems for the SRT Red Line Bang Sue - Rangsit, and train procurement for the SRT Red Line Bang Sue - Rangsit and Bang Sue - Taling Chan services.

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Old July 1st, 2015, 06:24 PM   #425
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Route survey for Thai - China railway along with the visiting of of Kaeng khoi loco depot -
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Khun Mone son of Singh Sanam Luang reporting that Chinese engineers and workers coming to make a survey around Muean Ek for Thai - China railway from Bangsue central to Nong Khai
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New JV company to run and install signal - need to adjust the route which they have found the 36 km of gas and fuel pipelines of PTT from Klong 1 to Klong Phutsa - Initially Chinese want the pipeline to move out but this requires extra EIA so the route has to be readjusted - For the signal, Chinese want signal center at Bangsue but SRT offer Chiang Rak Noy as Bangsue has got so many development - may not have enough space to do so - Route design must be done by 21 August 2015 with 3-4 more stations - definitely at Ban Phachi and Kaeng Khoi but the rest is up to Chinese and Thai designers - the route changing should not more than 20% to prevent further delays - more stations at Pang Asok and Khok Sa-ad

Japan going to focus on laying the signal system from Bangsue central to Ban Phachi at the distance of 81.8 km
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the Thai - China railway started to lay the foundation stone at Kaeng Khoi Junction (km 125 from BKK) on 23 october 2015 there will be 4 contracts to be handled by Thai contractors 70% and 30% Chinese contractors on difficult sections (Contract 3) and bridges. Survey can be cut ot 18 months since it follows much of the existing route and more info form double tracking

4 contractors will be including

1. Contract 1: Bangsue central - Kaeng Khoi -
2. Contract 2: Kaeng Khoi - klong 19 - Chachoengsao - Pataya Maptaphut
3. Contract 3: Kaeng Khoi - Khorat - digging up the tunnels
4. Contract 4: Khorat - Nong Khai

One team handle Contract 1 and contract 3 and the other handle Contract 2 and Contract 4

BKK - Nong Khai section to use the old EIA and extra info with the maintenance center at Khaeng Khoi and traffic control at Chiang Rai noy

need more stations and some deviated from the old route due to the pipeline at Klong 1

Furthermore, this Thai - China railway must be integrated with Thai - Japan high speed line to Chiang Mai - even though Chinese signal system is considered - must be opened system for nationwide signal integration

Need conclusion on how to finance section 1 and section 3 on 28-30 August 2015 -
Frame Work Agreement sign on 10 September 2015
Draft the contract from 11 September to 19 october 2015 to be signed on 20 October 2015
Lay the foundation stone at Kaeng Khoi Junction (km 125 from BKK) on 23 october 2015

Budget for this project is 420 billion Baht and Chinese promising low interest rates
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Old July 29th, 2015, 10:37 AM   #427
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Transport Minister Prajin Juntong expects the double-track railway linking southern China, Laos and central Thailand will be completed within five years.

The minister discussed the transnational railway project with Lao authorities in Bangkok on Monday. After the meeting, he said that Thailand and Laos would push for completion by 2020.

"Tracks in Thailand and Laos will take about four years to connect. The section that will link with Kunming will be done within five years. So by 2020, the link from Kunming to Bangkok and Map Ta Phut surely will be completed," ACM Prajin said.

He also said that construction for all sections of the railway in the three countries would start this year. He referred to the 520-kilometre-long line from Kunming to China's border with Laos, the 417km section from the border to Vientiane, and the 867km section from Nong Khai province adjacent to Vientiane to Bangkok and the Map Ta Phut area in the eastern province of Rayong.

Thai and Lao authorities also plan to build a dedicated railway bridge across the Mekong River to serve the transnational railway instead of using existing track on the first Thai-Lao friendship bridge linking Nong Khai and Vientiane, ACM Prajin said.

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Thai Transport Min: High-speed train project made significant progress
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High-speed train project made significant progress

BANGKOK, 29 July 2015 (NNT) – The Ministry of Transport has revealed that the construction project for a high-speed train between Bangkok and Chiang Mai province has made significant progress.

Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said the 672-km high-speed railway is a collaborative effort between Thailand and Japan.

The island country has hired a construction company to provide additional design advice to the existing blueprint made by the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning.

Mr. Arkhom said Japan is placing great emphasis on safety, as it will be the first time a railway system outside of the country is being modeled after the Shinkansen.

Japan is suggesting that it be built as an extension to the regular railway. The Transport Minister admitted that it would change plans for land expropriation.

Another meeting over the speed railway development will be held in Japan late next month. The complete construction plan is expected to be completed and ready for Cabinet approval in June next year. Construction will begin approximately in two years.



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CP, ThaiBev line up for train deals
3 Aug 2015 at 03:28 | WRITER: AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK

Charoen Pokphand Group (CP), the country's largest agro-industrial and food conglomorate, will propose a 150-billion-baht investment plan for a high-speed train linking Bangkok, Pattaya and Rayong this month, Transport Minister Prajin Juntong says.

CP met him late last month and reaffirmed the company's interest in developing the 194km Bangkok-Pattaya-Rayong project, ACM Prajin said. The group plans to submit its investment plan for the 150-billion-baht project to the Transport Ministry this month, he said.

Bangkok-Pattaya-Rayong is one of two high-speed train routes planned. The other is the 211km Bangkok-Hua Hin route, worth 98 billion baht. Thai Beverage Plc (ThaiBev) has shown interest in investing in that route, the minister said.

ACM Prajin said the ministry is asking the Secretariat of the Cabinet whether it can submit the Bangkok-Pattaya-Rayong rail project to cabinet for approval ahead of its environment impact assessment (EIA) report.

The State Railway of Thailand (SRT) has yet to get the EIA report and the minister has instructed transport permanent secretary Soithip Traisuth to work with the Natural Resources and Environment Ministry to speed it up.

The EIA report for the Bangkok-Hua Hin route, prepared by the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning, is finished and now being reviewed by the National Environment Board.

"The cabinet will be asked to set conditions that bids can be called only when the EIA report is endorsed," he said. Bidding is expected to take place in June next year while construction will take netween 30-36 months, he said.

SRT governor Wuthichart Kalyanamitra said the EIA report should be ready this month and later will be sent to the Natural Resources and Environment Ministry for review. He said slow design work has delayed the report. The track passes mountains and river basins and parts of the route also overlap with the Thai-Chinese rail road project linking Map Ta Phut in Rayong and Saraburi's Kaeng Khoi district.

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What about Taiwan's HSR line?
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The Japanese used 'unconventional' means to win the Taiwanese market, and had to pay US$ 65M as a compensation. As a result of this, the line is using European tech for the signalling, larger tunnel dimensions like in Europe, and the initial driver training was done by French and German drivers.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 08:22 PM   #434
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Design of Bangsue Central - Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima will be done on 18 August 2015 - However, Kaeng Khoi - Maptaphut and Khorat - Nong Khai section will have to speed up even though it will pass the deadline of 31 August 2015 but it does not matter as these later 2 section will start the construction in early 2016

After all section design is done, both Thailand and China must set up adviser board to make a price assessment on this project - to hire the consultant in mid August 2015 - with a hope to get a clear price on 30 September 2015 - Thailand is going to find the financial resource to support the construction on steel rail, concrete sleepers and ballast - the signal, electro mechanic, the locomotive and carriages is JV - Chinese side will form a single organization by Public and private participation while SRT and private section will have to form Thai organization ... but still not quite settle that it will be Thai 51 Chinese 49 or Thai 60 Chinese 40

For the financial resource - 1. regular budget, 2. state enterprise funds 3. domestic and foreign loan 4. Infrastructure funds - For the issue of system, it is up to the interest rate of Chinese loan with amount of loan - to be announced on 10-12 September 2015 - the project started on either 23 October 2015 for the memorial of King Chulalongkorn or 1-10 December 2015 during His Majesty's natal day at Kaeng Khoi Junction

Now, there is short term training of 30 railway men of SRT in 40 days from 11 August to 9 October 2015 to learn all about the terminology

http://www.matichon.co.th/news_detai...sid=1439350275


Now, Big Jin is so bullish that he expects to lay the corner stone on 23 October 2015 at Kaeng Khoi Junction - the bidding started in either October 2015 or December 2015

For the case of infrastructure, SRT is going to handle using domestic loan of 200 billion Baht - but let's see the result by the end of August 2015

For the traffic and maintenance of 100 billion Baht, this section is what Chinese want to focus with 40% Chinese investment or 40 billion via EXIM Bank of China with 60% investment by Thai section through the new companies.

Signal, electric power, rolling stocks,, traffic and maintainance will be done at Chiang Rak noy which function as OCC - Chinese sector asking Thailand to exempt VAT or import duty to cut the burden during the first 10 years of operation

Let's see th result from the meeting in Pataya on 3-5 September 2015 even though the interest rates have not been concluded yet due to the loan act of both Thailand and China cannot be easily reconciled even though Thailand insisting 2% interest rate per annum at 25-30 year paying period with 6-7 year grace period - need to modify the 40 km section from Rangsit to Ban Phachi to avoid PTT pipelines

In addition to 5 stations of High speed train [Bangsue Central, Ayutthaya, Saraburi station at Klong Priaw, Pak Chong at Nong Sarai and Khorat], the following 4 station will be added so the cargo train can make a stop to give a way for passenger trains - Ban Phachi Junction, Kaeng Khoi Junction, Pang Asoke and Khok Sa-ad

ONLY need land exappropriation for 10% since it built on the railway right of the way - removing those slum dwellers done by SRT

the real bone of contention is the signal system since Thai - China railway and Thai - Japan must share the track from Bangsue Central to Ban Phachi Junction - still inconclusive whether to use either Chinese signal system or Japanese signal system even though OTP want to use European system to allow both Chinese and Japanese to share the same tracks. Still need to make a settlement with Japan by the end of August 2015.

If Japanese still disagree, MoT has no choice but to start the Thai- China project at Chiang Rak while Thai - Japan railway starting at Bangsue Central along Northern railway all the way to Chiang Mai at 672 km

For Bangsue Central - Nong Khai line will invest 330,000 million Baht - 220,000 Million Baht for construction - 110,000 million Baht for rolling stock and maintenance - the bidding will be started after the cabinet resolution on 10 September 2015


For the special bidding section - 70% will be handled by registered Thai contractors while 30% which involved with tunnel and bridges will be handled by Chinese contractors
the first 2 contractors will be handled from Bangsue central to Kaeng Khoi (133 km) and Khaeng Khoi to Khorat (138.5 km) - with sign the contract on 20 october 2015 before laying the corner stone on 23 October at Kaeng Khoi Junction - if it failed to meet this target, December 2015 is the alternative to be done within 2 year and 6 month and opened in mid 2018

For the first contract, CRC + CRCC which are contractors from China will make a consortium with Thai contractors to handle from Bangsue central to Kaeng Khoi (133 km)
On the other hand, CRC + CREC which are contractors from China will make a consortium with Thai contractors to handle Khaeng Khoi to Khorat (138.5 km)
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B3.4 trillion (USD95.4 billion) for projects over 8 years
18 Aug 2015 at 07:31 WRITER: WICHIT CHANTANUSORNSIRI

The government has earmarked 3.38 trillion baht for eight years' worth of infrastructure projects, says Deputy Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith.

Railways have captured the largest portion of the budget through 2022, with standard gauge high-speed trains claiming 36%, double-track rail 17% and electric trains 18%.

Other projects involve road construction, waterways and air transport.

Half the investment budget will be funded by borrowing, and the government is likely to let the private sector take part in a public-private partnership (PPP) scheme to lower public debt, Mr Arkhom said.

The Public Debt Management Office (PDMO) last week said Thailand's ratio of public debt to GDP would peak at an estimated 53% in 2019 -- assuming the government's infrastructure investment and borrowings amount to 300-400 billion baht a year -- before edging down to 52% in 2020.

Under the eight-year infrastructure plan, the PDMO will borrow 638 billion baht in the next fiscal year starting Oct 1 to fund projects.

Mr Arkhom said the government would expedite auctions for the Yellow and Pink electric train lines this year.

The Purple Line from Bangkok to Nonthaburi is scheduled to start test runs in December and enter service early next year, while an extension of the current Blue Line -- now under construction -- is set to begin operating in 2019.

An auction for a motorway linking Pattaya and Map Ta Phut will take place this year, while two other motorways -- Ayutthaya-Nakhon Ratchasima and Nonthaburi-Kanchanaburi -- will go to auction this year at the earliest.

The 96-kilometre Bang Yai-Kanchanaburi road will cost 55.6 billion baht, with 50.2 billion earmarked for construction and 5.42 billion for land expropriation; the 196-km Bang Pa-in-Nakhon Ratchasima route will cost 84.6 billion, with 78 billion for construction and 6.6 billion for expropriation; and the 32-km Pattaya-Map Ta Phut road will cost 20.2 billion, with 14.2 billion for construction and 6 billion for expropriation.

Separately, the Comptroller General's Department estimates the investment budget for government and state enterprises at 800 billion baht for fiscal 2016, about 100 billion more than in fiscal 2015. The Highways Department alone will be assigned a budget of 73 billion baht for next fiscal year, up 40%.

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From the latest news. The project face a big obstacle when the Chinese train might not be able to share track with Japanese Shinkansen (which is the original intention by Thai gov, as there is bottleneck between Chiangrak Noi and Bangsue). This might give them no choice but to push away the terminal station for Chinese one to start at Chiangrak Noi instead of Bangsue. There is a huge debate in thai forum as it might not be feasible, since forcing the people to travel that far just to get on Chinese train (eastern line) could potentially kill the ridership.

* NOTE : Chiangrak Noi station is located in Ayudthaya province which is outside of bangkok. Even further than Don mueang (secondary airport)
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From the latest news. The project face a big obstacle when the Chinese train might not be able to share track with Japanese Shinkansen (which is the original intention by Thai gov, as there is bottleneck between Chiangrak Noi and Bangsue). This might give them no choice but to push away the terminal station for Chinese one to start at Chiangrak Noi instead of Bangsue. There is a huge debate in thai forum as it might not be feasible, since forcing the people to travel that far just to get on Chinese train (eastern line) could potentially kill the ridership.

* NOTE : Chiangrak Noi station is located in Ayudthaya province which is outside of bangkok. Even further than Don mueang (secondary airport)
Need political adroit and shrew to deal with the belligerent 2 powers (Chinese vs Japanese) as the way to allow the track sharing rather than setting up the new center at Chiang Rak Noy (Southern limit of Ayutthaya or the Northern limit of Pathum Thani - north of Chiang Rak)
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From the latest news. The project face a big obstacle when the Chinese train might not be able to share track with Japanese Shinkansen (which is the original intention by Thai gov, as there is bottleneck between Chiangrak Noi and Bangsue).
What is the problem, do you know? As far as I'm aware the Japanese Shinkansen trains use the standard track gauge of 1435mm - same as China. Will the Japanese railway construction in Thailand be of the old Japanese narrow 1067mm gauge design? That sounds highly inoptimal to me. Or is the problem related to electricity, signalling or something else?
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What is the problem, do you know? As far as I'm aware the Japanese Shinkansen trains use the standard track gauge of 1435mm - same as China. Will the Japanese railway construction in Thailand be of the old Japanese narrow 1067mm gauge design? That sounds highly inoptimal to me. Or is the problem related to electricity, signalling or something else?
It's not the problem with the track (as both are using the same standard gauge 1.435 meters). But the Japanese mention that sharing another system with Shinkansen would impact the safety. Yet, there is still no information why it's such the case. Some people start the be concerned that China/Japan relationship might play the part in this.

Currently there is only enough space for 2 pairs of standard gauge between Chiang Rak Noy and Bangsue grand station. One is already occupied by Airport Rail Link system which will link between Bangsue grand station and Don Mueang airport. And another one that is yet to be decided. The government original plan was to share these 2 pairs with all HSR that bound from Bangsue grand station. As they didn't expect this problem to happen.

And we don't even think about HSR Southern line which have to share the same track as well (and potentially it might use different system from Chinese and Japanese one)...
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