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Old October 20th, 2017, 10:16 PM   #741
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Here is video presentation of Seamless connections of all 3 airports with 260 km High Speed train
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Bangkok - Rayong High Speed Train Project - The highlights are as follows:

- The total length is 260 km, with a design to be more connected to Suvarnabhumi Airport (arrivals) and Utapao Airport (incoming - outgoing).

- Bidding will begin in 2018.

- There are 10 stations running through 5 provinces, including 8 elevated stations, namely Don Mueang, Bang Sue Grand Station, Makkasan Station, Chachoengsao Station, Chonburi Station, Sriracha Station, Pattaya Station and Rayong Station. The underground station is Suvarnabhumi and U Tapao Station.

- Taking a trip from Don Muang to Rayong (Stop at all stations) is about 2 hours and from Don Muang to Rayong (no-stop) is about 1 hour.

- Trains with a top speed of 250 km/hour outside the city and 160 km/hour when running through the inner Bangkok.

- The fare is 500 baht per trip for the express route Don Mueang - Utapao and 300 baht per trip for the express route Suvarnabhumi - Utapao.

- The construction budget is about 200,000 million baht and will be completed in 2023.

- Expected Passengers for conventional trains (City Line) Don Mueang Airport - Suvarnabhumi Airport is 103,920 person/times/day, and for the High-Speed ​​Rail (HSR) Suvarnabhumi - Rayong 65,630 person/times/day.

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http://www.springnews.co.th/th/2017/10/122142/?sp
http://www.tnews.co.th/contents/368742
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gen...three-airports
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Why is the U-Tapao station underground? I would have thought it would be above ground given the space around the airport.
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Why is the U-Tapao station underground? I would have thought it would be above ground given the space around the airport.
I think it's for seamless connection, so passenger would not have to step out of the airport to use the train.

In this illustration here of U-tapao aeropolis plan, the HSR station was located outside the airport to the right, so it was not very convenient.



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Old November 1st, 2017, 03:05 PM   #744
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High Speed train connecting 3 airports with a price tag of 215000 million Baht will be submitted to EEC board in december 2017 before setting upo the committee to handle the PPP investment before bidding and siging the contract
next year

Japanese consultant just finishin studyin on the way to construct High Speed train along with the investment on the land strip from Bangsue central to Chiang Mai with the distance of 672 km and price tag of 400000 million Baht which is to be submitted to MoT on 16 Nov 2017 before calling Seminar on this project on 17 Nov 2017
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Mitsui and Company (Thailand) [Japanese trading firm] is showing strong interest to invest on High Speed train connecting 3 airports with the distance of 260 km and a price tag of 215000 million Baht - with condition for the TOR to be PPP Gross cost rather than PPP-Net Cost since private sector would be reluctant to bear the cost from PPP net cost - and the TOR should have provision on the real estate development around the station and along the route even though it runs almost in parallel with existing SRT railway networks -

So, the government has to set up SRT Asset Management with 200 million Baht capitalization to handle the land along SRT routes and SRT stations - and allow private sector to make a contact on real estate development via SRT asset management along with the 2400 million Baht contract on land leasing with SRT - no more political meddling on SRT asset management
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This station is a joint station.
Suburban (CT)
Long Distance Train (LD)
High Speed ​​Train (HST)
Airport Rail Link (ARL)
All vehicles in the route will park Don Muang. Unlike other stations. Only suburban train will be parked. (Except Rangsit Station). Suburban train Long distance trains at this station)

Location. It is in the parking lot. (Buildings in new country buildings) and old country buildings.

The only long-distance tram platform is 490 meters long.
Platform ARL 210 meters long
Suburban train platform is 210 meters long.
The high-speed train station is about 420 meters long.
The roof of this station is not the same.

Don Mueang has 3 floors (excluding ground level).

Class 1 ticketing class has 3 separate Paid Area for each type of car.
Tier 2 Long Distance Train Platform and ARL Car Platform
3rd Floor Suburban Subway Platform And high-speed rail platforms.

Currently under construction in the Red Line Station. (Suburban train and long-distance high speed train)

When watching the station size Don Mueang Station Central Station Bang Sue ever. The length is shorter than the central station Bang Sue only 110 meters and longer than the terminal of Suvarnabhumi Airport.











Long line depot ARL / HST (note the roof is longer)


Length of Don Muang station compared to Bang Sue station.




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The largest station in ASEAN By the length of the building, central station Bang Sue, about two blocks Baiyoke Tower.



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For this project Strategic importance in linking ASEAN and the People's Republic of China.
It is part of the One Belt One Road (OBOR) strategy, which will support the transport and logistics strategy.
The Northeast (ECEC) announced that it is one of the rail links between Kunming - Vientiane - Bangkok - Kuala Lumpur - Singapore.

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Old November 17th, 2017, 05:06 PM   #750
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Even though those local people of Ranong and Chumporn strongly support this Chumporn - Ranong railway project, there is a serious concern on the line that pass Mangrove forest and well as the line that pass schools, temples along with flood drainage since the Southern region have perennial flash flood so the railway line should not have any flood flow obstruction - need further public hearing before submitting the final results to the cabinet along with EIA clearance
https://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/609918

During the seminar on Thailand - Japan Railway Partnership for Connectivity Success Sharing Advanced SHINKANSEN Technologies & Area development, there are serious talks about Thai - Japan railways in the following manners after the detailed study in English has been submitted - need another 3 months for Thai translation to be submitted to the cabinet in Early 2018

Plan for Thai - Japan High Speed train using Shinkansen technology with a price tag for the first phase (Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke - 380 km) at 276,235 Million Baht - Thai - and Japanese Government must make a full commitment on this project due to the high price tag - not to mention about the plan for land development around Bangsue Central - However, even the first phase of Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke has to be split into 2 subsections in the following manner

1. Bangsue Central - Ayutthaya with intermediate station at Donmueang - construction started in 2019 and done in 2021 by the demands from those Japanese investors who want to connect to Ayutthaya to take care of their investment
2. Ayutthaya - Phitsanuloke with intermediate stations at Lopburi, Nakhon Sawan - Phichit seems to be omitted

30 year maintenance contract due to the sophistication of Shinkansen system is in need
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/781549
https://www.prachachat.net/property/news-72987
http://www.naewna.com/business/303646
http://www.innnews.co.th/shownews/show?newscode=823545
https://mgronline.com/business/detail/9600000116045
https://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/610513


Hope to get EIA settlement on Dong Phraya Yen section so as to start Thai - China railway in December 2017 and now Thai government starting to talk with Lao government on the issue of connecting with Lao - China railway with the distance of 427 km before connecting with Kunming - Mohan railway with the distance of 508 km even though the actual construction would be 2018
http://www.naewna.com/business/303402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RB05-UQRP8
https://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/610347
https://www.khaosod.co.th/economics/news_634976

Heavy criticism toward Thai government for delaying both Thai - Japan railway and Thai - China railway due to the endless disputes and conflicts of interests - still EIA dispute on Dong Phraya Yen section despite of the attempt to speed up
https://mgronline.com/uptodate/detail/9600000115546
https://mgronline.com/daily/detail/9600000116084
http://www.thaipost.net/?q=node/38195
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Old November 18th, 2017, 10:15 PM   #751
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Information from Thailand – Japan Railway Partnership for Connectivity Success Sharing Advanced SHINKANSEN Technologies & Area development - with the following information to bew considered
From Bangsue Central
to Donmueang - 13 + 715 km - 6 minutes
to Ayutthaya - 63+344 km - 25 minutes
to Lopburi - 115 + 533 km - 44 minutes
to Nakhon Sawan - 237 + 448 km - 1 hour + 14 minutes
to Phichit 338+528 km - 1 hour and 43 minutes
to Phitsanuloke - 380+035 km - 1 hour and 58 minutes
to Sukhothai - 434 + 954 km - 2 hours and 15 minutes
to Si Satchanalai - 487 + 738 km - 2 hours and 31 minutes
to Lampang - 587+873 km - 2 hours and 58 minutes
to Lamphun - 650 + 386 km - 3 hours and 17 minutes
to Chinag Mai - 672 + 848 km - 3 hour and 27 minutes

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Old November 25th, 2017, 03:49 PM   #752
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Thai - Japan High Speed train from Bangsue Central to Chiang Mai with the distance of 673 km with the first phase from Bangsue central to Phitsanuloke with the distance of 380 km and a price tag of 276,225 Million Baht which is likely to be construct in 3 phases for the section to Phitsanuloke after EIA Clearance

1. Bangsue Central - Ayutthaya - constrution started in 2019 and opened in 2021-22
2. Ayuutthaya - Lopburi
3. Lopburi - Phitsanuloke

It will take 7 years to reach Phitsanuloke (Year 2026) though - before making the full commitment on the whole route to Chiang Mai with 490 billion Baht investment
http://www.thansettakij.com/content/232812

Japanese vs Chinese on High Speed train War in Thailand

Thai - Japan High Speed train from Bangsue Central to Chiang Mai with the distance of 673 km with the first phase from Bangsue central to Phitsanuloke with the distance of 380 km and a price tag of 276,225 Million Baht which is likely to be construct in 3 phases for the section to Phitsanuloke after EIA Clearance

1. Bangsue Central - Ayutthaya - constrution started in 2019 and opened in 2021
2. Ayuutthaya - Lopburi
3. Lopburi - Phitsanuloke

It will take 7 years to reach Phitsanuloke (Year 2026) though

The first phase hoped to get started in Mid December 2017 as the way to inaugurate the first phase of 3.5 km from Pan Asoke - Klang Dong with the distance of 3.5 km and 425 million Baht investment -

Next on the line will be Pak Chong - Klong Khananjit with the distance of 11 km, Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima with the distance of 119.5 km and Bangsue Central - Kaeng Khoi with the distance of 119.5 km - the plan will be delivered in the next 6 months - with the payment for consultant on design of 1706 million Baht and consultant on construction at 3500 million Baht - while the Rolling stocks and system will be up to China only after SRT and China Railway have concluded the way to run the traffic and the transfer of traffic control

Thai - China Highspeed train is on Bangsue Central - Nakhon Ratchasima High speed train route with the distance of 252.5 km with the investment of 179,412 Million Baht -

https://www.prachachat.net/property/news-76979
https://today.line.me/TH/pc/article/...source=ttshare

During the seminar on Thailand - Japan Railway Partnership for Connectivity Success Sharing Advanced SHINKANSEN Technologies & Area development, there are serious talks about Thai - Japan railways in the following manners after the detailed study in English has been submitted - need another 3 months for Thai translation to be submitted to the cabinet in Early 2018

Plan for Thai - Japan High Speed train using Shinkansen technology with a price tag for the first phase (Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke - 380 km) at 276,235 Million Baht - Thai - and Japanese Government must make a full commitment on this project due to the high price tag - not to mention about the plan for land development around Bangsue Central - However, even the first phase of Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke has to be split into 2 subsections in the following manner

1. Bangsue Central - Ayutthaya with intermediate station at Donmueang - construction started in 2019 and done in 2021 by the demands from those Japanese investors who want to connect to Ayutthaya to take care of their investment
2. Ayutthaya - Phitsanuloke with intermediate stations at Lopburi, Nakhon Sawan - Phichit seems to be omitted

30 year maintenance contract due to the sophistication of Shinkansen system is in need
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/781549
https://www.prachachat.net/property/news-72987
http://www.naewna.com/business/303646
http://www.innnews.co.th/shownews/show?newscode=823545
https://mgronline.com/business/detail/9600000116045
https://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/610513
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/781549

Hope to get EIA settlement on Dong Phraya Yen section so as to start Thai - China railway in December 2017 and now Thai government starting to talk with Lao government on the issue of connecting with Lao - China railway with the distance of 427 km before connecting with Kunming - Mohan railway with the distance of 508 km even though the actual construction would be 2018 - let's see the discussion result on 24 Nov 2017 though
http://www.naewna.com/business/303402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RB05-UQRP8
https://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/610347
https://m.posttoday.com/biz/gov/525551
https://www.khaosod.co.th/economics/news_634976
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MoT telling SRT to negotiate for 1400 km High Speed train from Bangsue Central to Bandar Malaya (about 980 km on Thai side and 420 km on Malaysian side) - as both Chinese government and Japanese government are offering the deal to study in such a project and Thai government prefer the plan of expanding Southern section of High Speed train from Hua Hin to Padang besar since Thai government is going to make a full commitment on Bangsue Central - Hua Hin route first.

Furthermore, the preferred route is to follow the SRT's right of the land since the Idea of the new line other than the extension from Hua Hin to Padang besar have high price tag of land acquisition so it is unlikely to follow

The Minimum speed for this High Speed train is 250 kph
https://www.dailynews.co.th/economic/538422
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Staring the first phase of Thai - China Railway with a distance of 3.5 km on 21 December 2017 - while the other 3 sections will be created as 14 contracts with total distance of 249 km in 2018 while the issue on signal and maintenance will be resolved in March 2018
https://www.prachachat.net/property/news-77711
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Staring the first phase of Thai - China Railway with a distance of 3.5 km on 21 December 2017 - while the other 3 sections will be created as 14 contracts with total distance of 249 km in 2018 while the issue on signal and maintenance will be resolved in March 2018
https://www.prachachat.net/property/news-77711
EIA clearance for Thai - China railway with the total distance of 252.5 km and a price tag of 179,412.21 Million Baht done - ready for the first 3.5 km section of earthwork from Klang Dong to Pang Asok with a price tag of 425 million Baht which is to be done by Highway Dept within 6 months (Mid 2018)- before the next sections with the total distances of 249 km, total contracts of 14 contracts at 8,000 - 10,000 Million Baht per contract as the way to allow Thai contractors to participate in all the contracts to handle the access roads, tunnels, and the construction of electric railway routes along with the construction cost of 122,593.92 million Baht including:

Section 2: Pak Chong - Klong Khanant Jit (11km)
Section 3: Kaeng Khoi - Nakhon Ratchasima (119.5 km)
Section 4: Bangsue Central - Kaeng Khoi (119.5 km)

Thai government will get contractors to handle 14 contracts by the end of 2018 and it will take 4 years to get it done so as to start the service in 2021

MoT telling SRT that they have to tell contractors who are going to handle the construction of Thai - China Railway that they have to erect the barriers to prevent cement dust from spread around urban areas as well as Dong Phraya Yen forest - not to mention about the barriers to prevent elephants and other wildlife around Dong Phraya Yen from wrecking havoc around Dong Phraya Yen forest

Next on the line is the demolishing and land exappropriation at 13,069 Million Baht - with 212 million Baht for the actual land exappropriation since most of the section has been constructed on the existing Railway land - with the absolute need for land exappropriation at the sharp curves and the station areas on 2185 rai of land

the most serious section for demolition is 40 km gas pipelines from Rangsit to Ban Phachi with a focus on Klong 1 - Klong Phutsa section with total distance of 40 km - and rebuild the new gas pipelines at 13 meter further from existing pipeline - PTT is to pay for this gas pipeline removal and erection


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For the airport link to connect 3 airports with a price tag of 296,421 Million Baht, it has been found that the EIA must be separated into 2 phases
Phase 1: Donmueng - U-Tapao - 220 km
Phase 2: U-Tapao - Rayong - 40 km

This is due to the EIA issues when the line pass through industrial estates arond Map Taphut to Rayong even though the new section beyond Map Taphut is to follow Highway 363 and Highway 36.
Hope that the contract will be signed in August 2018 so as to start the service in 2023

This airport link extension requires major development around the following stations as an incentive for private sector participations :
1 Makkasan Central on 140 rai of land along with Chachoengsao station which is 1.5 km North of existing Chachoengsao Junction while it is closed to Highway 304,
2 Pataya station
3 Rayong station

Suvannabhum to U-Tapao is 300 Baht while Donmueang to U-Tapao is 500 Baht - a little bit too much?
https://www.prachachat.net/property/news-83144
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Japan says Thai bullet train to cost nearly $13bn

https://next.asia.nikkei.com/Politic...st-nearly-13bn

Japan says Thai bullet train to cost nearly $13bn

Economic benefits may not outweigh financial burden for Bangkok

Hiroshi Kotani, Nikkei Staff Writer
December 15, 2017 4:51am JST

BANGKOK -- Japan estimates that construction of a shinkansen-style bullet train would cost the Thai government 420 billion baht ($12.9 billion), a price Bangkok may not be willing to pay.

Japan's State Minister of Transport Takao Makino handed a report to Thai Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith on Thursday for a 670km bullet train running from Bangkok to Chiang Mai, estimating the project's profitability and economic impact on surrounding areas.

The Thai government will review the proposal and aims to convene a meeting to discuss the plan in about three months, Arkhom said.

Should the Thai government move forward with the proposal, work would occur simultaneously with another Japanese bullet train project in western India. Construction would begin in 2019 with the first 380km of track from Bangkok to Phitsanulok scheduled to open in 2025.

The plan calls for 12 stations between the Bangkok and Chiang Mai terminals. The whole trip would take about three and a half hours with top speeds reaching 300kph. The entire line would be slightly shorter than the Tokyo-Aomori shinkansen through northeastern Japan.

The largest issue is whether Bangkok would be willing to pay for the project. Tokyo has offered support, including low-interest development assistance loans, but some in Thailand argue that the financial burden is too heavy for the country's wallet.

Riding the entire line from end to end would cost some 1,200 baht, said Arkhom. The figure reflects domestic price levels and a desire to compete with low-cost airlines. This is far cheaper than Japan's shinkansen, which could impact the operating company's profitability. Thai authorities' assessment of Tokyo's demand projections will also come into play.
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Japan says Thai bullet train to cost nearly $13bn

Economic benefits may not outweigh financial burden for Bangkok

Hiroshi Kotani, Nikkei Staff Writer
December 15, 2017 4:51am JST

BANGKOK -- Japan estimates that construction of a shinkansen-style bullet train would cost the Thai government 420 billion baht ($12.9 billion), a price Bangkok may not be willing to pay.

Japan's State Minister of Transport Takao Makino handed a report to Thai Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith on Thursday for a 670km bullet train running from Bangkok to Chiang Mai, estimating the project's profitability and economic impact on surrounding areas.

The Thai government will review the proposal and aims to convene a meeting to discuss the plan in about three months, Arkhom said.

Should the Thai government move forward with the proposal, work would occur simultaneously with another Japanese bullet train project in western India. Construction would begin in 2019 with the first 380km of track from Bangkok to Phitsanulok scheduled to open in 2025.

The plan calls for 12 stations between the Bangkok and Chiang Mai terminals. The whole trip would take about three and a half hours with top speeds reaching 300kph. The entire line would be slightly shorter than the Tokyo-Aomori shinkansen through northeastern Japan.

The largest issue is whether Bangkok would be willing to pay for the project. Tokyo has offered support, including low-interest development assistance loans, but some in Thailand argue that the financial burden is too heavy for the country's wallet.

Riding the entire line from end to end would cost some 1,200 baht, said Arkhom. The figure reflects domestic price levels and a desire to compete with low-cost airlines. This is far cheaper than Japan's shinkansen, which could impact the operating company's profitability. Thai authorities' assessment of Tokyo's demand projections will also come into play.
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Speeding up Thai - Japan High Speed train with a total price tag of 420 billion Baht. - Just section to Phitsanuloke alone has a distance of 380 km at 280 billion Baht
Going to bid for the contractors to deal with Bangsue Central to Phitsanuloke in 2019 since the section has passed EIA - but need to get cabinet approval for the project handling
A ticket from Bangsue central to Phitsanuloke is 650 Baht while ticket from Bangsue Central to Chiang Mai (673 km) at 1089 Baht - using the tikcet rate of 80 + 1.5 x distance in km
Going to work on Bangsue Central - Ayutthaya first before heading to Lopburi at Pa Wai, Nakhon Sawan and Phitsanuloke respectively - Phichit (station between Nakhon Sawan and Phitsanuloke)
will be added in Phase 2 when it has been extended to Chiang Mai via Sukhothai
http://www.thaipost.net/?q=node/39366
http://www.transportjournalnews.com/transport-50/
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Going to deal with staggering structure on the 15 km section from Wat Samian Naree all the way to rangsit and then land exappropriation from Rangsit all the way to Ban Phachi (around 60 km) to accommodate both Thai - China Railway and Thai - Japan railway
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