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Old August 3rd, 2015, 07:06 PM   #1081
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I see that you're a Russian troll who's lying.

What difference does it make?
What source you need? No orders = no production. Yeah troll exactly.

The main difference is that Antonov becomes a simple cargo airline which operates a soviet built airplanes. And as I see you are very happy...
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Old August 3rd, 2015, 07:08 PM   #1082
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Antonov An-225 Mriya


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Old August 3rd, 2015, 09:58 PM   #1083
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I believe it's the first An-148 in LGG

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http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/jo...0aqof.jpg.html

(to give my five cents on the discussion above: I regret Antonov is shooting bullets in its own feet by changing the partnership from Russia to the Yankees : Russia bought and builded AN planes; US will never do :-( :-( ....... a real pity, only because of bloody politics )
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Old August 4th, 2015, 05:41 PM   #1084
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Antonov profits in 2015 is uncertain, they lost billions of contracts with Russia but they are being replaced with contracts with other countries.
I think profits will go down in 2o15 but will start rising by 2016.
Which other countries, who in the past 12 months has placed large orders for Ukranian built Antonov aircraft?
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Old August 4th, 2015, 05:53 PM   #1085
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source?

once again - I'm sure that the Antonov Company will remain profitable in the foreseeable future, in contrast to the Russian aviation enterprises.
I'm no Russian troll but he has a point without orders Antonov will not go anywhere, the new AN-178 has 10 orders, it's nearest competitor the KC-390 has 60, it's less of a risk as well.

The Russian aviation industry has more potential than Ukraine has, it has products which airlines (not just domestic carriers) are buying SSJ, and a new program with decent orders in the MC-21.

I know where I would be putting my money if I had to pick from either countries aviation industry.
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Old August 5th, 2015, 06:39 PM   #1086
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We don't need your money. I'm sure that Arab sheikhs have more money than you.
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Old August 5th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #1087
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What source you need? No orders = no production. ..
I see that you're finished writing your message. You're lying.

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On May 7, 2015, within the events, dedicated to maiden flight of the AN−178 new transport, a contract on delivery of 10 such aircraft was signed between ANTONOV Company and Silk Way Airlines LLC Azerbaijanian Company.
http://www.antonov.com/news/386?lang=en
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On May 7, 2015, within the events, dedicated to maiden flight of the AN−178 new transport, an agreement on purchase of aircraft and cooperation on joint serial production of the AN−178 in PRC was signed between ANTONOV Company and Beijing A−Star Science & Technology Company, a Chinese company.
Commenting upon the signed document, Mr. Wang Hongliang, Director General of Beijing A−Star Science & Technology Company, noted: “We think that the AN−178 is a very good aircraft and it has big perspectives at the Chinese market. We are going to purchase two aircraft, and then to organize production of the AN−178 in China”.
http://www.antonov.com/news/387?lang=en
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Now let’s discuss the contract on delivery of An-158 aircraft to Cuba. The agreement on delivery of 10 aircraft of the type with an option for another 10 ones was signed by IFC and Antonov Company in 2011 at Le Bourget airshow.
http://www.ruaviation.com/docs/5/2013/5/15/68/print/
/To date, 6 aircraft delivered/
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An agreement on joint production of An-132 with Saudi Arabia. Our technologies + Arab money = good prospects
/production plan: 150 aircraft of the An-132/.

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“ANTONOV will construct twenty five airplanes annually”, – Mykhaylo Gvozdov
In the nearest future, ANTONOV plans to reach the saling of 25 new airplanes annually. Mykhaylo Gvozdov, Acting President of ANTONOV Company, said about this in interview to “Golos Ukrainy” (“Voice of Ukraine”) newspaper.
“Renewal of the enterprise’s production facilities and change of methods of analyzes and forecast of the world aviation market will provide construction of 25 airplanes a year”, – assured head of the enterprise.
According to Mykhaylo Gvozdov, list of the enterprise’s the primary tasks includes expansion of the airplanes production, arrange of their sales, entrance into the new markets and provision of the ANTONOV Aircraft operation worldwide. These are the first steps towards fulfillment of the task given by President of Ukraine to assign work to this large aviation enterprise and to bring it to the new world level.
“We have a high potential. The developed Design Bureau is ready to work. ANTONOV’s team is powerful 13−thousand collective, high−skilled specialists, who can realize the most difficult tasks, produce the hi−technical production”, – added the enterprise’s head.
Let’s remind, that recently ANTONOV was included into UKROBORONPROM Concern. Mykhaylo Gvozdov commissioned to provide the enterprise’s effective work and to return the aircraft industry of Ukraine to the leading world positions.
ANTONOV Company press service, July 17, 2015
http://www.antonov.com/news/406?lang=en

Russian troll vs President of ANTONOV Company

Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets!
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Old August 5th, 2015, 07:10 PM   #1088
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ANTONOV has implemented a modern product lifecycle management for the new aircraft development

ANTONOV Company has implemented a modern product lifecycle management (PLM) system from Siemens PLM Software for the enterprise’s production process. It is based on use of technology “without drawing” on the basis of
3D−models.

“Use of modern digital technologies during creation and after sale support of such difficult technical objects as an aircraft, − is a requirement of time, an obligatory condition for an enterprise successful integration into the world aircraft industry. Our specialists developed a corresponding normative and methodological base of electronic projects. Data bases of electronic models of standard, unified units, vendor items (all in all about 300 thousand) and used materials were formed. For three years we have been working with Siemens in this direction and we are ready to continue our cooperation”, − notes Mykhaylo Gvozdov, the head of enterprise.

This technology was firstly and in full volume used at ANTONOV while designing and constructing the AN−178 prototype. It will let reduce costs on the program realization, significantly reduce terms and improve quality of both certain parts and the aircraft in a whole manufacture. Full integration of engineering processes at successive stages of lifecycle promote reduction of a product prime cost and terms of its development. Besides, the system will let improve control of production processes, accuracy of expected results’ forecast of works and meet demands of customers and partners from more than 200 companies from 15 countries worldwide.

More than 1000 automated work places were organized at ANTONOV Company for implementation of technologies “without drawing”. Owing to well co−ordinated work of a team composed of ANTONOV and Siemens specialists implementation of main technical solutions have been provided, more than 1500 specialists of a parent enterprise have been trained. At present, specialists of ANTONOV Serial plant subsidiary are being trained.

Today technologies “without drawing” are implemented not only in the AN−178, but also in programmes of the AN−132, AN−188 new transport and in UAVs.

ANTONOV Company press service, July 31, 2015
http://www.antonov.com/news/408?lang=en
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Old August 5th, 2015, 08:00 PM   #1089
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I see that you're finished writing your message. You're lying.

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Russian troll vs President of ANTONOV Company

Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets!
First of all, your behavior is rude and offensive.

An-178 is another airplane. And I repeat again: AN-148/158 have no orders. Cubana's contract was financed by Russia and now cooperation is collapsed by ukrainian side. AN-148/158 production line is stopped.

The one and only planned contract is 10 AN-178 for Silk ways. The main problem is that AN-178 is not certified airplane when aircraft certification takes a lot of time and even many years. Also engines are not ready for production. Even approximate dates of delivery are unknown.

Concerning 25 airplanes annually - just an ordinary "peremoga"...

Concerning AN-132. The airplane is not even shown yet, maybe the first flight will be in 2017/2018. The full production line is going to be built abroad and Ukraine will transfer all intellectual, technology and design property rights to another country...
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Old August 6th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #1090
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Old August 6th, 2015, 07:01 PM   #1091
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AN-148/158 production line is stopped.
You're lying again.
once again - source?

In last words of the President of Antonov Company is more truth than in the words of Russian troll.

I'll be grateful to you if you stop writing in the thread of Ukrainian aviation company.
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Old August 6th, 2015, 07:02 PM   #1092
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Old August 6th, 2015, 09:36 PM   #1093
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We don't need your money. I'm sure that Arab sheikhs have more money than you.
I wouldn't be so sure of that, a decent order from a Western Airline would be worth more to them than selling the design and a production line to Saudi Arabia.

How much money will Antonov make out of this deal. Compared to Antonov’s own AN-32 the Taqnia/KACST AN-132 will feature Pratt & Whitney Canada aircraft engines, a Honeywell navigation suite and several other Western made avionics and components.

I hope Antonov do succeed but since there biggest customer is no longer there biggest customer, there are almost no domestic customers and there biggest customer was also a major supplier of components I wouldn't bet on them long term. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old August 8th, 2015, 05:30 PM   #1095
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Old August 12th, 2015, 07:03 PM   #1096
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All I see is very nice Soviet and Russian-Ukrainian planes. I'm afraid if nothing changes politically, Antonov is doomed.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 08:09 PM   #1097
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All I see is very nice Soviet and Russian-Ukrainian planes. I'm afraid if nothing changes politically, Antonov is doomed.
it's my fear too
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Old August 12th, 2015, 08:19 PM   #1098
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Russian-Ukrainian planes.
a good joke. Antonov Company is a 100% Ukrainian state-owned enterprise. Russia had no role in the design of the latest Antonov aircraft.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 10:02 PM   #1099
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a good joke. Antonov Company is a 100% Ukrainian state-owned enterprise. Russia had no role in the design of the latest Antonov aircraft.
exactly because of what you write, I fear for the future ! They "ejected" their ONLY trustable partner
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It's a only a matter of time before cash-strapped Antonov is bought up by our UAC.
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