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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:27 AM   #41
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Second link does not show, I am afraid.

As far as I remember they got rid off older A4 there, didn't they?
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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:48 AM   #42
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Second link does not show, I am afraid.

As far as I remember they got rid off older A4 there, didn't they?
The western part of the older A4 serves as the local Bundestrasse to Eisenach. They "only" got rid off the eastern part of the motorway in Hoerselgebirge section.....(so called renaturalisation of the landscape....)


It should be available now. The all savings were not so fast


Now, I could add some pictures (summer 2011) from quite known old Brenner road between Matrei and Sterzing/Vipiteno (national roads No.183 and SS12):

https://picasaweb.google.com/1065082...IbDyrvAlKjxogE
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Old April 30th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #43
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Trunk road in Bulgaria:
http://goo.gl/maps/m3asw

Build in 1985 and used as a main route till 1999, before the bridges on A2 in the background to be completed.
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Old April 30th, 2013, 09:19 PM   #44
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The western part of the older A4 serves as the local Bundestrasse to Eisenach. They "only" got rid off the eastern part of the motorway in Hoerselgebirge section.....(so called renaturalisation of the landscape....)


It should be available now. The all savings were not so fast


Now, I could add some pictures (summer 2011) from quite known old Brenner road between Matrei and Sterzing/Vipiteno (national roads No.183 and SS12):

https://picasaweb.google.com/1065082...IbDyrvAlKjxogE
If you want you can paste the pictures directly to the post. They are worth doing so.

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Old May 1st, 2013, 02:47 PM   #45
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www.riksvei.no

is an interesting site (only in Norwegian, unfortunately) dedicated to the old rv 1, i.e. the Oslo-Svinesund road before the introduction of E numbers. With that, the entire road numbering scheme was changed as well.

There are some interesting films on the site, lots of pictures and anecdotes.
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Old May 1st, 2013, 07:09 PM   #46
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If you want you can paste the pictures directly to the post. They are worth doing so.
o.k, it is certainly possible:

old Brenner road between Matrei in Tirol and the AT/IT border in Brenner











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If you want you can paste the pictures directly to the post. They are worth doing so.
....and the Italian section of the old Brenner road (final section of the SS12) between Brenner and Sterzing/Vipiteno:







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Old road no. 1 between Cieszyn - Bielsko-Biała. The new expressway S1 (E75/E462) you can see on the right side of the picture



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and to be compared the evening pictures from 2006, just before S1 opening....:





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Former trunk road E59 (B303) in Austria - section in Jetzelsdorf behind the CZ border. Nowadays there is new bypass road (future S3/B303) and the old road holds only its local traffic importance...

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Czech Republic: the old road (former road No.46) between Vyskov and Prostejov (route: Brno-Olomouc). Nowadays it is only a local road coming very parallel with the motorway R46

pictures/2007:















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Czech Republic: the old road No.47 in the section Brno - juction Holubice (No.50/E50 route). Nowadays, it is the road No.430.

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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:09 PM   #52
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Some in my region:

Old N722 Hasselt-Sint-Truiden became grid locked in the 70ties.
They build the N80 Hasselt-Sint-truiden back then wich now forms a parralell 2x2 expressway with speed limit 120km/h

Old N75 Hasselt-Genk also became gridlocked in the 70ties
Now most traffic to Genk travels via 2x2 N702 expressway, speed limit 90/120km/h

The old N715 was replaced by the new N74
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:55 PM   #53
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Czech Republic: the old road No.47 (Part II) in the section junction Holubice (No.50/E50 route) - Vyskov. Nowadays, it is the regional road No.430.

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Old May 3rd, 2013, 11:17 PM   #54
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[QUOTE=piotr71;102014330]Nice one I know this road very well and drove there many times until it was declassified. And, as far as I can remember, It was always really busy, even in the communist times when it was part of the European corridor E7.

The reststation "Gumna" between Cieszyn and Skoczów located between new expressway S1 and the discussed old road No.1. (pictures issued in 2008)









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Old May 7th, 2013, 03:27 AM   #55
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N-III in Contreras (replaced by a new N-III and then by A-3)



Here are some pictures about Spanish N-III (and A-3) in Contreras. My engineering school made a study some years ago about this pass, and I have read and searched about it since I saw it.

I have added all pictures of it I had taken in some years, so it would be better to look at them slowly.

It is situated between provinces of Cuenca and Valencia, divided by Cabriel River (formerly it was Cuenca province in both sides) and more recently by Contreras dam.

First road built, then just called Highway Madrid-Valencia via Las Cabrillas, was designed in this stretch (Cabrillas Pass) by Lucio del Valle (as Puerta del Sol in Madrid or water supply to Madrid too), between 1840 and 1850.
In last times, this N-III has been regionalized, to Valencian Land and Castilla-La Mancha.


























































Here you can see some information that my teacher shows in a blog about former trunk roads and highways (in Spanish): http://carreterashistoricas.blogspot...mitad-del.html

And a book by another teacher of mine: http://www.cehopu.cedex.es/es/un_libro.php?ID_pub=108

In 1969, with the construction of Contreras dam, N-III (European E-101 by then) trunk highway then started to use two tunnels and the top of the new dam, leaving such dangerous curves alone. I think that at least the Valencian half of this stretch has been also regionalized.


































Here you can see information of a blogger devoted to this road, in Spanish too: http://nacional3rutahistorica.blogsp...a-n-iii-2.html
http://route-1963.blogspot.com.es/20...ca-asi-va.html


Construction of the stretch of motorway in this area was the subject of long discussions between national Ministry of Public Works and regional government of Castile-La Mancha (sometimes also backed from that of Valencia Land, sometimes not), as the motorway was to cross Cabriel Narrows. Finally, with the change of sign of the national government, the regional government (although of different political sign), got their desires fulfilled.

http://hemeroteca.abc.es/nav/Navigat...08/31/055.html

http://hemeroteca.abc.es/nav/Navigat...09/05/058.html

http://elpais.com/diario/1994/09/07/...23_850215.html
http://elpais.com/diario/1994/12/31/...16_850215.html

http://hemeroteca.abc.es/nav/Navigat...10/18/057.html

http://elpais.com/diario/1996/06/13/...03_850215.html


The A-3 (European E-901) motorway was finally built over the Contreras reservoir, near to both N-IIIs, a more expensive option, but more nature-friendly too, entering in full operation in year 2002. Some years later, the high-speed rail line from Madrid to Valencia was also built over that reservoir. I just think this is a beautiful place to see while driving.























You can also find some abandoned and regionalized stretches of N-III near Alarcón dam in Jścar River, as the construction of the dam (1950-1970) required the construction of a new road south of it. Usable parts of the old stretch became with time CM-2103, CM-2151 and CM-2100, with N-III using from then the top of the new dam, and A-3 passing further south.


This first pic is taken from Castile-La Mancha official road map (2008):






















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