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Old February 13th, 2016, 09:06 PM   #521
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Yah, as Thai people pressing the demands for that high speed at the affordable prices - demands which should never be disputed
Hum...? That looks onerous. The European countries that have been the most ambitious in their HSR strategies are those that have portrayed their projects as replacements for air travel - and by extension with tickets priced like air fares. (Spain is the prime example.) Conversely, "high speed at affordable prices" looks to me like something that could become UNaffordable to the public purse?
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Thai-Chinese HSR speed will now be 250 km/h and focus only on passenger, while cargo will instead be handled by the meter gauge double track line that is currently u/c.
Where shall freight be reloaded from wide gauge to narrow gauge trains?
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Old February 13th, 2016, 10:47 PM   #523
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Hum...? That looks onerous. The European countries that have been the most ambitious in their HSR strategies are those that have portrayed their projects as replacements for air travel - and by extension with tickets priced like air fares. (Spain is the prime example.) Conversely, "high speed at affordable prices" looks to me like something that could become UNaffordable to the public purse?
Well, they will rely on those Chinese business men who are starting to settle around Khorat city (airport exists but 40 km East of Khorat city as the airport at Khorat AFB is closed for civilian planes), Khon Kaen city (Airport exists but at least 10-12 km West of Khon Kaen city), udonthani city (5 km Southwest of Udonthani city - Udonthani AFB) and Nong Khai city (No airport at all - need to rely on either buses or taxi to Udonthani airport and those who want some alternative to Low cost airline as the ticket prices for High Speed train have been in line with low cost airline ...

BTW, those taxi around those cities in question are sucking both Thailanders outside those cities and foreigners so hard - no meter turned on - need to negotiate with the cabs - case to point Khon Kaen airport to Khon Kaen university cost about 100 Baht despite of the distance.

the rest which have not been mentioned (Bangsue central Khorat) are considered as within the range of commuter - esp the section from Bangsue central to Kaeng Khoi while Bangsue central to Khorat has been considered as short intercity with high frequency as there are already 24 hour buses and van services - but not quite comfortable for intercity vans with a risk for accident due to the speed demon nature of drivers ... even intercity buses are more comfortable but many of them are accident prone since they have 2 levels - esp the section with sharp curve from Kaeng Khoi to Pak Chong (Dong Phraya Yen section) --- the section from Bangsue central to Khorat is too short for low cost airline though
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Where shall freight be reloaded from wide gauge to narrow gauge trains?
More likely Nong Khai as there are some space left after gauge breaking - ONLY after the cargo traffic have grown to the point that cargo operation have to be moved to Natha station (3 km South of Nong Khai station) as there are a lot more space to do so.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 09:43 PM   #525
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SRT proposes seven rail projects
18 Mar 2016 at 08:10 WRITER: AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK

The State Railway of Thailand (SRT) will propose seven dual-track railway routes to the cabinet for its approval this month.

SRT Governor Wutthichart Kalayanamitr yesterday said the seven double-track rail lines will be submitted to the Transport Ministry before being forwarded to the cabinet.

If the submissions are approved, bidding for the seven rail routes will be held.

The SRT planned to propose the seven railway projects after Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha exercised Section 44 of the interim charter to fast-track them.

Under the order, the bidding and the environmental impact assessment (EIA) are able to be carried out simultaneously.

Of the seven proposed railways, three routes which passed EIAs were
  1. Map Kabao-Thanon Chira Junction (132km) worth 29.8 billion baht;
  2. Nakhon Pathom-Hua Hin (165km) valued at 20 billion baht; and
  3. Prachuap Khiri Khan to Chumphon (167km) at a cost of 17.2 billion baht.

The four other routes which remained under the EIA process were
  1. Lop Buri-Pak Nam Pho (148km) worth 24.8 billion baht;
  2. Hua Hin-Prachuap Khiri Khan (90km) costing 9.43 billion baht;
  3. Ban Phai-Nakhon Phanom (347km) worth 60 billion baht; and
  4. Den Chai-Chiang Rai-Chiang Khong (326km) valued at 77 billion baht.

"The bidding will be held for all seven projects after being approved by the cabinet," Mr Wutthichart said.

"However, only three routes will be constructed as they already underwent EIAs."

As for the other four lines, the bidding and the EIAs will be carried out at the same time in a bid to shorten the duration. Contractors will be finalised before the EIA results come out.

Mr Wutthichart, however, insisted that every project must undergo an EIA before it is signed off.

Commenting on the progress of the Red Line railway linking Bangkok to Pathum Thani, the SRT governor said the agency will also sign a contract with the MHSC Consortium, which is contracted to supply the electrical and mechanical system and train carriages for the route, this month.

The rail projects are divided into two sections: Bang Sue-Rangsit and Bang Sue-Taling Chan.

He said the SRT is in the process of setting the date for a contract signing ceremony.

For two high-speed trains from Bangkok-Hua Hin (211km) worth 94.6 billion baht and Bangkok-Pattaya-Rayong (193.5km), Mr Wutthichart said the projects will be constructed under Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs).

The agency is working on the projects' details which were expected to be completed next month.

The issue will be then forwarded to the State Enterprise Policy Office to set up a PPP committee to oversee the projects.


Meanwhile, Pakpoom Srichamni, president of Sino-Thai Engineering and Construction PCL, said bidding for the seven dual-track railway routes was regarded as a good opportunity for the construction investment sector.

"If the state is able to launch those projects in accordance with their frameworks, it will give the government more credibility. More private firms will invest in the state's projects," Mr Pakpoom said.

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What is the route of the HSR?
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What is the route of the HSR?
1) Bangsue central - Hua Hin
2) Lad Krabang- Rayong
3) Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke - Chiang Mai
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Mr. Arkom Termpittayapaisith Minister of Transport delivered a speech on the topic of investment in the infrastructure of the country.

The high-speed train route Bangkok - Chiang Mai which is a cooperation with Japan is expected to be presented to the Cabinet for approval in June. The Thai - Chinese high-speed train Bangkok - Nongkhai route is still under discussion, Thailand wants China to increase its stake on the line and will discuss the establishment of a joint venture in the next meeting in Beijing on March 22-23. Construction is still set to begin in May.

The high-speed train routes Bangkok - Rayong and Bangkok - Hua Hin will be proposed to the Board of Directors' policy on private participation in state affairs (PPP) in April-May. Afterwards a Terms of Reference (ToR) will be issued and bidding for these lines will then begin.

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Thailand to go it alone on Thai-Sino high-speed rail
Sole investor status 'will end delays'
24 Mar 2016 at 04:00 | WRITER: POST REPORTERS


The high-speed rail project has been touted as a joint Thai-Chinese operation since the junta first promoted it, but now will be all-Thai because of unsuccessful haggling over cost sharing.

Thailand has decided to wholly invest in the Thai-Sino railway project after it failed to agree in talks with China on the terms of the arrangement which has set back progress for months.

The decision was announced Wednesday by Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha as he was attending the first Mekong-Lancang Cooperation (MLC) summit in Sanya, Hainan province. "Lancang" is Chinese for Mekong

The summit, which brings together leaders from Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand and China, ends Thursday.

Gen Prayut said after a meeting with his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang that, as well as cooperation on sharing resources from the Mekong River, Thailand and China also discussed the development of the Thai-Sino railway project in Thailand.

It was decided Thailand will wholly invest in the project and hire China to develop the project, instead of a joint investment venture planned earlier, Gen Prayut said.

This is because Thailand wants the country's first high-speed train project to "get off the ground", Gen Prayut said.

The first section to be developed will be the 250km Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima section, the prime minister said.

The Thai-Sino dual-track rail route, which can handle medium- to high-speed train services, will involve two phases of construction. The first phase will involve the Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima section and the Nakhon Ratchasima-Nong Khai section. The second phase will be the Kaeng Khoi-Map Ta Phut (in Rayong) section.

Previously, Thailand made a proposal to the Chinese authorities that China should hold a 60% stake in a special purpose vehicle, or SPV, for the project but China disagreed.

The loan issue has played a part in delays in the Thai-Chinese train scheme as the government repeatedly urged China to cap the interest rate at 2%. The government argued China was pushing for too high a rate, and the negotiations failed to make progress.

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PM reveals high speed rail link to be funded by Thai government alone

BANGKOK, 24 March 2016 (NNT) – The Prime Minister has explained that the Thai government will be completing the Bangkok-Nakhonratchasima historic high-speed train route on its own with China only contributing to its construction and setting up the route’s technology.

Speaking to the press while inspecting the project, Prime Minister Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha revealed that he recently spoke to Chinese Premier Li Keqiang on the high-speed rail link between Bangkok and Nakhonratchasima.

He reportedly told the Chinese premier that Thailand would continue constructing the rail line, which can handle trains traveling up to 250 kilometers per hour, with discussions on investment and funds to commence in July and the project expected to be completed this year.

The prime minister assured that the Ministry of Finance has confirmed the nation has the funds to complete the project, which is considered a historic connection between the central and northeastern regions.

Gen Prayuth affirmed that China would not be investing in the railway and would only be contributing to its construction and technological installations.

He said the line would be the first of numerous future railways connecting the regions of the country and allowing existing train routes to be devoted fully to the transport of goods.

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Oops. Why is the Thai government rushing it? Or did the Chinese pull out?
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Oops. Why is the Thai government rushing it? Or did the Chinese pull out?
Not sure what you mean by rushing it. It obvious that the Chinese doesn't want to invest or increase their investment in this line anymore, while the Thai also doesn't want to do the majority of investment if it has to co-developement with China. And the thing is they drag this plan for almost 2 years already, if they still have to wait for anything from China , this project might not even see the light anytime soon.

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Not sure what you mean by rushing it. It obvious that the Chinese doesn't want to invest or increase their investment in this line anymore, while the Thai also doesn't want to do the majority of investment if it has to co-developement with China. And the thing is they drag this plan for almost 2 years already, if they still have to wait for anything from China , this project might not even see the light anytime soon.
Two years of negotiations is nothing considering the magnitude of the costs and the slow ROI to be expected. And truth be told, a high speed rail isn't exactly a project with high urgency - there are many other more pressing infrastructure needs.
I think the government is prioritizing it because they want to inject as many "megaproject" baht as possible into the sluggish economy, a bit out of desperation.
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‘Sweeter’ terms sought for Sino-Thai rail deal
PICHAYA CHANGSORN THE NATION
SEOUL March 25, 2016 1:00 am

Thailand to hire China to build first 250km of northeast line starting later this year.

THAILAND aims to seek "friendly" terms with China when it comes to the interest rate and price for the multi-billion-baht high-speed railway project, which will now fully paid for by the Thai side, Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said yesterday.

"Since it is a government-to-government project, China should offer 'friendship' terms on interest rates and project costs," he said.

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said yesterday Thailand was capable and financially prepared to carry out the project alone. He said the government had planned to spend over a trillion baht for infrastructure projects but rules on environmental impact assessments had delayed use of the money.

"We will no longer do the project with China. It's better to do it alone," he told reporters in Bangkok after his return from China.

General Prayut said China would be hired to build the project under a government-to-government deal, adding that he expected construction to start as soon as possible.

He said China had no problem with the Thai side's decision.


"They are OK. They said that they just want to help and don't really want anything in return. The Chinese said they felt like Thai people do not trust them. I told them that's not true," Prayut said.

The PM said the project would start with the section from Bangkok to Nakhon Ratchasima - the first 250km of the total planned length of over 800km. He said funding would come from loans.

The PM announced his government's decision to go ahead on Wednesday with the scheme after meeting his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang at the Mekong-Lancang Cooperation Summit in China.

Prayut said Thailand would be the sole investor and would hire China to develop the first-phase to Nakhon Ratchasima, after the two sides were unable to agree on a joint-venture investment model.

He said this would at least help get the project off the ground after months of delay. The premier also said it was better for Thailand to be the sole investor and the Chinese side had agreed to this. He did not elaborate.

Arkhom, meanwhile, said the other routes, from Kaeng Khoi to Map Ta Phut and Nakhon Ratchasima to Nong Khai, would be suspended for the time being.

The first phase will cost Bt170 billion, based on local estimates compared to Bt190 billion estimated by China. The entire 800km-plus project would cost Bt530 billion, which was far too much of an investment burden for Thailand at this stage, Arkhom said.

'He went on to say that the investment cost for the first phase - Bangkok to Kaeng Khoi in the Central region and to Nakhon Ratchasima in the Northeast - would not be a burden because the fees earned from allowing the private sector to develop areas around train stations would pay for the construction.

'We'll still use Chinese trains'

But, he said, the project would be delayed for another four or five months in order to allow time for negotiation on the interest rate and project cost. "We will still use Chinese trains as it is a government-to-government project and we have agreed to bring the Chinese 1.435-metre standard gauge high-speed railway to Thailand for the first time."

As for passenger traffic, he pointed out that there was a high demand in the Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima route and that the government would extend the track to Nong Khai when it was ready. However, the Kaeng Khoi-Map Ta Phut section would be postponed indefinitely.

Arkhom said Thailand opted to be the sole investor because it was not able to offer other benefits to Beijing, including the right to develop the right of way and areas around the railway stations. Also it could not offer benefits such as mining rights like in the case of the Chinese-Lao rail project, which is a 70:30 joint venture scheme.

And because Thailand will provide the investment, it can decide on its financing sources, which can include China, though the interest rates would have to be competitive, he added.

China would be in charge of engineering, procurement and construction management, supplying trains, signalling systems and tracks, though Thai contractors would be allowed to take part in the construction. China could also have a hand in operating the service via a joint venture with the Finance Ministry, State Railway of Thailand and private sector, though it was too soon to talk that, he said.

Dr Aksornsri Phanishsarn, head of the Thai-Chinese Research Centre, said Thailand decided to go solo in terms of investment as it found China's conditions unacceptable.

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If Thailand is funding this project independently then why not also push for maximum involvement of local contractors? Foreign expertise is certainly needed in a project like this, but I bet up to 70% of work could be done locally.
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Thai contractors will definitely be hired and local materials will be used to reduce cost, though Chinese expertise will be required to be in charge of engineering, procurement and construction management, supplying trains, signalling systems and track for this line.
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Oops. Why is the Thai government rushing it? Or did the Chinese pull out?
Two years of negotiations is nothing considering the magnitude of the costs and the slow ROI to be expected. And truth be told, a high speed rail isn't exactly a project with high urgency - there are many other more pressing infrastructure needs.
I think the government is prioritizing it because they want to inject as many "megaproject" baht as possible into the sluggish economy, a bit out of desperation.
No, it is the way to tell Chinese government that they have added too many strings which turn into the nooses - If they want to continue the investment on the second phase to connect with Lao - China Railway, they should come up with much sweeter deals with Thai government.
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If Thailand is funding this project independently then why not also push for maximum involvement of local contractors? Foreign expertise is certainly needed in a project like this, but I bet up to 70% of work could be done locally.
There is political animosity between Chinese government and Japanese government so Thailand has to avoid the spill from political animosity to hit into the project - as they have learnt the hard lesson when they have built Nakhon Ratchasima railway using British contractor while Department of Railways during the day of King Chulalongkorn was under control of German railway builders.



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Thai contractors will definitely be hired and local materials will be used to reduce cost, though Chinese expertise will be required to be in charge of engineering, procurement and construction management, supplying trains, signalling systems and track for this line.
He is referring to the way to form a consortium - the familiar way to allow foreign contractors to handle the jobs which Thai contractors have no expertise to handle
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No reversal of high-speed train plan, says Prayut
25 Mar 2016 at 20:49 WRITER: ONLINE REPORTERS



Thailand will no longer delay new rail projects after a planned joint venture with China got bogged down, according to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha.

Gen Prayut said the construction of the line between Bangkok and Nakhon Ratchasima would be only the first step in a series of lines to come in the future.

"If we are still dragging our feet on this project, we will not catch up with other countries," he said in his Returning Happiness to All Thais weekly programme on Friday.

The prime minister told Chinese Premier Li Keqiang during their Mekong summit in Sanya in Hainan province on Wednesday that Thailand would go ahead with the train project without forming a joint venture with China.

The much-publicised project calls for a new line for medium-speed trains from Nong Khai to Map Ta Phut in Rayong and Bangkok. Thai and Chinese officials held a splashy ceremony in December to kick off the project, even though they were still at odds over the financial arrangements and the form of partnership the joint venture would take.

While Thailand will now fund the entire cost of the line, Gen Prayut said in China that China would construct the line to underline the still strong relations between the two countries.

The prime minister also made clear on Friday in his speech that the government had decided to scrap the original plan for a medium-speed track and would build a high-speed train line.

"The government places importance on having high-speed trains. We originally planned to lay tracks for a medium-speed train. But we have reached a conclusion that it is not suitable under present circumstances," he said.


But the launch date for construction of the first high-speed line linking Bangkok and Nakhon Ratchasima remains unclear. The prime minister expects work to start in July but Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith told reporters earlier on Friday that construction would be possible in August or later.

The first train line will be the start of a programme to spur infrastructure investment and create more convenient options for public transport, he said. Trade, tourism and industries would also benefit from the line, he added.

The government plans to build other lines including one from Bangkok to Rayong and Chiang Mai to create a new, modern transport network in the country.

But Gen Prayut said that the focus now was on one line. "The network is a subject for discussion in later stages," he said.

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"No reversal of high-speed train plan" meaning a Bangkok to Korat HSR connection only. The link to Laos has been postponed indefinitely (which should have a heavy impact on Laotian HSR plans).
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"No reversal" meaning a Bangkok to Korat HSR connection only. The link to Laos has been postponed indefinitely (which should have a heavy impact on Laotian HSR plans).
This is the way Junta telling Red Dragon that if they want to make a connection, they better give the term of investment that is not hurting the sensibility of Thai people - the issue of land strips along the railway lines - even in concession form is totally unacceptable as it means to grab the existing railway land plots ...
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"No reversal of high-speed train plan" meaning a Bangkok to Korat HSR connection only. The link to Laos has been postponed indefinitely (which should have a heavy impact on Laotian HSR plans).
Isn't that the understatement of the year? As I understand it without Thai connection Laotian HSR is near useless from Chinese point of view...
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