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Old March 29th, 2013, 07:48 PM   #1
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König-Johann-Straße

The König-Johann-Straße lay to the east of the original Wilsdruffer-Straße and led as its extension to the Altmarkt and Pirnaischen-Platz. It was created in 1886 and 1888, designed by Oswald Haenel as a completely new road breakthrough to create a through downtown all east-west road link. Here, the Badergasse was overbuilt. The Badergasse was a narrow dead-end street. It led from the Old Market and the Kleinen Frohngasse and was named after the Ratsbaderei. For establishment of the King-Johann-Straße, 46 houses were demolished at the end of Badergasse, including the Palais Brühl in the adjacent Schießgasse. Ensure business houses were built from the early days. The project provoked criticism, critics described the style as "Fidgety Zippel-style". The only remaining historic buildings, the villa was at the eastern end of the street. In 1919, it was renamed Johann-Straße. The bombing of Dresden in February 1945 destroyed the road and its adjacent buildings that were not apart of the Landhaus rebuilt.

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In my opinion, this is an important event in the development of Dresden-Altstadt, and is frequently ignored. I have collected some images and done some research, which I will share. I hope that this inspires some discussion!
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Old March 29th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #2
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Prior to the Project

View from the Kruezkirche:



View from Altmarkt to the east:



Scenes of the soon-to-be demolished area:
Palais Bruhl:






(Images from personal collection)
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Old March 29th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #3
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OK, why aren't my ImageShack links showing up? help!
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Old March 29th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #4
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You have to insert the direct link to the picture, not to the page where the picture is, the difference:

Where the picture is http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...0319at116.png/

Direct link http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/455...30319at116.png

I fixed the links for you but please don't forget to share the source, you can read more about it here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1593950
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Old March 29th, 2013, 08:18 PM   #5
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Maps of the area affected:

Prior to inception of project:



The plan, blue areas = new construction:


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Map of the completed area:


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Old March 29th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #6
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Aerial Views of the Completed Project


Source: DFD


Source: DFD


Notice the new construction in the lower part of this image, from the 1930s. Compare with the preceding image; large areas of old structures were demolished:

Source: DFD
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Old March 30th, 2013, 02:27 AM   #7
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It was one of Dresden's most impressive streets. Unfortunately gone forever.
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Are there plans to rebuild any of it?

Is that area near the Kreuzkirche? I like that church very much - although it is not as spectacular as the Frauenkirche or the Hofkirche?
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No plans...

It's very close to the Kreuzkirche, as can be seen on the last map posted by SonOfThomp.

The Kreuzkirche used to be very nice before the war, its interior stuccowork was stunning. Unfortunately not rebuilt after the war.
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The situation is very difficult. As you can see here the reconstructed buildings and structures of the Neumarkt does not harmonize with the buildings of the Wilsdruffer Straße.
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No plans...

It's very close to the Kreuzkirche, as can be seen on the last map posted by SonOfThomp.

The Kreuzkirche used to be very nice before the war, its interior stuccowork was stunning. Unfortunately not rebuilt after the war.
I have visited it and I spent some time there - I like it, although it is quite humble inside.
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The situation is very difficult. As you can see here the reconstructed buildings and structures of the Neumarkt does not harmonize with the buildings of the Wilsdruffer Straße.
Very nice model.

What is that large modern building on the left on the Wilsdruffer Straße?

It is not very attractive.
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This is the Kulturpalast. After a dispute with the architect, the city is free the change the interior during the planned renovation. Nevertheless it is not clear where the money should came from. So at the moment it is not used for concerts.
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When the street was replanned and rebuilt, the style was mostly Wilhelmine and Grunderzeit which for the latter 19th century period was spectacular. What is from a timeline standpoint most tragic, those buildings lasted for less time than they have now been gone.
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The situation is very difficult. As you can see here the reconstructed buildings and structures of the Neumarkt does not harmonize with the buildings of the Wilsdruffer Straße.
I have a solution for THAT!
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Views from the Rathausturm and Kruezkirche

From Rathaus:
Due north:




To the Northeast:




From Kruezkirche:
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From Rathaus:
To the Northeast:


The center building with spires is the Kaiser Palast hotel in Pirnaischer Platz. The police headquarters is just to the left out of frame. The row of trees making a boulevard was a late 19th century addition to add greenery amongst the heavyily built up Neumarkt and Altmarkt areas. Looking northeast from the Kreuzkirche was the most devasting view in February 1945.
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Intersection with Moritz-Straße

Southwest Corner (Nr. 8):



View West, Nr. 19 Center, Moritz-Straße Nr. 11 on Right:


View West, Nr. 8 on Left, Nr. 19 Right.



View East, Moritz-Straße Nr. 11 on Left, Moritz-Straße Nr. 12 on Right:


View North from Moritz-Straße and Schiess-Gasse:
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What's occupying the street today?
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What's occupying the street today?
the street is wider and sterile, lined with characterless concrete structures that look like typical government housing one can see anywhere across the globe. The exception is the south side near Altmarkt were two row buildings have decent appearance.
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